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Real threat to regional peace comes from aggressive Japan, not China

But Japan's military expenditure is miniscule, it is less than .9% of our GDP.

How can we be 'aggressive' ? We have not been at war with anyone in almost 70 years.
China, on the opposite, had fought around in the last century. Let's ignore the first half of 20th century, the world was at war. From 1949, China always somehow find wars/skirmishes to fought. 1951-1953: The Korean war. 1967: China vs India border skirmishes. 1969:China vs Soviet border clashes. 1979: China so-called "Counter offensive war"(? counter what:woot:) 1987: China and India again. 1988: China and VN again. Not to mention countless small skirmishes around the border region of China. And China claims to be the peace keeper? Sure, Peace Keeper, US style:agree:.
 
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China, on the opposite, had fought around in the last century. Let's ignore the first half of 20th century, the world was at war. From 1949, China always somehow find wars/skirmishes to fought. 1951-1953: The Korean war. 1967: China vs India border skirmishes. 1969:China vs Soviet border clashes. 1979: China so-called "Counter offensive war"(? counter what:woot:) 1987: China and India again. 1988: China and VN again. Not to mention countless small skirmishes around the border region of China. And China claims to be the peace keeper? Sure, Peace Keeper, US style:agree:.

he he, you covered it all, my dear tomodachi.
 
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China PLAN attacked on Vietnam logistic soldiers and masacred them on Johnson South Reef amd ocoupied Island of Vietnam in 1988.

China is aggressive.
 
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China, on the opposite, had fought around in the last century. Let's ignore the first half of 20th century, the world was at war. From 1949, China always somehow find wars/skirmishes to fought. 1951-1953: The Korean war. 1967: China vs India border skirmishes. 1969:China vs Soviet border clashes. 1979: China so-called "Counter offensive war"(? counter what:woot:) 1987: China and India again. 1988: China and VN again. Not to mention countless small skirmishes around the border region of China. And China claims to be the peace keeper? Sure, Peace Keeper, US style:agree:.

IF we want war, you be dead. We haven't fought in the last 40 years+. Yea we did some crazy crap in the past, but that's in the past.

If we really did it US style there be no Vietnam.

Even if we can be defeated like you Vietnamese members think, do you doubt our ability to once again set fire to the North of Vietnam and this time using our Navy South Vietnam as well. Burning Saigon and Hanoi is not exactly difficult, even if your guerrilla warfare eventually wares us out. Are you prepared to lose millions get stuck in the stone age for another 40 years.
 
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IF we want war, you be dead. We haven't fought in the last 40 years+. Yea we did some crazy crap in the past, but that's in the past.

If we really did it US style there be no Vietnam.

Even if we can be defeated like you Vietnamese members think, do you doubt our ability to once again set fire to the North of Vietnam and this time using our Navy South Vietnam as well. Burning Saigon and Hanoi is not exactly difficult, even if your guerrilla warfare eventually wares us out. Are you prepared to lose millions get stuck in the stone age for another 40 years.
Up to 1991, VN and China had some crazy clashes in the area of Lao Son hill ( I believe China calls it Phoenix hill or something). Some Chinese even say that it was to train the troop with real life experience.

War is never pretty like it is on the screen, there will be death, on both sides. Civilians, soldiers, bullets and shells make no difference on them. You talk like killing off a million of us is nothing, but you, sir, should have more respect to life.
 
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Up to 1991, VN and China had some crazy clashes in the area of Lao Son hill ( I believe China calls it Phoenix hill or something). Some Chinese even say that it was to train the troop with real life experience.

War is never pretty like it is on the screen, there will be death, on both sides. Civilians, soldiers, bullets and shells make no difference on them. You talk like killing off a million of us is nothing, but you, sir, should have more respect to life.
clashes, nothing more than that, or there be war. And to say we use it to train troops is insane in the sense Vietnamese also charged positions, did we make you do that.

Also, what good would that do and how useful is it really.


Killing Vietnamese and destroying Vietnam is not something that should happen. You are in our back yard, your people sort of look like us and thus your image is also reflective of us.

Also, we want to go on to the world stage not stuck playing chicken with you.

But to claim we are not peaceful up to this point is just ignoring the facts, and the mass destruction we could have caused if we are to also start a war for all the reasons Americans have started it in the past 40 years.
 
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clashes, nothing more than that, or there be war. And to say we use it to train troops is insane in the sense Vietnamese also charged positions, did we make you do that.

Also, what good would that do and how useful is it really.


Killing Vietnamese and destroying Vietnam is not something that should happen. You are in our back yard, your people sort of look like us and thus your image is also reflective of us.

Also, we want to go on to the world stage not stuck playing chicken with you.

But to claim we are not peaceful up to this point is just ignoring the facts, and the mass destruction we could have caused if we are to also start a war for all the reasons Americans have started it in the past 40 years.
Starting a war is not for us to decide, it's for our leaders. We just follow the order. VN charged several key positions because they are very important to our security. Like Lao Son hill I just mentioned. It belonged to China now and China built a radar station there that could monitor the whole North VN airspace. In VN hand, it is an unknown hill. In China hand, it's a war asset.

Oh and the troop training thing, I read it from Chinese internet. What important is not whether it did or did not happen, but what your people think about it. Their attitude towards the matter is all I want to say.
 
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Starting a war is not for us to decide, it's for our leaders. We just follow the order. VN charged several key positions because they are very important to our security. Like Lao Son hill I just mentioned. It belonged to China now and China built a radar station there that could monitor the whole North VN airspace. In VN hand, it is an unknown hill. In China hand, it's a war asset.

Oh and the troop training thing, I read it from Chinese internet. What important is not whether it did or did not happen, but what your people think about it. Their attitude towards the matter is all I want to say.

So a few crazy nationalists were saying crap, you want to stack up your Vietnamese nationalists? They are about the same, I seen them.

Why do I keep getting the we are not the leaders comment, am I still on a military forum where we discuss the current events of the day. If this is all you have to say, stop posting cause the fact you are not a leader won't change soon, and thus anything you say is not relevant.

We are just talking possibilities here, this is what's fun about this place.
 
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China is taking back our birthright as the middle kingdom. Japan is likely to try to stop us. Since history is written by victors, Japan will be called the aggressor that brought mortal destruction on itself. Just like Germany was not content with the Versailles treaty and wanted a rematch.

Here lies the problem.
 
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China is taking back our birthright as the middle kingdom. Japan is likely to try to stop us. Since history is written by victors, Japan will be called the aggressor that brought mortal destruction on itself. Just like Germany was not content with the Versailles treaty and wanted a rematch.


There is no birthright when it comes to ancient kingdoms....Almost every civilization had a very vast kingdom at some point of time. Turks, Iranians, British etc etc all had their kingdoms. If all of them start claiming territory based on kingdoms then there will nothing but chaos and war.
 
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