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Poll : Are you Liberal or Conservative?

Are you liberal or conservative?

  • Liberal

    Votes: 27 73.0%
  • Conservative

    Votes: 7 18.9%
  • Neither

    Votes: 3 8.1%

  • Total voters
    37
so said some people when doing the "sati" burning alive of a dead person's wife in india.
Well, they are Indians, they can send a rocket to Mars but can't provide toilets for over half the population. They are batshit crazy.
 
Liberals : Believe in Freedom of expression and speech, Freedom of religion, carry broad minded views and are open to accept different views/opinions and are tolerant of others religious beliefs. Liberal views on Clothing and life style (for lack of a better phrase; and no I do not mean bikinis) and believe in women's rights.
[PS: Being liberal does not mean being un-Islamic or being Western, one can be pious or traditional without being conservative]
Conservative : Women should only be house wives, intolerant of other's religious beliefs, narrow minded and do not consider western norms and culture an acceptable form of life. May/May not have soft spot for Islamic militants. Usually short tempered too. Frequently refer to Liberals as "Fascists" and Kaafirs. Put religion before national identity (aka "I'm Muslim before Pakistani).
This poll is strictly for Pakistani members, but if you're a badass and don't like to live by the rules, then you can vote too.
BTW, you didnt add LibTaards, exclusive for Indians?
 
Well, they are Indians, they can send a rocket to Mars but can't provide toilets for over half the population. They are batshit crazy.

i was merely pointing to the excuse people give while retaining anti-human traditional cultural practices... don't you have jamaatis in bangladesh who are no different from ram sena and rss??

BTW, you didnt add LibTaards, exclusive for Indians?

aao sanghi aao.
 
aao sanghi aao.
Dont quote me, there is no point in discussion with you.

BTW, how you know I am sanghi? Which I never was, lol, I am even more liberal than you. I again dare you to prove that I am sanghi.
 
i was merely pointing to the excuse people give while retaining anti-human traditional cultural practices... don't you have jamaatis in bangladesh who are no different from ram sena and rss??
Jamaati Islam of today are different than that of 1971, more similar to the Muslim Brotherhood, Hefajot-e-Islam on the other hand is similar to the one you are referring.
Jamaat-e-Islami - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Voted liberal since I tilt towards that direction but its not an issue of black or white as there are important aspects to both ideologies. Having said that though with regards to the definition of the ideologies presented in the OP,the general consensus amongst many Pakistanis from my personal observation regarding "liberalism" is that, a liberal is an individual who disregards his native culture for the benefit of western culture. As a consequence he/she dresses like a westerner, drinks alcohol and is secular (i.e. "not a real believer"). Being called liberal is basically a slur for one has supposedly "sold out" and is trying to act as someone he isnt.

On the other hand many self proclaimed liberals will similarly have a narrowminded approach with regards to who a conservative is. Based on my observation the term"conservative" is also used as a slur by many of these self proclaimed liberals to undermine an individual who refuses to adapt to their "uptown" lifestyle.
 
Liberals : Believe in Freedom of expression and speech, Freedom of religion, carry broad minded views and are open to accept different views/opinions and are tolerant of others religious beliefs. Liberal views on Clothing and life style (for lack of a better phrase; and no I do not mean bikinis) and believe in women's rights.
[PS: Being liberal does not mean being un-Islamic or being Western, one can be pious or traditional without being conservative]
Conservative : Women should only be house wives, intolerant of other's religious beliefs, narrow minded and do not consider western norms and culture an acceptable form of life. May/May not have soft spot for Islamic militants. Usually short tempered too. Frequently refer to Liberals as "Fascists" and Kaafirs. Put religion before national identity (aka "I'm Muslim before Pakistani).
This poll is strictly for Pakistani members, but if you're a badass and don't like to live by the rules, then you can vote too.
i have the characteristics of liberals, but i want to be labelled a conservative, now what?
 
Jamaati Islam of today are different than that of 1971, more similar to the Muslim Brotherhood, Hefajot-e-Islam on the other hand is similar to the one you are referring.
Jamaat-e-Islami - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

the jamaat in bangladesh and the post-1945 ikhwaan ( "muslim" brotherhood ) of africa/syria both come from the same root... the deobandis and tableeghis of india.

mb is a criminal organization who is now conducting a shooting/bombing campaign in egypt, and supported by the western bloc.

Dont quote me, there is no point in discussion with you.

you cannot come on a transnational internet forum and threaten others with "don't quote me".

I am even more liberal than you.

in what way??
 
mb is a criminal organization who is now conducting a shooting/bombing campaign in egypt, and supported by the western bloc.
Muslim Brotherhood don't have a MIlitary wing and Sisi is putting anyone who opposes him in prison. Egypt were at war with many rebel groups in the Sinai Peninsula before and during the time or Morsi.
 
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