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Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

Qaeda plans to trap US in Afghanistan beyond 2011

* Arrested terrorists say Osama has told terrorist groups, TTP to accelerate recruitment, training
* Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Indian Ocean will be major Qaeda battlefields

Special Correspondent

LAHORE: Al Qaeda has devised a plan to trap US forces in Afghanistan even beyond 2011 through a well-organised guerrilla war, highly informed sources from official and unofficial quarters revealed. In this connection, al Qaeda chief Osama Bin Laden has told Pakistani terrorist groups and the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan to accelerate recruitment and training process, sources said.

The plan was unearthed after the October 2009 attack on the army’s General Headquarters in Rawalpindi, when investigators managed to arrest a few operatives of the most-feared terrorist group – the Ilyas Kashmiri Group, who confirmed that some of the terrorist groups are closely working with al Qaeda.

Pakistan’s official sources disclosed, “Kashmiri’s operatives revealed that Harkatul Jihad-e-Islami chief Qari Saifullah Akhtar met Osama in August 2009 near the Pak-Afghan border (on the Afghan side) and sought support for the GHQ attack.” The sources said Bin Laden simply rejected the idea. Ilyas Kashmiri is the head of Brigade 313, a wing of Akhtar’s group.

The sources continued, “Osama told Akhtar that he and other terrorist groups should serve the greater cause – jihad against America – and provide them warriors.” They claim that Osama discussed his plan with Akhtar and mentioned that he does not want US forces to go back so easily. “He wants to carry out guerrilla attacks on the US forces wherever they have bases in the region.”

Battlefields: The sources said Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia and the Indian Ocean would be the major battlefields for al Qaeda operatives. In this regard, the group is looking for more manpower from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Burma and some African countries, the sources added. There are reports that al Qaeda has already established its network and training camps in Somalia.

Pakistan’s top brass has shared this information with their American counterparts. “That’s the reason the US has stepped up negotiations with the Taliban to weaken al Qaeda-Taliban ties,” the sources said.

Interior Minister Rehman Malik could not be reached despite repeated attempts.

Historical evidence about Osama’s mindset also supports Daily Times’ story. In the beginning of 1988, when the former USSR had announced to withdraw from Afghanistan, jihadi leaders held a grand meeting in Peshawar where Osama and Aiman Al-Zawahiri had proposed they should not let the USSR withdraw easily and should keep attacking them during the withdrawal process. However, Dr Abdullah Azzam, chair of the meeting, had opposed the idea and majority of Arab and Afghan commanders supported him. Dr Azzam was later killed in a bomb blast, a couple of months before the Red Army’s withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Vigorous war: About the plan and al Qaeda’s capability, Pakistan Institute for Peace Studies director and a specialist on terrorist groups Amir Rana says if Pakistani and Somali terrorist groups support al Qaeda, it would be able to wage a vigorous guerrilla war on the US forces.

Meanwhile, influences of Akhtar and Kashmiri over various terrorist groups cannot be ignored. Although the Harktul Jihad-e-Islami’s Pakistan chapter has been “dismantled”, it is successfully running its movements in Burma, Uzbekistan, Chechnya and Tajikistan, and may recruit people for al Qaeda from there.
 
Ayee, Ayee, Ayee. still one big mess in the region.:frown:
Guess we'll have to get ready for a bigger deadlier war.
God bless the poor people. Amen
 
* Arrested terrorists say Osama has told terrorist groups, TTP to accelerate recruitment, training
* Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Indian Ocean will be major Qaeda battlefields

Yemen was left out but it is a hotbed of Al Qaeda and ancestral land of Bin Laden. There has been a lot of things going on in Yemen.
 
^^ Yeah, Sudan is another one. Not to mention the UK!!

The point is that the WoT has emboldened and strengthened international terrorism. The US is now looking at a withdrawal without achieving any of their objectives, and the Taliban are going from strength to strength.

Pakistan *must* disconnect elements of the Afghan Taliban from Al-Qaeda. Otherwise you will have a situation far worse - regionally and internationally - than pre-9/11. America must be taken on board in this exercise. It appears that Petraeus is in synch with this thinking given the statements he has been making.

The stakes here are far higher than Vietnam or Korea. If America just cuts and runs, it will be disastrous for all involved.
 
I have heard news from Brussels, today which indicates that there will be an issuance of ultimatum to GHQ for commencement of operation in NW after outstanding CSF is settled. Non-compliance will complicate the situation for everyone.
 
US and Pakistan can easily finish of Alqaeda but both of them are not in interested.The solution is quite easy.
 
US and Pakistan can easily finish of Alqaeda but both of them are not in interested.The solution is quite easy.

I am sure a number of us here would be fascinated with the solution, mind sharing it?


As for the OP intersting that Al-qaeda seems to be scared of the idea of the US leaving. America leaves Iraq, leaves Afghanistan sort of puts a big hole in the repel christian invaders recruiting cry when they go home. Perhaps the idea of just becoming a tired old man in a cave that no one cares about worries him.
 
Dunya agay nikal chuki hey aur ye dono dhakan terrorist terrorist aur terrorist ke chupan chupaye he kheel rahay hain abhe tak (Pak US)
 
I have heard news from Brussels, today which indicates that there will be an issuance of ultimatum to GHQ for commencement of operation in NW after outstanding CSF is settled. Non-compliance will complicate the situation for everyone.

CSF is not the only item, we need equipment, more air assets are required, day-night bombing & surveillance is required, if we went into NW, it will be one hell of a fight, trailer of the upcoming fight can be seen through the bloody engagements being seen in Orakzai Agency, the militants are giving a very very tough fight and making sure the Army not easily takes the ground.

Such will be rather more fierce would be the case in NW also, as it would be their last controlled area with huge infrastructure.

So its not just CSF, attack helicopters are required, PGMs, money for IDPs, ammo, intelligence and surveillance equipment etc etc etc.
 
I am sure a number of us here would be fascinated with the solution, mind sharing it?


As for the OP intersting that Al-qaeda seems to be scared of the idea of the US leaving. America leaves Iraq, leaves Afghanistan sort of puts a big hole in the repel christian invaders recruiting cry when they go home. Perhaps the idea of just becoming a tired old man in a cave that no one cares about worries him.
Well my ideas are as brutal.I think all Alqaida members should be captured and put in extermination camps.They should be executed in variety of ways such as putting them in live fire or cutting off their private parts while they're alive and ship them back to their HQ.Alqaida is brutal and we need to reciprocate in brutality.
 
CSF is not the only item, we need equipment, more air assets are required, day-night bombing & surveillance is required, if we went into NW, it will be one hell of a fight, trailer of the upcoming fight can be seen through the bloody engagements being seen in Orakzai Agency, the militants are giving a very very tough fight and making sure the Army not easily takes the ground.

Such will be rather more fierce would be the case in NW also, as it would be their last controlled area with huge infrastructure.

So its not just CSF, attack helicopters are required, PGMs, money for IDPs, ammo, intelligence and surveillance equipment etc etc etc.


If that is the case , there is no alternative but to accept Joint Operation with ISAF because it will take much longer time to reach the operational mode which is not before the next summer at the earliest. It means that Taliban knows about the limitation on our side and they are also counting on non-offensive from GHQ.
 
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If that is the case , there is no alternative but to accept Joint Operation with ISAF because it will take much longer time to reach the operational mode which is not before the next summer at the earliest. It means that Taliban knows about the limitation on our side and they are also counting on non-offensive from GHQ.

Buddy, what has ISAF done so far in Afghanistan, that they are gonna come here and help us out.

First let them do something substantial in Afghanistan, they we will ask for their help, better would be they seal the border on their own side with heavy presence and not let the militants have a safe heaven just like previous times in Bajaur, Mohmand etc etc, and most important of all not leave the posts once the operation starts.

Even if they do this much, bari meharbani un ki.
 
Buddy, what has ISAF done so far in Afghanistan, that they are gonna come here and help us out.

First let them do something substantial in Afghanistan, they we will ask for their help, better would be they seal the border on their own side with heavy presence and not let the militants have a safe heaven just like previous times in Bajaur, Mohmand etc etc, and most important of all not leave the posts once the operation starts.

Even if they do this much, bari meharbani un ki.

They are going to do it and then the onus will be on our side. COAS discussed the same with Brussels precisely as you described. This is fair enough for the both sides. The fact which we all need to recognize that enough was not done in neither side. Each side was putting blame the on the other. This has to stop because this is getting us nowhere. Let us work together and finish the business.
 
It might look counter intuitive but withdrawal of American troops will actually weaken the Taliban and AQ recruitment drive. Atleast, the US would be well advised to "begin" a withdrawal process but involve the regional players and that includes Iran as well.
But I doubt wether Obama will actually go through with his withdrawal timetable.
 
Arrested terrorists say Osama has told terrorist groups, TTP to accelerate recruitment, training

some people say ttp is funded by india,it will be good to india ,if u.s stays there,lot of ppl are waiting 4 their exit.all the terror organisations may target india after afgh.
 

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