I have few questions for those who opposed Zia Ul Haq strategy of starting Afghan Jihad and equipping Mujahideen to fight and destroy USSR.
- What you think we should have done ??? What would have been your plan and strategy to deal with a Super Power like USSR ???
- Do you really believe that USSR would have only stayed in Afghanistan and not try to capture parts of Pakistan if it would have not faced resistance and its plans would have succeeded ???
These are important questions, brother, which we should be asking on a regular basis to our historical revisionists in modern times.
Jazak Allahu Khairan for creating this much needed thread.
As I asked earlier, why couldn't Pakistan have been at peace with USSR and socialist Afghanistan ? About India, if the previous statement would have come true, perhaps India would have also become governed with an even more USSR-friendly government. As it is, in the 90s, the Indian government gave refuge to President Najibullah's family.
This would have led to peace between India and Pakistan.
But no, it is not for realpolitik that Zia ul Haq helped destroy Afghanistan. It was to appease the mullahs in Pakistan who wanted to wage war against the "Godless" socialists in Afghanistan which of course meant, as it always has happened, that he was helped by Western governments.
If Pakistan was destroyed, yes, then India would have peace and ability to do whatever it wants.
We Pakistanis do not take kindly to being occupied by foreign powers, you already know this. Resistance was survival.
Ideally I'd have liked the Northwest corner of India to be a corrider of peace between the two countries, linking them together. There are too many cultural similarities in that area that link the two, the Muhajirs can relate to Western UP, Pak Punjabis can relate to Indian Punjabis, Rajputs in Southern Punjab can relate to Rajasthan.
We have far more in common with Kashmiris, Pukhtoons, and Baloch.
Even I as a Punjabi Muslim can hardly relate to a Sikh Punjabi. We can speak some niceties, but I get bored as we run out of things to talk about.
Whereas my Pukhtoon relatives and friends can keep me engaged intellectually for a long time. There is more of a common culture between us.
We simply are too different from Indians to have commonalities beyond superficial greetings.
TTP was formed in 2006 3 years after Musharraf went in FATA to please USA. It wasn't USA order or pressure. His disastrous work in FATA gave birth to TTP and Pakistan faced most brutal war in history. Even those soldiers who opposed this strategy of Afghan Jihad will tell you that militants which we faced after 2001 are not those who we trained in Afghan Jihad or their Children. They all emerged when Musharraf made disastrous decisions.
And I am still waiting for your Answer on you would have dealt with USSR in Afghanistan and do you really believe that USSR would not have tried to capture Pakistan ???
The states which USSR had captured before they were called in all those states or they simply captured them ???
Exactly. Musharraf's self-destructive policies against Qabail and KPK created animosity. That animosity was used by outsiders to recruit for terrorists like TTP and JuA.
TTP has operated with different names, Attacks on PA and Administration starts not so long after 9/11, and TTP was just a unified body of Militants who were fighting with various small fraction or sometimes in Gangs or individuals , Either you like it or not , no one matter who was leader of Pakistan he would have bow to American Pressure including if Muhammad Ali Jinnah was the Leader, cause its either support them in Terrorism fight or be ready to bombed back to stone age, and they were not messing around back than, cause the wound was fresh and people want blood , they wanted Dead Muslims they dont care where from .
And how do you know which Militant or his kin later turn out and become TTP or JuA ? can you identify each an every single Individual militant that was trained by ISI or PA , and not just that you can follow up with their families and kids that who's kid joing AT or who's kid join TTP ? Sorry but that DUMB ..
read my post again, last two paragraph answers your queries .
Americans/NATO, along with Indians and later Iranians, created TTP/JuA are other groups to bring the fight to Pakistan. Remarkably, they used our own forced support for US to recruit disenfranchised and vulnerable youth to fight against 'Kuffar ally' Pakistan.
In short, they studied the rise of the Taliban and how it rose to power, then they created their own militia, which was wholly aimed at Pakistan. The same strategy was used again to create Daesh, which
conveniently fit neatly all negative stereotypes West had of Islam.
Taliban and TTP clashed, they publicly distanced themselves from them, while giving them safe havens and allowing Indians and others to arm, recruit, and provide logistics for them.
Pakistan was a victim of this planning and suffered greatly. Their planners thought Pakistan will collapse and break as a nation, and relished it. However, alhamdulilah, Pakistan disproved their notions and won victories against TTP, and we worked with Taliban to attack them in Afghanistan.
Fast forward, Taliban has secured Afghanistan for us, and here some of us are trying to promote this false notion that they are the same as TTP, and even extrapolating Mujahideen of another time and place into that flawed propaganda.
Pakistanis, wake up. You are being played yet again by the same people.
I have seen this movie when it came out. Very thought provoking.
Share your thoughts when you have time. Allah Hafiz.
