Revenge by Pakistani Pashtuns: Private war breaks out on Pak-Afghan border
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Yaar, baat karnay ki leyeh lehaz hona chayhe.
Kya app lok dunya ko dikaray ho?
Humaray kahndaan main humari asi tarbeeat toh ney hui.
Shayd main itna modern ney hun.
Magar aap sharif ban kar roh aur apnay points exchange karo.
Yeh pesha dunya ka sab se purana hain.
Har mulak main hain.
Kya app lok dunya ko dikaray ho?
Humaray kahndaan main humari asi tarbeeat toh ney hui.
Shayd main itna modern ney hun.
Magar aap sharif ban kar roh aur apnay points exchange karo.
Yeh pesha dunya ka sab se purana hain.
Har mulak main hain.
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Its been a long day and it being 7 am in Karachi... its time for me to stretch my arms, yawn and go to sleep. This is the time when we need @Armstrong to diffuse some tension... sorry I never meant to tell you to get off the thread.
@RazPaK no one is supporting this guys comments... he shouldn't have written that. Both Safriz and me condemned it. But the thing is are we going to limit discussion because the topic is taboo?... its a decision for the wider PDF community, the admins, think tanks, mods and everyone else to make. I am rebellious and have immense difficulty submitting to authority but I respect rules now... those made by Pakistanis anyway.
My suggestion is... with a total population of 20,000 minors and more than 100,000 adults involved in this business (prostitution)... its not something that we should be ignoring as a topic of discussion. Best however if it does not contain discussion of specifics and intricate details. Also it does not become a contest... like a comparison between Karachi and Lahore red light districts.
There are pitfalls but then again... we are a forum... and my purpose here is not even debate... but to find solutions to issues and change the mindset. You would notice I rarely visit. It is because I usually seek to incorporate the knowledge acquired in my debates somewhere. Currently I am accumulating information on an ethnic paper that discusses our issues. Thus more reason to debate. I think @Safriz is realizing that the topic should be open to discussion.
I am a journalist. I have learned that for a reporter ignoring a topic for whatever reason is not a great idea, neither often is filtering things. That's a different thing that today there is no place for a person who loves Pakistan so my articles almost never get published. Still hope drives us Nationalists on.
Don't fight guys. If you look at where all of this started it was a very simple statement based on the statements of a documentary director friend who knew a few things about Heera mandi which Luffy turned into a sleazy movie. This heera mandi is discussed in almost every third thread on the forum he visits (the third one where you don't have an account yet @RazPaK) and it usually includes insults to Punjabis and Pashtuns of Peshawar but his vociferous opposition here disappears for cool acquiescence there... he is like a kid. Naughty when the parents are away... very good boy when parents around.
But this is his specialization field. Exaggerating, lying... he has perfected those mendacious arts and no one can beat him in this regard. So chillax. There's nothing worse than being led to a fight by a bigot. I really have to admire the decision to promote armstrong to a position of importance... but maybe he should more rightfully be a moderator-or perhaps a new thing called-tension reliever?
That sounds ridiculous... will have to come up with a name and suggest it sometime to @WebMaster.
Sleep well. And stop fighting. @RazPaK and @Armstrong... you two really. I don't know what you saw... but you don't know this guy from the other site. For a long time even I stayed quiet on him due to son of mountains. You don't know any of them. Spend one day on that forum and you will sleep depressed for 10 days. Not a day passes without an abuse to Pakistan. He can't paint himself as a victim just because he was better than the rest. He sympathizes and supports Afghanistans position all the time. Still hasn't said a word about the 2 Afridis killed from Landi Kotal...
Just like he never said a word when Peshawar was being insulted. There is even a thread about Marwats being traitors to Pashtuns because historically they voted for Muslim League. Still his blood didn't boil over how these northerners Farsiwan supported people dare to insult lar Pashtuns.
Its been a long day and it being 7 am in Karachi... its time for me to stretch my arms, yawn and go to sleep. This is the time when we need @Armstrong to diffuse some tension... sorry I never meant to tell you to get off the thread.
@RazPaK no one is supporting this guys comments... he shouldn't have written that. Both Safriz and me condemned it. But the thing is are we going to limit discussion because the topic is taboo?... its a decision for the wider PDF community, the admins, think tanks, mods and everyone else to make. I am rebellious and have immense difficulty submitting to authority but I respect rules now... those made by Pakistanis anyway.
My suggestion is... with a total population of 20,000 minors and more than 100,000 adults involved in this business (prostitution)... its not something that we should be ignoring as a topic of discussion. Best however if it does not contain discussion of specifics and intricate details. Also it does not become a contest... like a comparison between Karachi and Lahore red light districts.
There are pitfalls but then again... we are a forum... and my purpose here is not even debate... but to find solutions to issues and change the mindset. You would notice I rarely visit. It is because I usually seek to incorporate the knowledge acquired in my debates somewhere. Currently I am accumulating information on an ethnic paper that discusses our issues. Thus more reason to debate. I think @Safriz is realizing that the topic should be open to discussion.
I am a journalist. I have learned that for a reporter ignoring a topic for whatever reason is not a great idea, neither often is filtering things. That's a different thing that today there is no place for a person who loves Pakistan so my articles almost never get published. Still hope drives us Nationalists on.
Don't fight guys. If you look at where all of this started it was a very simple statement based on the statements of a documentary director friend who knew a few things about Heera mandi which Luffy turned into a sleazy movie. This heera mandi is discussed in almost every third thread on the forum he visits (the third one where you don't have an account yet @RazPaK) and it usually includes insults to Punjabis and Pashtuns of Peshawar but his vociferous opposition here disappears for cool acquiescence there... he is like a kid. Naughty when the parents are away... very good boy when parents around.
But this is his specialization field. Exaggerating, lying... he has perfected those mendacious arts and no one can beat him in this regard. So chillax. There's nothing worse than being led to a fight by a bigot. I really have to admire the decision to promote armstrong to a position of importance... but maybe he should more rightfully be a moderator-or perhaps a new thing called-tension reliever?
That sounds ridiculous... will have to come up with a name and suggest it sometime to @WebMaster. Sleep well. And stop fighting. @RazPaK and @Armstrong... you two really. I don't know what you saw... but you don't know this guy from the other site. For a long time even I stayed quiet on him due to son of mountains. You don't know any of them. Spend one day on that forum and you will sleep depressed for 10 days. Not a day passes without an abuse to Pakistan. He can't paint himself as a victim just because he was better than the rest. He sympathizes and supports Afghanistans position all the time. Still hasn't said a word about the 2 Afridis killed from Landi Kotal...
Just like he never said a word when Peshawar was being insulted. There is even a thread about Marwats being traitors to Pashtuns because historically they voted for Muslim League. Still his blood didn't boil over how these northerners Farsiwan supported people dare to insult lar Pashtuns.
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When were they united in the way you are thinking ?
... Or possibly you missed reading how the " Khasadar force " rushed to the scene to stop it and even arrested some of the assailants 
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Its been a long day and it being 7 am in Karachi... its time for me to stretch my arms, yawn and go to sleep. This is the time when we need @Armstrong to diffuse some tension... sorry I never meant to tell you to get off the thread.
@RazPaK no one is supporting this guys comments... he shouldn't have written that. Both Safriz and me condemned it. But the thing is are we going to limit discussion because the topic is taboo?... its a decision for the wider PDF community, the admins, think tanks, mods and everyone else to make. I am rebellious and have immense difficulty submitting to authority but I respect rules now... those made by Pakistanis anyway.
My suggestion is... with a total population of 20,000 minors and more than 100,000 adults involved in this business (prostitution)... its not something that we should be ignoring as a topic of discussion. Best however if it does not contain discussion of specifics and intricate details. Also it does not become a contest... like a comparison between Karachi and Lahore red light districts.
There are pitfalls but then again... we are a forum... and my purpose here is not even debate... but to find solutions to issues and change the mindset. You would notice I rarely visit. It is because I usually seek to incorporate the knowledge acquired in my debates somewhere. Currently I am accumulating information on an ethnic paper that discusses our issues. Thus more reason to debate.
I am a journalist. I have learned that for a reporter ignoring a topic for whatever reason is not a great idea, neither often is filtering things. That's a different thing that today there is no place for a person who loves Pakistan so my articles almost never get published. Still hope drives us Nationalists on.
Don't fight guys. If you look at where all of this started it was a very simple statement based on the statements of a documentary director friend who knew a few things about Heera mandi which Luffy turned into a sleazy movie. This heera mandi is discussed in almost every third thread on the forum he visits (the third one where you don't have an account yet @RazPaK) and it usually includes insults to Punjabis and Pashtuns of Peshawar but his vociferous opposition here disappears for cool acquiescence there... he is like a kid. Naughty when the parents are away... very good boy when parents around.
But this is his specialization field. Exaggerating, lying... he has perfected those mendacious arts and no one can beat him in this regard. So chillax. There's nothing worse than being led to a fight by a bigot. I really have to admire the decision to promote armstrong to a position of importance... but maybe he should more rightfully be a moderator-or perhaps a new thing called-tension reliever?
Sleep well. And stop fighting. @RazPaK and @Armstrong... you two really. I don't know what you saw... but you don't know this guy from the other site. For a long time even I stayed quiet on him due to son of mountains. You don't know any of them. Spend one day on that forum and you will sleep depressed for 10 days. Not a day passes without an abuse to Pakistan. He can't paint himself as a victim just because he was better than the rest. He sympathizes and supports Afghanistans position all the time. Still hasn't said a word about the 2 Afridis killed from Landi Kotal...
Son of Mountains is like my brother. I can't believe he would say anything against Pakistan.
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How about we sell Sindh, Punjab and Kashmir to India since we are selling Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan to the Afghans (nation)? Whats the point of having a Pakistan where other races don't want 30 million of our citizens? How about we adopt the same attitude.
Even though I do not appreciate this " eye for an eye " attack on Afghan nationals , this makes one thing very clear ... The loyalty of Pakistani Pashtuns lies with the state of Pakistan , the people declaring Afghanistan as some promised land for " Pashtuns " can take a hike now !
Karachi belongs to all Pakistanis of belonging to each and every ethnicity , not just my race ... Lets make it very clear , we do not tolerate any freakin bull **** of Jinnahpur from traitor Altaf ... He can apply for the nationality of India if he's so against partition , nobody will give a damn !
Oh the fuckin " forbidden ! " ...
Yeah , we have more of the people they claim to be their citizens of the " promised land " 
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yes..
But its mainly a female profession so the matter if discussed will automatically direct the discussion towards women...
That does not mean we are demeaning women...
Same as discussing curb crawlers is not inclusive towards all men and hence not demeaning towards all men.
Some facts are snide and disgusting by default..Prostitution is one of them.
You do need to get your facts right.
and lets leave this thread for the discussion at hand..
If somebody wants to discuss prostitution..Open another thread...
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No man... he told me Luffy was a nice guy and everything... thats why I didn't attack Luffy as aggressively. I was very pissed about what he was doing to another member named afghanis_hehe. That is not the site. Son of mountains is a real Ghayyur Pashtun... no doubt about that. Toramana's cousin Luffy isn't.
There is pashtunsforum (Pakistani Pashtun-lar Pashtun-true Pashtun)
And pashtunforums. (Afghan-farsiwan)
One is an Afghan (nation) dominated one. The other is a campaign by Pakistani Pashtuns to fight back. You don't know anything yet yaar. E-world has become a tool for anti-Pakistani activity. PDF one of our final bastions.
Anyway don't let Luffy succeed in creating a war. You guys fight... the gratification he feels hits the roof and so does his thick head as he tries to escape his dusty little kolba with its low roof... and celebrate with admin khan (the webmaster of that forum) in his Kabul mansion with thousands of armed guards and beer and what not.
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You havent the slightest idea of the Punjab issue. It was primarily a political containment of Akalis by the Congress gone horribly wrong. As far as RSS is concerned they have a Muslim front has well called Rashtriya Muslim manch. Andd the one India narrative they provide is that India is one country with incredible diversity which is the reality..I dont understand what wrong you saw in that.
Anyway as I said your Pak comrades are already getting insecure that an Indian is replying..so let me not feed that insecurity and move away from this thread.
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It depends. I don't discuss these kinds of things in an open fashion, especially with so many eyes.
It is an important issue, magar ihteyat karnii chaiye, as it is a sensitive issue.
There is a time and place. Not here.
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2 wrongs dont make a right, but this is inevitable......
I say we just boycott ALL Afghan-owned businesses in Pakistan; dont do business with them. Dont go to their daarzis, dont buy their toys dont buy their cassettes or DVDs dont buy their anything
beating laborers is not revenge ever -- they are poor people. We should have the moral high ground here. There are PROPER ways to show these treacherous types a good lesson.
they are stabbing their own feet every time they inflict harm on Pakistan or its people
I say we just boycott ALL Afghan-owned businesses in Pakistan; dont do business with them. Dont go to their daarzis, dont buy their toys dont buy their cassettes or DVDs dont buy their anything
beating laborers is not revenge ever -- they are poor people. We should have the moral high ground here. There are PROPER ways to show these treacherous types a good lesson.
they are stabbing their own feet every time they inflict harm on Pakistan or its people
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