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Question for indians here, regarding Ramayana and Mahabharata

Yes they do give
Nope. They are not religious dictats but moral ones. If you don't follow them no God will come and banish you to hell. Your karma will punish you - that's all.

Which is why anyone can read the Gita, and people do.
 
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Did these guys also used to behead each other :p:

That we will never know, but kill...yes. But that was eons ago!! See, now in Odisha (I do not know about other states), villages are divided between congress side, BJD side, congress pond, BJD pond etc. And sometimes the quarrel goes to the extent of killing each other!!
 
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Not entirely. Again in the far South Shiva becomes more popular. Guess Shiva predated Vishnu avatars. I am not knowledgeable in these matters. Perhaps @levina's favorite Manvan ( :devil: ) can help. :haha:
its true actually!
Just 2 days back me and @nair were discussing this.Vishnu is more popular down south.I think this too has a scientific reason,which I dont know how to explain.:girl_wacko:
Its something related to the prasad and its contents.
 
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Indian hindus will become atheists soon
 
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I liked both the stories from my Childhood, but did you watch Ancient Aliens??:D

Does any one know, just like Shias and Sunnis of Islam, Hinduism also had two main sects quarreling or had serious differences among them selves? "Shaiba Bhaktas" followers of Shiva and "Baishanbas" followers of Vishnu. May be thousands of years ago.

@INDIC @TejasMk3 @Kinetic @ExtraOdinary @Nova2 @ptltejas @DesiGuy @kaykay @SarthakGanguly @GURU DUTT
Yes ,the name alien itself would fill me up with curiosity :D ,i did watch those series which had reference to Dwaraka,many temples in south India that were said to hv been built by an intellegent ancient civilisation,or some mordern tecnology,better than ours,in one series they metion about this temple which has a tomb kind of a structure weighing in tons,the question was how have did they put tht thing at the top of the temple,keeping in mind it was a very tall temple, & how did they transport tht thing to the construction site at the first place,etc. But i never came across hinduism having two sects part ,i guess i have to watch it all over again :(
 
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I liked both the stories from my Childhood, but did you watch Ancient Aliens??:D

Does any one know, just like Shias and Sunnis of Islam, Hinduism also had two main sects quarreling or had serious differences among them selves? "Shaiba Bhaktas" followers of Shiva and "Baishanbas" followers of Vishnu. May be thousands of years ago.

@INDIC @TejasMk3 @Kinetic @ExtraOdinary @Nova2 @ptltejas @DesiGuy @kaykay @SarthakGanguly @GURU DUTT
indra was our primary god but both shaiva and vaishnava made a joke out of him :lol:
almost every story starts with some asura defeating indra and than indra run towards vishnu and vishnu takes avatar and save the arse of indra :rofl:
and for shaivas, mostly, a devotee of shiva after getting boon from shiva challenges indra and than indra run towards shiva to save his arse :lol:
and you will never see a vaishnava saying something against shiva, probably because shiva predates vishnu and shiva was more popular god during that time and that may be the reason why shiva is known as destroyer, if you go against shiva shaivas will destroy you :lol:
vaishnavas says brahma is creator, vishnu is preserver and shiva is destroyer while shaivas believe that Shiva is All and in all, the creator, preserver, destroyer, revealer and concealer of all that is.
vaishavism slowly penetrated into mostly a shaivic society that's why it's more inclusive than shaivism.
 
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a machine has to be created, run and then disposed of. to serve a purpose.

even the human body.

brahma was the creater, vishnu the support centre, shiva broke it down for scrap.

what is so difficult to understand ?

shaivaites, vaishnavites, mangobites, none of them got the message.
 
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I liked both the stories from my Childhood, but did you watch Ancient Aliens??:D

Does any one know, just like Shias and Sunnis of Islam, Hinduism also had two main sects quarreling or had serious differences among them selves? "Shaiba Bhaktas" followers of Shiva and "Baishanbas" followers of Vishnu. May be thousands of years ago.

As far as serious differences, I'm not sure if it ever spilled into bloody wars like between Shias and Sunnis, the conflict was more intellectual and spiritual in nature, normally settled through debates. While rulers had their affinities, it was not imposed upon the people.

I actually tried to search about conflicts when the movie "Dasavataram" released. There was a scene where The Chidambaram temple was shutdown because it was a Vaishnavite temple by Kulothunga Chola, and the Poojari drowned with the idol, but it looks like they were just rumours.


Same here, I have noticed that Shiva is the patron god for majority of people in Himalayan states. Vishnu becomes more popular as we move down South. Is this trend true?

TN is Shaivite land. While we do have a tradition of Vishnu saints, (alwars) Shiva is far more popular.

Most popular gods in TN-> Shiva, Murugan ,Parvati (also many other forms as Amman/Shakthi), Vinayaga, Vishnu and other local gods Ayyanar

A lot of importance is given Siddhars. siddhars are Yogis, who are supposed to be masters of yoga, Medicine (Siddha medicine), literature, astronomy,martial arts and so on. Agastya is considered to be one of the more important ones, they are all devotees of Shiva and attribute their knowledge to him.
 
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I read MB thrice bt always skipping Geta!! BAD


MB is great but Geeta is the Eternal Knowledge of MB.... the centre point... read it atleast thrice.... or may be short form.. try to understand it through life... you will find it wonderful.
 
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Seriously. Hawking would be impressed. :)

Despite being atheist, that's what still keeps me interested in hinduism sculptures...most of it deals with criticism and doesn't feed up usual bullsh$t like other religions.

Did these guys also used to behead each other :p:

can you believe fighting and killings are going on since ages...even during time of gods...! this tells us something...that gods does not answer the to every problem. since we created problems, we can find answers too.
 
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Recent evidences are showing up that Ram sethu bridge is man made. Reading that up friend?

BS. Ram sethu is a naturally made geological feature. Human cannot build such a things. If we assume that humans built it then what materials they used? Sand? Then what machinery they use? Monkeys or dredgers?

P.S. However it is better for SL to keep the Ram sethu is made by man notion or else Indians will dredge though the bridge. :p
 
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1) Ramayana and Mahabharata is not religious Book.. Koran and Bible are religious book. Ramayana and Mahabharata doesn't give any religious code of conduct. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------The Koran and Bible are part of Hinduism as they have borrowed messages from Hindu Scriptures such as “The Gita, The Mahabharata and Ramayana”. The word “Amen” found in Jewish old testament and Christian‘s Bible also the redundant Al-Quran renamed the word “Amen to Amin” are borrowed from Ramayana’s Sanskrit text that dates much further than the 3 middle east religion. All Christian, Muslim and world’s religion faiths are somehow connected directly and indirectly towards “Hinduism”. There are no such thing as Christian or Muslim life, Heaven, Hell after death or even the present time are all operates according to Hinduism Karma law. All Muslim/Christians are Hindus, it’s just that they talk loud, brag and are too stupid to understand anything. No souls could avoid the Hindu Karma law. Hinduism the mother /Father of all faiths.

2) shaiva and vaishnava are one and the same. There has never been any kinds of wars between shaiva and vaishnava but in the Muslim world ,even a dead men could hear the sound of wars in the Muslim world. The Al quran are not messages from “Allah/God” but from a madmen whom hungered on little girls.

Final conclusion..The Ramayana and mahabharatha are religious test and are connected to religious matters that provides peace towards God but not for the Christian bible and Islam’s Quran that only directed the souls towards hatred, suicide jihadis,lies,murderers and have directed the souls to the path of demonic life.


3)Ramayana and Mahabharata doesn't give any religious code of conduct. ---------------------------------------------- Fools like the Christians/Muslims whom posses evil minds wouldn’t know the code unlike Swamijis like me whom knows where and what’s written in all those Sanskrit text knows the codes from “God/Shiva,Vishnu and Maha Durga”. The swamiji…worlds religion investigator. All Christians and Muslims hear me and face the swamiji..

Wow! You have really big narcissistic issues. Hinduism also taught us that "a little respect goes a long way", but you seemed to have conveniently ignore it while bashing other religions. An advice - Please keep your opinion to yourself and please never ever come back to India to preach us what Hinduism is. And to top that, you call yourself swamiji?
 
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-Wow! You have really big narcissistic issues. and please never ever come back to India to preach us what Hinduism is. And to top that, you call yourself swamiji? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Are you stupid? There’s a topic about Mahabharatha and Ramayana scripture being debated. Refer to the comments details rather than being trying to be nice and a descent soul. One has to provide those answers in the manner which I prefer because the debaters behaviors suits and integrates well according to their characters. Those answers are well answered and nothing is wrong about it. Maybe stupid Hindu fools like you whom are equal to Mahamat Ghandhi whom obtains very nice personnel title from international and worldwide fame whom sold and gave away part of India to ungrateful Muslim Pakistanis only to face numerous problems from them causing multiply tragedy since independence for Indian and its citizens. “Eternal lives” ,I’m a swamiji very well versed regarding worlds faith .it’s only dump fools like you knows little but acts like holy person whom understood the entire Hindu scriptures meaning. Hinduism will act in peace and holy manner but when its comes to dealing with demonic kinds of souls, one has to provide a suitable weapon to counter fire the demonic kinds of enemy that causes disaster to the world community. Lord Krshna orders Arjuna to kill those demonic relatives…why? Lord krshna could had ask Arjuna to send flowers to his cousins to settle all issues instead of facing the Battle of kurusetra. “Eternal lives “don’t try to be the holiest stupid soul. Life is not in such path, nor I’m i a fool to waste my time for the debate and explanation. Debate with me eternal lives, you had insulted a Hindu swamiji . The swamiji..


Please don't compare .. till the time we will be thinking ours is good theirs is bad... we cam not leave every bond to see the light of Dharma. Comparison is the first step to a fight. Every religion is a new way to the God.

See all the human beings in the same way... hindu muslims,, christians... etc etc... you will feel something different... you will not eagerness to fight... you will feel we are same.
 
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Same here, I have noticed that Shiva is the patron god for majority of people in Himalayan states. Vishnu becomes more popular as we move down South. Is this trend true?
how is siva worship got incorporated in Hinduism? I mean what is his status in hinduism?
I know Hindus believe in Brahma as the creator god..then who are Vishnu, saraswathi, shiva, Durga, kali, Ganesh gods?

History of India before 600BC are recorded in Hindu religious texts but after 600BC we have Buddhists and Jain sources to verify the existence of Kings and kingdoms, so most probable they are based on true events and can't be rejected mere as a mythology. Moreover, Mahabharata gives very accurate description of the geography of ancient India and kingdoms and ancient people/tribes inhabiting them and many of such ancient place names are still in use. Anyway, two epics have contributed lot in shaping the Indian civilization and I really don't care if people believe them to be true or not, they are still very important for the Indian civilization.

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the pic shows SL as Sinhala and no eelam in it. Sounds interesting!
 
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