Possessing faith (Imaan in your heart) means you have?

[Dubious]

But Muslims majority does

perhaps a difference in "theory" vs. "practical"??????

or maybe understanding....Many dont even understand the meaning of rights...Another portion doesnt give some their rights (tyrants) ....

Imaan which you started the thread with is totally ignored:

that you are filled with positive energy
that you are constantly trying to change yourself for the better
that you are studying new books, new thoughts,
that you are appreciating art, and architecture
that you enjoy music and drama
That you have your creative juices flowing
That you love your fellow human being without hesitation

The highlighted points are not even done at basica level so

forget change for the better when change itself is viewed as an aafat!

For get studying new books when studying itself is none existing

Forget art and architecture when appreciating even the basic human life is ignored

Forget music and drama when enjoyment of anything seems like a sin (except for sin itself of course)
for get without hesitation when the basic principals of love in Islam:

You are not a Muslim if you dont love for your brother what you love for yourself!

 

[Luftwaffe]

But Muslims majority does

perhaps a difference in "theory" vs. "practical"??????

The iman of Israelis is multifold and so is the iman of Christian world look around their butchery and invasion into Islamic world.

You need not blame Majority about killing and blowing...the fact like lie, cheat, steal, rob, rape and other ills of the society are almost in every country and their people do that may it be christians, jews, hindus, Muslims, Buddahs yet majority can't be blamed...you are not going to blame over 1 billion Muslims because of ALQ or boko haram or ISIS or TTP are you?

 

[FaujHistorian]

or maybe understanding....Many dont even understand the meaning of rights..!

You think big name Mullahs and Ayatullahs do not understand Islamic theories

And yet their practices are so horrible.

Do they understand Imaan, do they show they have faith?

Do they give message of hope
or spread conspiracy theories and hopelessness?

 

[Luftwaffe]

You think big name Mullahs and Ayatullahs do not understand Islamic theories

And yet their practices are so horrible.

Do they understand Imaan, do they show they have faith?

Do they give message of hope
or spread conspiracy theories and hopelessness?

Maybe than they don't have iman or weak iman they think they have a certificate from their Lord that they could be taken out of Hell into Heaven after 70,000 Years, I have to agree with you most Mullahs whether arabian, iranains, Pakistanis or generally muslim Mullahs of various sects preach it like Quran's word and my question would be from them where is the certificate. Previously there was a debate on PDF i mentioned it already in our society those who consider themselves authority over Muslims have almost zero contribution except for eating halwa and celebration every few days gone are the days when the muslim rulers or religious so called authority would visit every home ask if community need any help.

 

[Dubious]

You think big name Mullahs and Ayatullahs do not understand Islamic theories
And yet their practices are so horrible.
Do they understand Imaan, do they show they have faith?
Do they give message of hope
or spread conspiracy theories and hopelessness?

I dont indulge in such thinking for they are futile! What the big Mullahs think is not my business but what they preach to stand up against it might be my business ...If like in the Quran they have sold their religion then some of the blame also goes on those who are equally educated to raise awareness not through similar extreme measures and thinking...coz then there is no difference between them and the so called mullahs....

Another problem is also of the people they wish not to search for truth as they believe these people will tell them nothing but truth when Islam clearly says to ponder yourself as well...Fair enough you need a teacher who is a guide but many use them as spoonfeeding devices!

 

[FaujHistorian]

....What the big Mullahs think is not my business but what they preach to stand up against it might be my business ...\

only stand up "against"

or stand up "for" as well?

 

[JonAsad]

Fauji bhai Maybe you should know that people sitting in their homes peacefully working their as s off to feed their family also posses iman- these iman walas are fortunately in majority- you have generalized to much- what you call it rational generalisation or biased generalisation-
I think you are getting passionate going about the recent events- the more passionate you get the more connection with your rational brain you will loose-

 

[Dubious]

only stand up "against"

or stand up "for" as well?

both I stand up against a certain hijacking in the teaching and stand up for the Quran

 

[FaujHistorian]

Fauji bhai Maybe you should know that people sitting in their homes peacefully working their as s off to feed their family also posses iman--

I believe they are represented in the first half of the OP. No?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

heart is a symbol bhai jaan.

you know i wasn't talking about the fistful of muscle inside your chest.

I know, hence the cheeky smiley after my post ...

 

[Jazzbot]

Possessing faith (Iman in your heart) means you have?

you have "hope".

It is cause and effect.

cause is "faith", and effect is hope.


and when you are hopeful then you change from inside out.
that you can be Muslim, Hindu, Christian, a Jew, or Buddhist, that you can have same faith resulting in same hope.

that you are filled with positive energy
that you are constantly trying to change yourself for the better
that you are studying new books, new thoughts,

that you are appreciating art, and architecture
that you enjoy music and drama
That you have your creative juices flowing

That you love your fellow human being without hesitation



or perhaps it is all worthless chatter as written above.

And in reality

An "iman-wala" must go around carrying a big stick, blowing up girls school, shooting girl students in the head
establishing khooni khilafa. lie and cheat, but go to hujj and umra like so many Pakistanis do these days.
that an imaan-wala must believe in conspiracy theories
that an imaan-wala must believe that the whole world is out to destroy him
that an imaan-wala must live in fear.



So what does having Imaan mean in your life.

Please do not quote Quran hadees in a blind copy-n-paste. Share your personal thoughts.

from your heart please. Where faith resides (symbolically).

Happy Ramazan to all.




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All the religions are peaceful in their nature, if some bunch of lunatics misinterprate it and start acting foolishly then those lunatics are to be blamed not the religion.

Possessing faith (imaan) in your heart makes you feel for others, regardless of their religion, sect, cast, nationality, color, region etc.

Our Prophet (peace be upon him) used to help non-muslims when they were in need. Remember an old lady, who abused Prophet Muhammad at his face and said he's a sorcerer. Whoever meets him, starts following him. And while she was saying all this, Prophet Muhammad was carrying her luggage at his own shoulders.

Similarly, remember a women who was a prostitute, and was forgiven by Allah when she offered water and food to a dying dog.

This is what imaan or faith makes you, a perfect human being first of all.

 

[JonAsad]

I believe they are represented in the first half of the OP. No?

They surely are- as long as they form the overwhelming majority the rest should not worry- no one is perfect-

Recently I have seend young israeli teens thretening and spewing their hatred against arabs- yet I see bearded Rabbis raising their voices against israeli prosecution of arabs- I hope you understand that this is my general observation-

 

[Zabaniyah]

Maybe the OP is getting a little too passionate against mongrels like Boka Haram (boka means stupid in Bengali) and ISIS?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

coz the very meaning of introspection is:

the examination or observation of one's own mental and emotional processes. not that of a group of people...just saying...

Actually, "self-introspection" can be used when referring to more than a single individual.

Our identity is typically a sum of experiences and influences, and those 'sums' typically involve being part of the 'identity of successively larger groups that may or may not overlap' - for example:

individual identity = family+biradri+religion+sect+tribe+ethnicity+nationality+life experiences .... (not in any particular order - different people will assign different levels of primacy to the various factors that play into our individual identity)

Given our 'identity matrix', it is relevant to argue for 'self introspection within a larger group' - self introspection amongst Pakistani Muslims for example, or amongst Pakistani deobandi, etc. etc.

 

[Dubious]

Our identity is typically a sum of experiences and influences, and those 'sums' typically involve being part of the 'identity of successively larger groups that may or may not overlap' - for example:
individual identity = family+biradri+religion+sect+tribe+ethnicity+nationality+life experiences .... (not in any particular order - different people will assign different levels of primacy to the various factors that play into our individual identity)
Given our 'identity matrix', it is relevant to argue for 'self introspection within a larger group' - self introspection amongst Pakistani Muslims for example, or amongst Pakistani deobandi, etc. etc.

Fair enough...but one should start from themselves than project maybe?