PM Imran Khan rules out backing militants in Kashmir

[CIA Mole]

Well Indian CEO's in West is a phenomenon that became prominent in recent times because the Investment firms in USA , headed by certain lobbies wanted closer relations with Indians (Against US long term interest)

So what these Investment firms did (who hold many shares) is they announced their own choices in elections to bring a Indian guy and make him CEO of USA firms.

Ironically US political game ensures that no outside country can invest in US corporations without Congress getting involved so smart people should know which political entity is presently manipulating the US corporation landscape

The secondary move was that many of these corporations moved their Jobs overseas during last 18 years and while locally at home they were not hiring , the executive decisions were facilitated by Indian CEO's , CFO's in Director roles to Outsource or move jobs overseas

The people who got appointed were nothing extra ordinary the major characteristic of Indian CEO/CFO is they kill good jobs , and reduce salaries and then finally make case for moving jobs to India when companies start struggling

This idealogy of outsourcing itself is against Donald Trump's own political mandate for keeping jobs local

I see, I missed that perspective.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

But you are 100% correct about India being a shit hole

• Rape
• Every Indian firm has special Rape training , saying hello to female worker leads to rape
• For any foreign person they first thing they will realize is amount of Harassment training and rape cases and training in Indian firms
• Majority of Data breaches and Data leaks some where down the line Indians are involved in such leaks or credit card data being stolen

 

[R Wing]

Good to show the world we wont...
Israeli strategy..
Keep the innocent card playing and do what you need to

Hope is a wonderful thing. Unfortunately, our sell-out and ball-less leaders across the spectrum aren't inspiring much of it.

I said the same exact thing a couple of days ago. They have revealed their desperation with this haste move and nothing more.

Nothing more? They have imposed a total black out and are killing and maiming the innocent occupied population at will! And all we can do is offer them empty words.

Pakistan must pass an act to integrate IOK with Azad Kashmir in line with the wishes of the People of Kashmir. That's the only way Indian Occupation of Kashmir will be controversial.

Definitely. But clearly nobody has a brain in the PMO and GHQ --- and perhaps they lost their balls somewhere in the States.

Salaam

Supporting nonstate actors hasn't helped too much. However, what other optiibs remain? Something along the lines of operation Gibraltar? Maybe a hybrid of some sort.

I certainly hope that we aren't going to wholly rely on the hope that the 'international community' acts to save kashmiris.

What if the Indians don't attack Pakistan, and just concentrate on desimating Kashmiris? There must come a point where something would need to be done. At the that point, what would we do?

I hope our strategic planners will use all possible options that help in achieving our objectives. Pakistan cannot afford to fight a larger more powerful enemy with self-imposed handicaps. I hope if an option is left out, it shouls be because it will not add a net benefit to our war effort.




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Clearly you have bought into the Western (and Indian) narrative that "non state actors" have yielded no strategic gain. First of all, both the Afghan Taliban and the Kashmiri resistance are legitimate insurgencies fighting against invaders and occupiers. The former frustrated NATO and kept Afghanistan from turning into an Indian FOB against Pakistan and the latter keeps 600,000 Indian security forces bogged down in IOK and unavailable for any misadventures against Pakistan.

However, I TOTALLY agree with everything else you've said --- and "hope" is not something you should keep for our strategic planners who seem to be drunk on American praise and promises and nothing else.

Kashmiris are being massacred, raped by drunk soldiers and disappeared and all we can do is give them empty words of support and chase useless diplomatic ends (UN, OIC, etc., all of whom have done and will do nothing for us.) Pathetic.

The narrative, established by PMIK, is the need of the time. Only thing is that it shall be persistently pursued and kept alive. I am certain that in the coming days, India would also give us lot of opportunities to forward this narrative.

Sir, you are usually much more perceptive! This narrative is USELESS because nobody WANTS to believe it. Most of the Western world sees India as a huge market (arms and otherwise) and as a viable buffer to growing Chinese influence in the reason. They have absolutely no incentive to take any action based on our narrative.

The ONLY thing that will help the occupied Kashmiris is training and weapons to defend their lives and their honor.

i think first of all freedom fighters are not militants and calling them a militant is big blunder of ik.We should fully back and support freedom fighters and u.s and other western countries have done this openly in lybia and Syria and no one in u.n raised question on their support to those militias

Totally agree.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Kashmiri Resident's struggle is an App-laudable cause , run by brave residents of Land who want freedom

They are not Militant , the militant force is Indian Forces who use weapons to lock down whole province and deny them their legitimate right to wave the Pakistani Flag over their homes and celebrate 14th August independence day with Pakistan

As a Pakistani , I feel Pakistan providing self defense articles for Pakistani Citizens in Kashmir is a proper and correct thing to do

• Issuance of Passport (Pakistan / Kashmiri Golden Passport)
• Issuance of Self Defence Training
• Logistical Support
• Providing of Rifles , Automatic / Semi
• Sniper Gear
• Anti Tank Ammunition
• Surface to Air Missiles

All these are acceptable


Pakistan should have a formal Designation of Kashmir Sovereignty Force build up of 100% Kashmiri Youth , to help Liberate Kashmiri full funded and Supported by Pakistan

 

[Tom M]

i think first of all freedom fighters are not militants and calling them a militant is big blunder of ik.We should fully back and support freedom fighters and u.s and other western countries have done this openly in lybia and Syria and no one in u.n raised question on their support to those militias

Lybia?? Thank god you didn't wrote Labia.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

For Pakistan Full Unconditional Support for Khalistani Movement and Bilateral Agreements with Sikh is 100% must and also Full Unconditional Support for Kashmiri

• Khalistan State Zindabad
• Kashmir Zindabad

 

[shah_123]

Than PM Imran Khan must show some courage and do the job through Army.-- - so far, it's just statements, statements & statements.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Imran Khan should bring back General Raheel Sharif and appoint him as a Minister of Defence and close Advisor (24/7)


Simple what needs to be done

 

[Rusty]

Hey remember when a building catches on fire, the best strategy is for everyone to run into the building with no plan......

You people calling for immediate action need to relax. This is chess, we need to carefully think and plan every move.

Running into Kashmir is going to do nothing.

 

[SIPRA]

Sir, you are usually much more perceptive! This narrative is USELESS because nobody WANTS to believe it. Most of the Western world sees India as a huge market (arms and otherwise) and as a viable buffer to growing Chinese influence in the reason. They have absolutely no incentive to take any action based on our narrative.

You are perfectly right. But, Pakistan is compelled to act within the constraints of the circumstances. In any case, I believe that the resolution of Kashmir issue lies in certain unforeseen scenarios, which we wouldn't be able to fathom, for now. This is what I have learnt from reading of history.

 

[IbnAbdullah]

Salaam

No Dava is complete without Kurban...

One of the most important things that should be understood by all those who wish to achieve anything worthwhile.

 

[1Paki$tani]

Go see the data yourself
Who is Google CEO, Microsoft
And other silicon valley firms

Look who is cheif Economist of IMF

Dude Ivy League Stats put Asian Students ( that includes Indians) at about 14%.

 

[Rakesh]

Kashmiri Resident's struggle is an App-laudable cause , run by brave residents of Land who want freedom

They are not Militant , the militant force is Indian Forces who use weapons to lock down whole province and deny them their legitimate right to wave the Pakistani Flag over their homes and celebrate 14th August independence day with Pakistan

As a Pakistani , I feel Pakistan providing self defense articles for Pakistani Citizens in Kashmir is a proper and correct thing to do

• Issuance of Passport (Pakistan / Kashmiri Golden Passport)
• Issuance of Self Defence Training
• Logistical Support
• Providing of Rifles , Automatic / Semi
• Sniper Gear
• Anti Tank Ammunition
• Surface to Air Missiles

All these are acceptable


Pakistan should have a formal Designation of Kashmir Sovereignty Force build up of 100% Kashmiri Youth , to help Liberate Kashmiri full funded and Supported by Pakistan

Is this for real ? Pakistan does not have any such policy, I mean for sake of discussion also.

 

[313ghazi]

He said nothing of the sort. What kind of re-hashed logic is this?

 

[VCheng]

Prime Minister Imran Khan on Thursday ruled out supporting militant groups as an option in the wake of India’s illegal annexation of Kashmir, saying that doing so would be detrimental to the cause.

So after ruling out war as an option, supporting "militant groups" is not one either. Interesting that he used that term and not freedom fighters.