Poland says cannot accept migrants under EU quotas after Paris attacks

[flamer84]

lol, bro U.S doesn't have any "influence" on Congo...does it matter?

In international system, only thing that matters is 'power'...Turkey doesn't have to have day to day influence on Eastern Europe. It just have to get acknowledged as the superpower of the region that nobody openly challenges or comes in their way. And that is the case. Even Greece, yes Greece--who used to challenge Turkey all the time previously--now just sits back and lets Turkey do its stuff. Power of Turks is acknowledged and felt throughout the region. Turkey is key for Europe to have any influence or role beyond their borders in Central Asia, Anatolia, Middle-East etc. And Europeans recognize this (I was just reading an article by EU expert who acknowledged this fact and said without Turkey, Europe just becomes a non-player in Middle-East, Central-Asian/Anatolian region.)

Moreover, Turkey also controls/will control major energy routes of Europe in future AND they are expanding their naval power to the extent where they will have the reach till shores of UK and would be able to operate thousands of miles away from their base..

Turkey will make sure that Eastern Europe doesn't go the extremist way and there is no power in the region that seeks of repeat the holocaust but this time with Muslims. Any lunatic state like that would be absolutely decimated by Turkey and allies without it even starts anything.

And with Western Europe being stable, progressive, and sane...future of Europe looks diverse, multicultural, and European Islam is poised to continue its rise in future as well.

You're day dreaming.Turkish-Greek jets still hassle each other over the Aegean,ISIS commits terror acts in Turkey altough they have a common border,Syrians down Turkish jets,etc.You're living a dream.

As for Turkish intervention in Eastern Europe,lol,they can't even stop Turkmen persecution in Syria/Irak.They would be squashed if they set foot in EE.EE is part of the EU,it's Europe,stop smoking stuff,nobody cares about Turkey.nor do they have any influence in here.

What are you,12 ?

 

[The Vicious Kind]

They can sit in Turkey (with EU financial aid). By law, the moment they leave Turkey they're not refugees.

Alternatively, they can fix their own mess in their home countries (and blaming EU/USA/NATO for all that's happening makes them look like easily influenced children at best, retards at worst. In either cases not fit to have a country, which in practice they don't have anyway).

4 million are already in Turkey and Jordan. They cannot possibly take more. The conflict is in its 5th year now , many of these refugees were from the middle class and they cannot simply live in tents for the rest of their lives. Now that the EU is actively involved in the Syrian conflict i.e directly bombing IS cities, it must share the responsibility of accommodating refugees despite all odds. This is a matter of principle. In case of refugees coming from Libya , well you know how they say "You broke it , You fix it"

 

[Audio]

lol, bro U.S doesn't have any "influence" on Congo...does it matter?

In international system, only thing that matters is 'power'...Turkey doesn't have to have day to day influence on Eastern Europe. It just have to get acknowledged as the superpower of the region that nobody openly challenges or comes in their way. And that is the case. Even Greece, yes Greece--who used to challenge Turkey all the time previously--now just sits back and lets Turkey do its stuff. Power of Turks is acknowledged and felt throughout the region. Turkey is key for Europe to have any influence or role beyond their borders in Central Asia, Anatolia, Middle-East etc. And Europeans recognize this (I was just reading an article by EU expert who acknowledged this fact and said without Turkey, Europe just becomes a non-player in Middle-East, Central-Asian/Anatolian region.)

Moreover, Turkey also controls/will control major energy routes of Europe in future AND they are expanding their naval power to the extent where they will have the reach till shores of UK and would be able to operate thousands of miles away from their base..

Turkey will make sure that Eastern Europe doesn't go the extremist way and there is no power in the region that seeks of repeat the holocaust but this time with Muslims. Any lunatic state like that would be absolutely decimated by Turkey and allies without it even starts anything.

And with Western Europe being stable, progressive, and sane...future of Europe looks diverse, multicultural, and European Islam is poised to continue its rise in future as well.

Turkey this, Turkey that, Turkey here, Turkey there, Turkey everywhere....

It is a nascent dictatorship in the making (Sultan went to war to force 2nd round of elections which benefited his party, with whose help he will now cement power in his hands/largest number of journalists in prison), with no products to speak of to put it out of the middle income trap (BEKO only?) and a dormant civil war (20% Kurds, whole eastern Turkey) which is at it's closest to reigniting after the truce between Turkey and PKK (Ocalan) Plus it's bordering the Middle East, a synonim for instability.
Yes, Turkey most likely has a role in the future of EU as geography and ties would dictate it to, however nowhere near the role of some Messiah you are trying to paint them. I doubt they see themselves in a role you see them in also.

Your fanboyish enthusiasm is getting tiresome, you don't have all info to form such opinions, merely wishes based on linearity of growth which doesn't exist anymore which was (still is, just less) in itself fueled by credit from GCC banks (as they try to diversify desperately, knowing their oil fortunes are worth less and less every day) as Erdogan sought to find best chums in Qatar (MB connection) and KSA (just rich).

Paradoxically, here, credit seems to be rising but growth seems to be trending downwards as Sultan's government tries to offload sovereign credit through increased taxes intake earned by a boom in consumer credit and associated spending.


This is all probably way over your head (i can literally see you cringing with this dose of reality), so, will stop here...and Turks, no offense, but objectivity matters in such discussions. I still like you for the most part.

Europe is a multicultural, multireligious, diverse continent. And Europe should continue on this path Public opinion can take a rest....

No expert here, but that sounds fascist to me.

 

[bobo6661]

Turkey this, Turkey that, Turkey here, Turkey there, Turkey

Oh stop im hungry now

The new government didn't like the refuge coming in but couldn't do much about it so after the attack on France they got a reason to do something about them.

 

[Jlaw]

LOL I guess you are weaklings as well.
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If EU did not let in some many muslims and other unwanted foreigners but accepted the cash rich HK people with BNA passport in '97, would they be in the same shape they are in now? Would all these attacks will happen?

 

[saiyan0321]

Cant really blame Poland or anybother European nation that calls it quits since they have every right to defend their nations against any perceived threat. IRS impossible to check if the refugee entering the nation is actually in need or working for isis or sympathetic towards isis.... It creates a threat. As we talk about mining, fencing, trenching and placing sentinals in our western border they too think in the same lines..

The Paris attack will have such an effect and , God I hope not, if such attacks happen a few more times then we may witness an expulsion of all migrants. I can't blame Poland here.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Dear friend...the point is if the local cuture of the land is happy with showing skin, then there is the culure of the land...Who are we people to criticize them??...At the end of the day, no one can question if your local culture requires your women to be wearing Burkha..Every one should respect the culture of your country...

You guys always think religion supersedes the culure..that is where the clash always happens...But at the end of the day, culture always dominates the religion...If if Europe cultures stands for clothing that shows skin according to you, then Muslims are welcome to migrate to Pakistan or Gulf countries..No one stops then but it is suprising that Muslims expect that everyone should change becasue they think they are supreme...

Think Practically, when some one goes to Gulf countries, they should follow tradition of Gulf countries...Why this simple concept is not being understood by Muslim people....

Fair point. The locals should not have to change, we should respect their culture for hosting us. These are their countries, they have centuries old unique cultures, some Muslim communities in the West have acted in a unjust way towards the local people. The behaviours of some Muslims are horrible, they call them dirty kafirs with no self respect etc but are more then ready to live off welfare benefits from the same tax payers whom they call filthy.

PS some Syrians are batshit crazy. way more radicalised then Pakistanis. UK government should be careful in who they let in.

 

[-SINAN-]

Prohibit the building of mosques in the UK - Petitions


Huhuhu...quite radical.

Also to @mike2000 is back

I want to ask, does your government appoint Imams to the mosques in your country ? How is that process ?

 

[bsruzm]

Turkey this, Turkey that, Turkey here, Turkey there, Turkey everywhere....

I am afraid you will have to get used to it

 

[-SINAN-]

It is a nascent dictatorship in the making (Sultan went to war to force 2nd round of elections which benefited his party, with whose help he will now cement power in his hands/largest number of journalists in prison),

If you are talking about Army vs PKK clashes. PKK started it by shooting two police officers while they were sleeping in their homes. PKK owned the killings.

with no products to speak of to put it out of the middle income trap (BEKO only?)

Government is giving great importance to R&D in these matters. (Indigenous airliner, Indigenous car, etc.. are on the way)

and a dormant civil war (20% Kurds, whole eastern Turkey) which is at it's closest to reigniting after the truce between Turkey and PKK (Ocalan)

We killed 2500+ terrorists in 3 months. Operations will extend to Iraq in winter.

Closest thing to a civil war happened in 1937 In Tunceli. Dersim massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is not a subject but after that incident, nobody tried another revolt.

Plus it's bordering the Middle East, a synonim for instability.

Yeah, economic loses......

Turks, no offense, but objectivity matters in such discussions. I still like you for the most part.

I very much like your avatar.

 

[xenon54 out]

If you are talking about Army vs PKK clashes. PKK started it by shooting two police officers while they were sleeping in their homes. PKK owned the killings.



Government is giving great importance to R&D in these matters. (Indigenous airliner, Indigenous car, etc.. are on the way)

We killed 2500+ terrorists in 3 months. Operations will extend to Iraq in winter.

Closest thing to a civil war happened in 1937 In Tunceli. Dersim massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is not a subject but after that incident, nobody tried another revolt.


Yeah, economic loses......


I very much like your avatar.

Dude instead of mentioning the wanna be indigenous car you should have mentioned that a big part of home electronics and electronics like Fridges and Washing Mashines etc in Europe are being produces in Turkey.

Still we need high tech or we are doomed to stay a middle income country.

 

[-SINAN-]

Dude instead of mentioning the wanna be indigenous car you should have mentioned that a big part of home electronics and electronics like Fridges and Washing Mashines etc in Europe are being produces in Turkey.

Mate, my point is... we are targeting more technological stuff.

Still we need high tech or we are doomed to stay a middle income country.

I'm following the twitter account of Ministry of Industry.

They are doing good things. Sanayi Bakanlığı (@TCSanayi) | Twitter[/QUOTE]

 

[mike2000 is back]

If EU did not let in some many muslims and other unwanted foreigners but accepted the cash rich HK people with BNA passport in '97, would they be in the same shape they are in now? Would all these attacks will happen?

Agree, reason i said to @Penguin in another thread(where he was trying to use S.Korea as an example by comparing a S.Korean western born person with a muslim western born immigrant from the middle east) on here that East Asians are by far the most law abiding, peaceful, respectful, hard working immigrants in the west, in short they are a model of what an immigrant should be as they respect the law of the land. Reason, i have said time and time again that will prefer an East Asian to immigrate here anyday over an islamist. There is no comparison between the two AT ALL.

So yes i hate to admit that you are right, if we had let just hong kongers here instead of these extremist scums we will NEVER BE FACING SUCH AN ISSUE., since they respect/admire our culture and way of life and want to contribute and be part of it, contrary to muslim extremists/radicals who hate everything the west stands for(but wont go back to their ummah countries for some reason. Lol). They are the BIGGEST HYPOCRITES YOU CAN FIND IN THIS WORLD.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Good for Poland. These Europeans were stupid to take in boat loads of immigrants from these warzones from the very beginning.

 

[AugenBlick]

Oh stop im hungry now

The new government didn't like the refuge coming in but couldn't do much about it so after the attack on France they got a reason to do something about them.

Bro your country is awesome (Poland) . I was their for just a week OMG.
Don't let terrorist invaders ruin it.