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Dude, I have not much information but I hope this might help:@New do u have any news about iran's soviet type railway ?? i read something so many years ago they are going to build one
russian and soviet railway are not same with iranian railwaywhy don't we build it ourselves ? incompetency at best
ridiculous
the problem arose when Iran increased the fee coz Turkish trucks are using cheap Gas for their trucks.. It is around 25 cents (USD) for one litter while it is 5 times more for Iranian trucks... Iran increased the fee to offset this amount... but Turkey increased its rates too!! this is something should be fair otherwise, both sides will lose great benefits.. Iran already have plans to establish a route through Iraq and Syria but this DAESH shit happened.. Iran also has a naval commercial fleet in Caspian sea and already exports its goods by ships to Kaz, Russia and Europe... There is also Armenia, Georgia, Russia , Europe route..and also direct Anzali port and Noshahr Port links to Astrakhan port in Russia and from them to Europe... I have heard there were negotiations with Azerbaijan to transit Iranian goods by Azeris asked for time to widen their road system and connect thier rail to Iran if I,m not wrong... due to Iran's strategic location... most nation prefer to use Iranian land for that... for sure there are political game equations here too..but at last.. they have no choice... and to export NG to europe Iran wants Turkey to be the middle man. Iran already gained it Air Transit position back since Rohani in office... today more than 900 commercial air planes using Iranian air space for transit every single day... and it was all done by IKAO asking Iran to facilitate transit and Iran said WHY NOT!!... Russia is the mother land of transit due to its size... then comes Iran and Turkey ... God bless turk brothers btw .. I like them as their policy been always independent and strong..and friendlyI have seen more Iranian Trucks this year than usual on the highway to Istanbul, Iran starting to increase the fees in which Turkey also increased to retaliate was a bad move, it will only damage the trade.
Turkey is building a train line to Azerbaijan, which also will connect Turkmenistan with ferries, where Iran can be bypassed to reach CA but Iran doesnt have much alternative to reach certain European countrys.
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wrong brother...read my earlier post about it... Iran done nothing but to equal fairs... nothing special..and it already had fixed by the wayThis conflict is because Iran wants to dominate transportation business. They are charging Turkish trucks with extra charges so that we can't do business and they can steal our business. Turkey retaliated with the same, and by-passed Iran.
Situation solved. Inshallah we will stop buying over-priced natural gas from Iran when TANAP completes.... it is impossible to do business with Mullahs.
and please stop this Mullah...turk osmani stuff... this is a stone age behavior..when we want to learn this? we have %80 common points and %20 differences...we must be stupid not to use our potentials and advantages... Don,t judge fast... don,t be tribal... don,t make more enemies as we already both have enemies... let,s act as Muhammad (pbuh) treated his multi nationality SAHABA... Salman e Farsi from Persian... From Yemen... many great people from Turks... please let,s be civilized...let us be in a way that others envy us for our rich culture and behavior... God bless you kardasi...This conflict is because Iran wants to dominate transportation business. They are charging Turkish trucks with extra charges so that we can't do business and they can steal our business. Turkey retaliated with the same, and by-passed Iran.
Situation solved. Inshallah we will stop buying over-priced natural gas from Iran when TANAP completes.... it is impossible to do business with Mullahs.
Haman jan..please don,t act like this.. I expect even more from Iranians...please be my little brother and believe me it is in your and everybody's benefit to act like brothers.. even if you have something bad in your heart..don,t flame an already dry leaf.. Thanks my kind brotherinshaallah
turkey is a rogue regime anyways . t is impossible to do business with dum dums
this thread has nothing to do with turkey too @Serpentine
dude, first countries that recognize Azerbaijan after Soviet collapse, were Turkey first and Pakistan second, Then Iran, USA and ISrael... You better keep your conversation based on true story..Iran was the first to recognize you after the fall of the soviets
If there were real Azeris, they wouldnt fight with 3 to one. We have a culture to fight 1 to 1. But, as you mentioned that, one of them was gay, seems like your are in a wrong circle.. We have a proverb that, show me your friend, i will tell who you are! Message delivered..نتانیاهو:با القاعده ارتباط داریم!+تصویر - مشرق نیوز | آخرین اخبار ایران و جهان | mashreghnews.ir
you are whatver you think you are..even if you are not that person in reality...btw, we are not talking about Azeri brothers in Az Republic... They are very much mixed with other southern cacusian people... but they are not definately turk.. Even Turks in Turkey are not Turk in majority... You are what you are... let me tell you two stories although they might seem off tpic...
once upon a time somewhere in Baltic sea area... I happened to become room mates with one German and 3 Azeris from Az Republic for 2 days... There was a fight (not a hit-hit fight of course) between the Azeri guys and the German one... I tried to be neutral..but then two of the engaging Azi brothers asked me loudly if I am Sharafsiz ... I said what it has to do with me.. they said, they expected me as an Iranian to back them up against the German... Then they explained in response to my question why they expected that way... They said, we are both Muslim.. We are both Shia... We are both in Caspian's... we were both a single nation until just recently... then I replied by bringing up a HADITH from Imam Ali saying, you must be with RIGHT specially when it is against your family, friends or yourself interests... one of them impressed so much that he left the room for couple of minutes... Funny thing is that one of those 3 Azeris was gay and had a ring in his ears... He was trying all the time to mingle with that German guy and other European guests...
Another time I became a guest of a family in Kiev... the family was consisted of an husband with Azeri heritage, a half polish-Half Ukrainian Mom and the kids... The husband is my friend now for sometime... Once that we have seen so many Turks in streets in Kiev, I asked him if he feels close to them... He said it..and said it angrily that he is no Turk... He is an Azeri from Shirvan... He even did n't let his kids learn Azeri Turkish...
1- yeah right... A %99 percent elected president for N times and happens to be the son of the previous president!! Don't kid us at this late time...!!democratic republic
Where were Iran at that time?
I respect Iran, we might have similarities.. We lived in a country that controlled by Turk and Persian tribes.. Safavi and so on.. I see actually many Iranians in each Novruz holiday in Baku. I think, novadays, There is too much money is poured into Azerbaijan to change people to sunni. In a decade, you might loose that similarity as well. Another reason, there are already many Azerbaijanis from Northen cities are in ISIS..
who did you save us from? Azerbaijan was fighting the war by itself , while Russia was providing massive amounts of weapons to the enemy
once the country was exhausted from war, political conflicts and a possible start of civil war
Russia brought 2 sides to the table , Iran had nothing to do with it.
apparently anything said against Iran , is either being a panturk or a government lie , get over yourself.
it was beneficial for both Russia and Iran for Azerbaijan to remain weak , nothing against the people
that's just how politics work
Lol , first, no one in their right mind in Azerbaijan would want to join Iran
second , Azerbaijan has progressed a lot more in a decade under Aliyev than Iran has in 3-4 decades under your government.
third. an average Azerbaijani has a lot more rights than an average Iranian
and fourth , you have no means to take back anything in present or in the future.
There is no Azerbaijan vs Iran, just some information.
was occupied by russian and britain forces.
you also should check out the first and second iran-russ wars. do you think why second war happened? you also can check out the iranian role in 1992 war with armenia. where were others?
yeah we are completely aware of spreading vahabism in there, thank to the huge amount money from saudi arabia and anti iran and shia policy by the government. when islamic party is banned and many limited on people who had been studied in iran. do you expect something else? although nowadays the situation is getting a little better. but as much as more vahabis will be in there, more blood might be seen there in future..
the similarity is not just about the religion, its included of languages,culture like nowruz,names, history, poets, foods, and many other elements of culture.
did you know mohammad amin rasulzade was a truly Iranian patriot and a parliament Representative in iran? he also published first modern newspaper in iran to name" new iran" and ... just in case to know qardash
im not gonna answer your post about tatars in Caucasus because of serpentine demand to stop. but i have some good sources about it. btw...
of course azerbaijan was fighting the war by itself like syria does nowadays.
so no one is taking the glory of resistence of you people. just im saying how iran helped that time while others were only barking. before russia, it was iran who brought both sides to the table for 2 times.
Iran was conducting military maneuvers near the Nakhichevan Autonomous Republic in a move widely regarded as a warning to Armenia. Iran proposed creation of a twenty-kilometer security zone along the Iranian-Azerbaijani border, where Azerbaijanis would be protected by Iranian firepower. Iran also contributed to the upkeep of camps in southwestern Azerbaijan to house and feed up to 200,000 Azerbaijanis fleeing the fighting.
Azerbaijan - Efforts to Resolve the Nagorno-Karabakh Crisis, 1993
Iran started its mediation initiatives in March 1992, when it invited high-ranking delegations from Armenia and Azerbaijan to Tehran for negotiations.(36) A temporary cease-fire, a lifting of the blockade of Armenia by the Azeri side, the deployment of observer forces and an exchange of prisoners of war and bodies were discussed. A declaration on the resolution of the conflict was signed by the delegations in Tehran on 15 March. A seven-day cease-fire was announced as a first step in the peace process. On 19 March, UN Secretary-General Boutros Boutros-Ghali sent a message to the Iranian Foreign Minister expressing the UN's appreciation of Iran's efforts at mediation and its support for Iran's attempts to reach a peaceful settlement.
In spite of the deterioration in its relations with Azerbaijan, Iran established a good relationship with Geidar Aliyev, then leader of Nakhichevan. Despite his communist past and his closeness to Russia, Iran supported his efforts to preserve peace in the autonomous region by giving financial aid to Nakhichevan and by pressurizing Armenia. Visiting Tehran, Aliyev said (referring to the APF leadership) that "no Satan can damage our relations with Iran". Between July 1992 and June 1993, Iran concentrated its efforts on containing the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan and on preventing it from spilling over into Nakhichevan. It attributed all the defeats suffered by the Azeri troops to poor leadership on the part of the APF and to the role of Turkey. An Iranian semi-official daily even accused the APF leadership of surrendering Shusha in order to prevent Iran from mediating in the conflict.(42) In June 1993, the APF was ousted from power in Baku. Elcibey was replaced by Aliyev, who had become increasingly popular thanks to his ability to keep the peace in Nakhichevan. Aliyev was considered to be clever and experienced enough to understand Iran's concerns in the region and not to challenge its interests.
Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, visited Tabriz - the largest and most important Iranian Azeri city - at the end of July 1993. In order to demonstrate Iran's clear support for the new Azeri leadership, he declared that Iran would not remain indifferent in the face of any further encroachments on Azeri territories, and he attacked Armenian policies: "The government of Armenia and the Armenians of Karabakh are oppressing the Muslims of the region, and we denounce the recent actions by the Armenians of Karabakh who acted with the support of the government of Armenia. We also expect the Armenians in our country to denounce these actions."(43)
Iran made it clear that it would not accept any significant changes in the balance of power in the region. In September 1993, the Armenians launched a new attack on Nakhichevan. At this point, Iranian troops crossed the border with the aim of securing the "jointly managed" dams over the Aras river and establishing several camps for Azeri refugees.(44) Russia immediately responded to this military action. It warned Iran not to intervene in the conflict. The Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman, Grigori Karasin, affirmed in an interview with the press that "special actions by Iran, no matter what the grounds given for them, would not be tolerated by Russia".(45) The Iranian intervention was followed by an expansion of Russia's presence in the Caucasus. Armenia, meanwhile, had to take the Iranian stand into account: the Armenian Foreign Minister wrote to his Iranian counterpart that there would be no more Armenian military operations in Nakhichevan.(46)
Iran, confronted with the problem of having to deal with 200,000 Azeri refugees, continued its mediation efforts. During a visit by the Iranian President to Azerbaijan, a new cease-fire between the parties was announced on 31 October 1993. Armenia and the Armenians of Karabakh, however, affirmed that they had only agreed to this at Iran's insistence(47) and the cease-fire lasted only a few days.
Contested Borders in the Caucasus : Chapter VII
“Boz Qurd” batalyonunun komandiri Qarabağ müharibəsində İranın Azərbaycan ordusuna köməyidən danışıb
Qarabağ müharibəsi zamanı “Boz Qurd” batalyonunun komandiri olmuş Nurəddin Xoca “İnterpress” xəbər agentliyinə müsahibə verib və ermənilərlə müharibədə bir sıra həqiqətlərə toxunub.
Nurəddin Xoca Zəngilan hadisələrini şərh edərkən, məğlubiyyətin əsas səbəbini Ermənistan qüvvələrinin üstünlüyü və Azərbaycanın bir sıra siyasi şəxslərinin təqsiri olduğunu bildirib.
Jurnalistin qonşu ölkələrin Zəngilan hadisələrində rolu və köməyi barədə sualını cavablandıran komandir deyib: “Zəngilan hadisələrində İrandan kömək istədik. Əgər o zaman İranın artileriyası olmasaydı Zəngilan camaatı kütləvi qırğınla üzləşəcəkdi”. Nurəddin Xoca artırıb: “İranın köməyi olmasaydı, Zəngilanda Xocalıdan da böyük bir faciə yaşanacaqdı”.
Xatırladaq ki, keçən il də İran İslam Respublikasının SEPAH komandiri və seçkilərdə 5 milyondan yuxarı səs toplamış prezidentliyə namizəd Möhsin Rizayi Qarabağ müharibəsində İranın Azərbaycana köməklərindən bəzilərinə işarə etmişdi.
Azərbaycan barədə sualı cavablandıran Rizayi demişdi: “Şəxsən özüm tapşırıq vermişdim ki, Qarabağ məntəqəsinin vəziyyəti məlum olana kimi Azərbaycan hərbi qüvvələri lazımı və münasib hərbi təchizatla təmin edilsin və onlara lazım olan hərbi təlimlər keçilsin. Hətta, Azərbaycanın hərbi qüvvələrinə xüsusi təlimlərin keçilməsi barədə tapşırıq vermişdim”.
Habelə, Rizayi “İranın oğullarından çoxu Qarabağ müharibədə iştirak etdi, onlardan şəhid və yaralılananları ölkəyə gətirildi, lakin şəhidlərdən bəziləri də Azərbaycan Respublikasının Bakı şəhərində dəfn edildi”-deyə artırmışdı.
Zəngilan hadisələrində İranın rolu nədən ibarət olub? - QarabaghNews | QarabaghNews
persian translation :
فرمانده گردان "بوزقورد" در جنگ قره باغ از کمک های ایران به ارتش آذربایجان صحبت میکند.
نورالدین خوجا , فرمانده گردان "بوزقورد" در زمان جنگ قره باغ , در مصاحبه ای با آژانس خبری "اینترپرس" یک سری از حقایق جنگ با ارامنه را بیان کرد.
نورالدین خوجا در تشریح حوادث زنگیلان , علت اصلی شکست را مزیت نظامی نیروهای ارمنی و همچنین تقصیرات برخی از سران سیاسی آذربایجان اعلام کرد.
پاسخ های این فرمانده در قبال پرسشهای خبرنگار در مورد نقش کشورهای همسایه در حوادث زنگیلان به این شرح است:
در حوادث زنگیلان از ایران درخواست کمک کردیم. اگر آن زمان آتش توپخانه ارتش ایران نبود مردمان زنگیلان همگی با خطر قتل عام روبرو بودند.
نورالدین خوجا افزود : "اگر کمکهای ایران نبود , در زنگیلان فاجعه ای عظیم تر از خوجالی اتفاق میافتاد."
به خاطر بیاورید که , در انتخابات ریاست جمهوری سال گذشته آقای محسن رضایی فرمانده سابق سپاه پاسداران ایران , که بیش از 5 میلیون رای به دست آورده بود , به برخی از کمکهای ایران به آذربایجان اشاره کرده بود.
رضایی در پاسخ به سوالی درباره آذربایجان گفه بود :
"شخصا دستور داده بودم که , در منطقه قره باغ تا زمانی که وضعیت مشخص شود تجهیزات نظامی مورد نیاز و مناسب برای نیروهای نظامی اذربایجان تامین شود و همچنین آموزشهای نظامی مورد نیاز به آنها داده شود. و حتی دستوراتی در مورد آموزش های ویژه نظامی به نیروهای آذربایجان داده بودم"
همچنین , رضایی افزود , بسیاری از فرزندان ایران در جنگ قره باغ حضور داشتند , بسیاری از آنها شهید یا جانباز به کشور بازگشتند , اما برخی از این شهدا در جمهوری آذربایجان و در شهر باکو دفن شدند.
Iranian president in republic of azerbaijan.
im checking out your media almost everyday, so you tell me why there are lots of lies and hatred against iran after all this? trying to spread negative view among people?
no ones gonna take back anything and everyone respect Independence of your republic. the problem is how some panturks are falsifying history and lies people about their past and iran.
i respect republic of azerbaijan as they are my brothers and sisters and wish best luck for them.
@
Serpentine
من بعد از پستم، پست شما رو دیدم. 2 ساعت داشتم دنبال منابعم می گشتم. لطفا پاک نکن. البته کل کل نکردم و حرف بدی بهشون نزدم. فقط یک سری منابع از حمایت ایران از آذربایجان در جنگ ارائه کردم.
ایران vs آذربایجانی در کار نیست.
به کل کل اینجا ربطی نداره.
حرف دوستی با سند و مدرکه برای کاهش تنش. بالاشون زحمت کشیده شده