That is what some wish, like india. Realities are much different than US-indo wish and thinking.
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NATO has always been a defensive alliance, meaning its members will defend themselves, and each other, if they are attacked, including the smaller NATO states. What will interesting to see if Russians are willing to die for China and/or Chinese die for Russia.
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Op is an idiot (no offense)
NATO:
Soldiers: 3.7M
over 25K airplanes
200 submarines
8K nukes
12K tanks (irrelevant stat)
1300 warships
Military budget: $1.3T
NATO:
Soldiers: 3.7M
over 25K airplanes
200 submarines
8K nukes
12K tanks (irrelevant stat)
1300 warships
Military budget: $1.3T
Defensive? Did Yugoslavia, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq attacked the West? As i recall it the US has always used NATO states to attack countries it wanted to overthrow.
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Imagine lol, you're delusional.
NATO's GDP ($45T Japan excluded)
NATO has more manpower (3.7M)
West's technology>>>>Chinese junk
West is much bigger in terms of land and natural resources (Canada, US, Australia, EU, Japan = 40.000.000 km² vs Russia/China 27.000.000 km²
Get real and please stop with the CCP propaganda
Japan is part of the West? I never knew that. I thought Japanese are East Asians and not Caucasians.
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Want to see how other Nato states perform in wars besides US when taking joint missions, check Korean war and Vietnam war.
China won the Korean War as it was fighting 16 countries head on. China won and NATO lost
Communist Vietnam won the Vietnam War and took the South. American troops fled back to USA.
Today China and Russia two of the three mightiest countries forming a military alliance could easily drill USA + NATO in their butts. I would not underestimate what that alliance can really do.
Communist Vietnam won the Vietnam War and took the South. American troops fled back to USA.
Today China and Russia two of the three mightiest countries forming a military alliance could easily drill USA + NATO in their butts. I would not underestimate what that alliance can really do.
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Nato is just a bunch of small countries with different motives and interests banding together seeking protection from US, it has never proved itself as an united combat force to reckon with in the history and will never do in the future.
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Japan joins US by announcing space force in face of new threats
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Japan joins US by announcing space force in face of new threats
Japan joins US by announcing space force in face of new threats
Japan is increasingly worried about the interstellar activity of Russia and China who are reportedly trying to disrupt satellites.news.sky.com
U.S., Japan, Six Other Nations Sign Artemis Accords
Japan almost a ‘sixth eye’ as Five Eyes keep closer watch on Chinese military, North Korea
Japan almost a ‘sixth eye’ as Five Eyes spy alliance widens
Tokyo is one of three new non-member partners to the Five Eyes group which collects intelligence on North Korean ballistic missile launches.www.scmp.com
- Tokyo is one of three new non-member partners to the Five Eyes spy alliance which collects intelligence on North Korean ballistic missile launches
- Under the ‘Five Eyes plus’ framework, partners will exchange data on a range of areas, including China’s military, cybersecurity and outer space
Japan and U.S. agree to boost defense cooperation in outer space
Japan and U.S. agree to boost defense cooperation in outer space
Chief of Space Operations Gen. John Raymond was the first high-ranking foreign official to meet with Prime Minister Shinzo Abe since late February.www.japantimes.co.jp
Japanese and U.S. astronauts 'ready to fly' in Oct. 31 SpaceX mission
Japanese and U.S. astronauts 'ready to fly' in Oct. 31 SpaceX mission
The upcoming mission will mark the first in a series of regular, rotational flights to the International Space Station by SpaceX's new crew transportation system.
Japan is planning to buy 105 more F-35 stealth fighters, and that may be a big problem for China
Japan is planning to buy 105 more F-35 stealth fighters, and that may be a big problem for China
The deal to buy 105 of the fighters will expand Japan's capabilities in the South China Sea, and Beijing may intensify an arms race in the region.
You said Japan land mass is part of the Western land mass. Now show us the proof not some links about garbage
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Not at all possible.... Atleast for nowVladimir Putin warns of Russia-China alliance with three times the tanks & warships of US & 6,810 combined nukes
- Henry Holloway
- 23 Oct 2020, 13:48
- Updated: 23 Oct 2020
VLADIMIR Putin has hinted about a future military alliance between Russia and China that would be more powerful than the US.
The two powers combined would outnumber the US Army some two to one, have three times as many tanks and warships, and have more nuclear weapons.
Missile launchers rumble through in Moscow during a military paradeCredit: Getty Images - Getty
Vladimir Putin hinted of a new alliance between Russia and ChinaCredit: AP:Associated Press
China and Russia have the world's second and third most powerful militaries - and a formal alliance could help tip the scales against the US.
Putin signaled deepening ties between Moscow and Beijing as both have ongoing tensions with Washington.
Russia continues to try and thrash out a new arms treaty, while facing ongoing allegations of election interference in the US along with military tensions in Eastern Europe and the Middle East.
China meanwhile has seen relations with the US plunge to new lows due to the coronavirus pandemic and rows over the South China Sea and Taiwan.
Vlad was quizzed on whether he could envision a military alliance between Moscow and Beijing during a conference call on Thursday.
He replied: "'We don't need it, but, theoretically, it's quite possible to imagine it."
Russia and China have hailed their "strategic partnership", but have so far stopped short of creating a formal military alliance.
It would be worrying for the rest of the world as well, especially if Donald Trump wins the US election on November 3.
Trump has long insisted on an "America First" policy, and wants the US to have less involvement in foreign conflicts while also showing scepticism over alliances such as Nato.
Russia and China would outnumber the US - and every other military in the world - but also have advantages in several key areas.
However, even combined the two massive nations lag behind the US in military spending - with a duel total of $302billion, compared to America's mammoth $430billion.
China has the largest number of active soldiers in the worldCredit: AFP or licensors
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13004888/vladimir-putin-russia-china-military-alliance/#
Russia and China combined would have 3.2million troopsCredit: Alamy Live News
Russia and China would outnumber the US two-to-one in terms of active military personnel, comparing 3.2million to 1.4million.
They would also have a vastly larger fleet of tanks - with 16,450 total - and warships, with a total of 1,380.
And with Russia already having the largest nuclear stockpile in the world, combining with China's nukes pushes them in further ahead.
The US however would maintain advantages in some areas, such as having many more warplanes - with 13,264 compared to 7,373.
Aircraft carriers are also one of the most important ways of projecting power worldwide - and the US have 11 with two more under construction.
China has two with one under construction, and Russia has just one extremely old vessel - with the infamous, smoke belching Admiral Kuznetsov.
The US has as many aircraft carriers as the rest of the world combined, and the weapons are essential to asserting global dominance since World War 2.
Russia and China would have three times as many warshipsCredit: Alamy Live News
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13004888/vladimir-putin-russia-china-military-alliance/#
And an alliance would give them three times as many tanksCredit: Getty Images - Getty
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13004888/vladimir-putin-russia-china-military-alliance/#
Putin said recent war games Russia and China have carried out highlight how well the two country's cooperate.
He also hinted that Russia has shared military technology with China, but declined to go into any specifics.
"Without any doubt, our cooperation with China is bolstering the defense capability of China's army." Putin said.
"Time will show how it will develop. We won't exclude it."
Putin has been key in pushing Russia to develop new weapons, including modernising its nuclear weapons.
He has repeatedly pushed for his country to be on the forefront of development of technologies such as hypersonic missiles, seen as a new frontier in weapons tech.
Putin however did say he continues to be eager to signing a new weapons treaty, with the New Start agreement set to expire in February.
The deal was signed in 2010 with US President Barack Obama, and the pact act limits each country to no more than 1,550 deployed nuclear warheads and 700 deployed missiles and bomber.
Trump has however said they would only renew the agreement if China also joins, but Beijing has refused.
US officials are now trying to push through a new agreement - with the Trump administration keen to do so before the election - with a one-year extension.
Putin said: "The question is whether to keep the existing treaty as it is, begin a detailed discussion and try to reach a compromise in a year or lose that treaty altogether, leaving ourselves, Russia and the United States, along with the rest of the world, without any agreement restricting an arms race.
"I believe the second option is much worse."
He added: "If our partners decide that they don´t need it, well, so be it, we can´t stop them.
"Russia´s security will not be hurt, particularly because we have the most advanced weapons systems."
Putin hints at future Russia-China military alliance more powerful than US
VLADIMIR Putin has hinted about a future military alliance between Russia and China that would be more powerful than the US. The two powers combined would outnumber the US Army some two to one, hav…www.thesun.co.uk
Both are independent nations with quite different interests....
You really dont know what your talking about. If NATO is such a paper tiger then why does Russia feel so threatened that they have to make almost daily threats? Why is Iran building missiles to target NATO nations? Where do you get your information from????
What makes you think in any possible Russian/Chinese conflict against the US that NATO/Japan wont get involved? im sorry but you have given one side an extremely positive scenario while giving the other the worst possible scenario.
Lastly if Russia is such a great ally of China then why did it betray China by not joining the korean war? (Stalin promised Mao soviets would invade but backstabbed him). Why did the Soviets actively back Vietnam against China? Why are the Russians stationing ballistic/cruise missiles on the border with China? Why are the Russians actively backing India today against China? Russians appear to be far more shrude than you gullible Chinese and just want your $$$ while the rest of the world sanctions them.
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Nato feels more threatened by Russia than the other way around, it is common sense.
You should lecture Putin on that as he was the one who said a military alliance is highly possible in the future. Maybe Putin is just dreaming?
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