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Religions in China should serve Communist Party, says govt white paper

unlike buddhism.islam and christianity are totally vicious. are real threatens to chinese civilization.hope one day we chinese can do something to protect our country and civilization
 
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unlike buddhism.islam and christianity are totally vicious. are real threatens to chinese civilization.hope one day we chinese can do something to protect our country and civilization
yayayayaya and only buddhism is not? just because it's DHARMIC?
haha

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u may go masturbate to your Desi pornn now.

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im saying i agree with u that the CCP treats religion as a materialistic aspect of life- and that's because it indeed is- religion is just an artificial concept invented by the human brain.

And that's not because the CCP 'doesnt understand religion' as what u've claimed- but rather- it's simply because they understood it too well that they know the indulgence in religion is a HUGE stumbling block to societal progression.
I think that is where the disagreement comes. CCP simply claims to be an expert on some subject they spend very little time on and rely too much on hearsay to make judgement. Religion is a very deep subject that even few religious people truly understand it. Many religious masters spent decades to fully grasp its teachings. Using Buddhism as an example, or Hinduism for that matter, practitioners need to go deep in their meditation, so deep that they no longer have consciousness of their bodies. Their mind needs to be so still that there will be no idea after idea popping up uncontrollably. Then, and only then, they just get started and there is still a long journey to go. I bet no CCP member can even achieve this very first step of self control but that doesn't prevent them from proclaiming to be an expert on religions. In your own word, even claim to understand "too well".

Heck, CCP's understanding doesn't even reach the level of Schopenhauer. Kant made a philosophic breakthrough when he proved that all human understanding of reality goes through some filters, such as senses. Therefore, human beings can never truly grasp the reality itself. Schopenhauer pointed out that Kant missed one important possibility, which is that human body is the combination of both true reality and the faculty of understanding. Human being may be able to understand itself through itself, unlike science, which has to go through some external instruments. That is exactly what religions try to do. But I doubt CCP likes Schopenhauer much anyway since CCP claims the validity of Marxism via the dialectics of Hegel, who was denounced by Schopenhauer as a mere charlatan.
 
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I think that is where the disagreement comes. CCP simply claims to be an expert on some subject they spend very little time on and rely too much on hearsay to make judgement. Religion is a very deep subject that even few religious people truly understand it. Many religious masters spent decades to fully grasp its teachings. Using Buddhism as an example, or Hinduism for that matter, practitioners need to go deep in their meditation, so deep that they no longer have consciousness of their bodies. Their mind needs to be so still that there will be no idea after idea popping up uncontrollably. Then, and only then, they just get started and there is still a long journey to go. I bet no CCP member can even achieve this very first step of self control but that doesn't prevent them from proclaiming to be an expert on religions. In your own word, even claim to understand "too well".

Heck, CCP's understanding doesn't even reach the level of Schopenhauer. Kant made a philosophic breakthrough when he proved that all human understanding of reality goes through some filters, such as senses. Therefore, human beings can never truly grasp the reality itself. Schopenhauer pointed out that Kant missed one important possibility, which is that human body is the combination of both true reality and the faculty of understanding. Human being may be able to understand itself through itself, unlike science, which has to go through some external instruments. That is exactly what religions try to do. But I doubt CCP likes Schopenhauer much anyway since CCP claims the validity of Marxism via the dialectics of Hegel, who was denounced by Schopenhauer as a mere charlatan.
i said they understand too well because china has been officially:

Taoist
Buddhist

as an empire for millenia. Its people are never new to religion. To imply as such is ludicrous.

Atually, are u religious yourself? If u are, then i can see the disagreement here.
 
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We may not be best but some time after seeing this, we think that India isiheaven.
A heaven without toilet.

Hard to say. China is more or less making science as the state religion. Of course, not the science that embraces rational skepticism, open mindedness and critical thinking, but the science that authorizes elites to issue edicts and dictates.
Come on! The communist party of China is always advocating atheism. It's quite good that they can give some extent of religious freedom in China.

Religion has hindered human progress for thousands of years. If we had pursued science from the beginning, our world would have become a paradise. Indeed, the scientific revolution is the SOLE reason why most people can live over 50 years old and not starve to death. Religion is a type of "spiritual opioid", an excuse for us to not face the reality. Therefore, I agree with what the CCP is doing as CCP has become analogous to the Chinese state, which means religion is being altered to suit the needs of the republic.
Btw, from my conversations with religious people, they all seem to have decided to become religious only when they suffered setbacks and couldn't cope with them.
Nothing wrong turn religious.
 
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You Chinese are disgusting can't even accept basic , all dharmic religions are based on the similar core principles. Just like all Abrahamic religions are based on similar principles.

Lol at your 6bce scripts with hindu rig Veda of 2000bce , one of the oldest religious scripts in the world , all dharmic religions are based on this

Being composed in an early Indo-Aryanlanguage, the hymns must post-date the Indo-Iranian separation, dated to roughly 2000 BC.[68]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigveda

Ya just so happens he magically taught the same Vedic teachings

I don't even have to try

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_Hinduism

Similarities

Basic vocabularyEdit
The Buddha approved many of the terms already used in philosophical discussions of his era; however, many of these terms carry a different meaning in the Buddhist tradition. For example, in the Samaññaphala Sutta, the Buddha is depicted presenting a notion of the "three knowledges" (tevijja) – a term also used in the Vedic tradition to describe knowledge of the Vedas – as being not texts, but things that he had experienced (these are not noble truths[clarification needed]).[15] The true "three knowledges" are said to be constituted by the process of achieving enlightenment, which is what the Buddha is said to have achieved in the three watches of the night of his enlightenment.[16]

KarmaEdit
Karma (Sanskrit: कर्म from the root kṛ, "to do") is a word meaning action or activity and often implies its subsequent results (also called karma-phala, "the fruits of action"). It is commonly understood as a term to denote the entire cycle of cause and effect as described in the philosophies of a number of cosmologies, including those of Buddhism and Hinduism.

Karma is a central part of Buddhist teachings. In Buddha's teaching, karma is a direct intentional[17] result of a person's word, thought and/or action in life. In pre-Buddhist Vedic culture, karma has to do with whether or not the ritualistic actions are correctly performed. Little emphasis is placed on moral conduct in the early Vedic conception.[neutrality is disputed] In Buddhism, by contrast, a person's words, thoughts and/or actions form the basis for good and bad karma: sila (moral conduct) goes hand in hand with the development of meditation and wisdom. Buddhist teachings carry a markedly different meaning from pre-Buddhist conceptions of karma.[18]

DharmaEdit
Dharma (Sanskrit, Devanagari: धर्म or PāliDhamma, Devanagari: धम्म) means Natural Law, Reality or Duty, and with respect to its significance for spirituality and religion might be considered the Way of the Higher Truths. A Hindu appellation for Hinduism itself is Sanātana Dharma, which translates as "the eternal dharma." Similarly, Buddhadharma is an appellation for Buddhism. The general concept of dharma forms a basis for philosophies, beliefs and practices originating in India. The four main ones are Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism (Jaina Dharma), and Sikhism (Sikha Dharma), all of whom retain the centrality of dharma in their teachings. In these traditions, beings that live in harmony with dharma proceed more quickly toward, according to the tradition, Dharma Yukam, Moksha, or Nirvana (personal liberation). Dharma can refer generally to religious duty, and also mean social order, right conduct, or simply virtue.

BuddhaEdit
The term "Buddha" too has appeared in Hindu scriptures before the birth of Gautama Buddha. In the Vayu Purana, sage Dakshacalls Lord Shiva as Buddha.[19]

Similar symbolismEdit
  • Mudra: This is a symbolic hand-gesture expressing an emotion. Images of the Buddha almost always depict him performing some mudra.
  • Dharma Chakra: The Dharma Chakra, which appears on the national flag of India and the flag of the Thai royal family, is a Buddhist symbol that is used by members of both religions.
  • Rudraksha: These are beads that devotees, usually monks, use for praying.
  • Tilak: Many Hindu devotees mark their heads with a tilak, which is interpreted as a third eye. A similar mark is one of the characteristic physical characteristics of the Buddha.
  • Swastika and Sauwastika: both are sacred symbols. It can be either clockwise or counter-clockwise and both are seen in Hinduism and Buddhism. The Buddha is sometimes depicted with a sauwastika on his chest or the palms of his hands.[20]
Similar practicesEdit
MantraEdit

In Tibet, many Buddhists carve mantras into rocks as a form of devotion.
A mantra (मन्त्र) is a religious syllable or poem, typically from the Sanskrit language. Their use varies according to the school and philosophy associated with the mantra. They are primarily used as spiritual conduits, words or vibrations that instill one-pointed concentration in the devotee. Other purposes have included religious ceremonies to accumulate wealth, avoid danger, or eliminate enemies. Mantras existed in the historical Vedic religion, Zoroastrianism[21] and the Shramanic traditions, and thus they remain important in Buddhism and Jainism as well as other faiths of Indian origin such as Sikhism.

YogaEdit

practice of Yoga is intimately connected to the religious beliefs and practices of both Hinduism and Buddhism.[22] However, there are distinct variations in the usage of yoga terminology in the two religions.

In Hinduism, the term "Yoga" commonly refers to the eight limbs of yoga as defined in the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali, written some time after 100 BCE, and means "yoke", with the idea that one's individual atman, or soul, would yoke or bind with the monistic entity that underlies everything (brahman). Yoga in Hinduism also known as being 'complex', based on yoking (integrating). Yoga defines a specific process, it has an emphasis on knowledge and practice, as well as being known to be 'mature' and difficult.[23] The most basic meaning of this Sanskrit term is with technique. The technique of the different forms of yoga is what makes the practice meaningful. Yoga is not an easy or simple practice, viyoga is what is described as simple. Yoga is difficult in the fact of displaying the faith and meaning of Hinduism. Many Hindus tend to pick and choose between the five forms of yoga because of the way they live their life and how they want to practice it in the form they are most connected to.[24]

In the Vajrayana Buddhism of Tibet, however, the term "Yoga" is simply used to refer to any type of spiritual practice; from the various types of tantra (like Kriyayoga or Charyayoga) to 'Deity yoga' and 'guru yoga'. In the early translation phase of the Sutrayana and Tantrayana from India, China and other regions to Tibet, along with the practice lineages of sadhana, codified in the Nyingmapa canon, the most subtle 'conveyance' (Sanskrit: yana) is Adi Yoga(Sanskrit). A contemporary scholar with a focus on Tibetan Buddhism, Robert Thurmanwrites that Patanjali was influenced by the success of the Buddhist monastic system to formulate his own matrix for the version of thought he considered orthodox.[25]

MeditationEdit
There is a range of common terminology and common descriptions of the meditative states that are seen as the foundation of meditation practice in both Hindu Yoga and Buddhism. Many scholars have noted that the concepts of dhyana and samādhi - technical terms describing stages of meditative absorption – are common to meditative practices in both Hinduism and Buddhism. Most notable in this context is the relationship between the system of four Buddhist dhyana states (Pali: jhana) and the samprajnata samadhi states of Classical Yoga.[26] Also, many (Tibetan) Vajrayana practices of the generation stageand completion stage work with the chakras, inner energy channels (nadis) and kundalini, called tummo in Tibetan.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
As they say, History is written by the Victors.
In this case, the Buddha's teachings were written by the Murderers of the Buddha's people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gautama_Buddha

No written records about Gautama were found from his lifetime or some centuries thereafter. One Edict of Asoka, who reigned from circa 269 BCE to 232 BCE, commemorates the Emperor's pilgrimage to the Buddha's birthplace in Lumbini.

No written records of the Buddha until 400 years after the extermination of the Buddha's people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pāli_Canon
It was composed in North India and was preserved orally until it was committed to writing during the Fourth Buddhist Council in Sri Lanka in 29 BCE, approximately 454 years after the death of Gautama Buddha.

Gangas are now retroactively using Sanskrit to prove the origin of the Buddha.
What a JOKE because the Buddha didn't know how to write.

If ancestors of Gangas did not massacre the Shakyans and followed the ways of the Buddha, Gangadesh would not have turned into OPENSHITDESH today.
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Fun fact 1: Buddha is a vedic word used in hindu mantras

In other words you're a illiterate 5cent troll , do you even fuking know where guatama's kingdom was & where he preached.


Hinduism comes from the vedas the holy texts of hindus you illiterate .


You moron its adopted name, Hindu is derived from the word sindhu as in Indus river , Hinduism are people who follow Sanathana Dharma a.k.a. The teachings of rig vedas written on the banks of ganga

Even a child knows hindu was called Hindustan , What's your point? All Hindus followed the dharmic
teaching . It was only after Muslims &Christians invaded that hindus were segregated by different religions.


Ya don't tell 16th century Portuguese about it

The Christian friar Sebastiao Manrique used the term 'Hindu' in religious context in 1649.[12]

and the term Hindu appears in some texts dated between the 13th and 18th century in Sanskrit and regional languages
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu
http://www.worldhindunews.com/2014/...india-it-was-never-used-to-describe-religion/
The word Hindu was used initially to describe the people of India; it was never used to describe religion
The word Hinduism was first used by the English writers in the 19th century to describe the multiplicity of faiths of the people of India.
In Encyclopaedia Britannica it says:~ The word Hinduism was first used by the British writers in the year 1830 to describe the multiplicity of the faiths of the people of India excluding the converted Christians. (Volume -20, Reference -581)
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I suspected as much.
YOU ARE INTELECTUALLY CHALLENGED.
What STUPIDITY makes you post so many maps of HINDUSTAN to support the TERM HINDUISM being used to describe the RELIGION of the OPENSHITTERS beats me.
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i'd rather be a pig than to be a cow-worshipping peon

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Ofcourse. Why not ? That is why You guys are treated like pigs from Mao to Xi. They will run tanks on you whenever they want. You should be thanksful to PDF that you can vent your frustration here. In china , you do not have the right to raise your voice.

A heaven without toilet.


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A heaven without toilet is much better than a hell without toilet. What happened to Those 280 million people defecting in open? Does the life time dictator Xi has any plan to build toilet for them or his first priority is hanging the people to complete execution quota as always?
 
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Sorry to burst your bubble.
As they say, History is written by the Victors.
In this case, the Buddha's teachings were written by the Murderers of the Buddha's people.

Lol so the people on Indus-Ganga Plain were not Indians? Plz get cure for brain cancer, this is Buddhas kingdom where Buddhism furnished, talk about being retarded
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gautama_Buddha

No written records about Gautama were found from his lifetime or some centuries thereafter. One Edict of Asoka, who reigned from circa 269 BCE to 232 BCE, commemorates the Emperor's pilgrimage to the Buddha's birthplace in Lumbini.

His teaching were passed down oral , Like all dharmic religions.

No written records of the Buddha until 400 years after the extermination of the Buddha's people.

Go learn to read from a proper school , Buddha's work , status , shrines/monasteries are cluttered all over India during his time , the fact that Magada empire are Buddhist kingdom from 600bce says everything

Magadha is recorded in Vedic texts much earlier in time than 600 BCE. The earliest reference to the Magadha people occurs in the Atharvaveda, where they are found listed along with the Angas, Gandharisand Mujavats. The core of the kingdom was the area of Bihar south of the Ganges


Gautama Buddha, the founder of Buddhism, lived much of his life in the kingdom of Magadha. He attained enlightenment in Bodh Gaya, gave his first sermon in Sarnath and the first Buddhist council was held in Rajgriha.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magadha

I suspected as much.
YOU ARE INTELECTUALLY CHALLENGED.
What STUPIDITY makes you post so many maps of HINDUSTAN to support the TERM HINDUISM being used to describe the RELIGION of the OPENSHITTERS beats me.
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Dog penis esters teaching me to read lol your qoute literally says Portuguese called Hindus as a religion in 16th century. Then again what can you expect from Chinese 5cent army.

Besides you moron haven't answered me yet how is a religion followed for 4000 years become less than 90 years old kek slave communist logic is hilarious
 
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We may not be best but some time after seeing this, we think that India isiheaven.
Yes. We excel at promoting backwardness.
Despite the fact that the top two faiths in this country have killed in thousands of thousands (counting 1947).
 
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Lol so the people on Indus-Ganga Plain were not Indians? Plz get cure for brain cancer, this is Buddhas kingdom where Buddhism furnished, talk about being retarded

His teaching were passed down oral , Luke all dharmic religions.

Go learn to read from a proper school , Buddha's work , status , shrines/monasteries are cluttered all over India during his time , the fact that Magada empire are Buddhist kingdom from 6000bce says everything

Magadha is recorded in Vedic texts much earlier in time than 600 BCE. The earliest reference to the Magadha people occurs in the Atharvaveda, where they are found listed along with the Angas, Gandharisand Mujavats. The core of the kingdom was the area of Bihar south of the Ganges


Gautama Buddha, the founder of Buddhism, lived much of his life in the kingdom of Magadha. He attained enlightenment in Bodh Gaya, gave his first sermon in Sarnath and the first Buddhist council was held in Rajgriha.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magadha

Dog penis esters teaching me to read lol your qoute literally says Portuguese called Hindus as a religion in 16th century. Then again what can you expect from Chinese 5cent army.

Besides you moron haven't answered me yet how is a religion followed for 4000 years become less than 90 years old kek slave communist logic is hilarious

Dog penis esters teaching me to read lol your qoute literally says Portuguese called Hindus as a religion in 16th century. Then again what can you expect from Chinese 5cent army.

Besides you moron haven't answered me yet how is a religion followed for 4000 years become less than 90 years old kek slave communist logic is hilarious
5 Rupees for your MORONIC contention that the Portuguese used "HINDUS" as a term for Religion and not for the people in the 16th century from your BEHIND without sources of course.
E-COLI in the air from OPENSHITTERS must have stunted your brain.

His teaching were passed down oral , Luke all dharmic religions.
ORALLY passed down LIES even to this digital day, like the BUDDHA was born in Gangadesh except for the Ahsoka Pillars that showed the BUDDHA was born in modern day NEPAL.
Only MORONS would trust ORALLY passed down LIES from OPENSHITDESH.
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Magadha is recorded in Vedic texts much earlier in time than 600 BCE. The earliest reference to the Magadha people occurs in the Atharvaveda, where they are found listed along with the Angas, Gandharisand Mujavats. The core of the kingdom was the area of Bihar south of the Ganges.[/QUOTE]
I didn't know that GANGAs have WRITTEN the Vedic texts since 600 BCE.
In that case GANGAs were the first to have WRITTEN TEXT.
Or is it another case of ORALLY passed down LIES.
" It is believed that the entire collection(Vedas) was completed by the end of the 2nd millennium BCE. " https://www.ancient.eu/The_Vedas/

Unbelievable how COW COLA can delude the OPENSHITTERS.
OPENSHITDESH should go register this mega achievement with the UNESCO.
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