PM calls for an end to caste-based politics, says Eastern India must progress fast

[gslv]

Brahmins mainly are financially sound because they are employed in majority as all the puja's in temples and houses is normally done by Brahmins.

What Anil Ambani has to do in here ?

i took him as an example. if brahmin are finacially sound so do SC ST officers . why do the later people need reservation. why do a professor needs reservation for his son? if a person earning 2 lakhs per month needs reservation , then what crime a 5000 salary earning so called brahmin did?

 

[wolfschanzze]

Even you know that majority of Indians live in rural areas and the situation needs to change over there and majority of those who got reservation in education and jobs from the SC, ST and BC comes from the rural areas to Urban areas.

SC, ST and BC all are from Indian Tribes and i cant understand when we all know that those people are socially backward then why should we need to make any issue.

Reservation is already being given on the financial and economical status to majority of Indians and its different in state to state according the situation.

Give Economic Reservation based on the condition of the family, nobody is objecting to that.There are many Familes from Forward Castes who live in abject poverty,while many Ministers in OBC,SC/ST bracket who are Millionaires and still enjoy Reservation quotas,isn't that hypocrisy?
I don't see any Reservations based on Financial and Economical status in any states of Bharat.Especially not in AP and Telangana though.

Brahmins mainly are financially sound because they are employed in majority as all the puja's in temples and houses is normally done by Brahmins.

What Anil Ambani has to do in here ?

Nope they are not sound, Most of the Brahmins in the Priestly class are paid a meagre 1500 rupees per month as salary in Temples in that he has to run a home, family and save for his children education, Marriage etc. In a city like Hyderabad a single person cannot live if he doesn't earn less than 5000-7000 per month,forget paying for the rent and taking care of family.
That is the reality.
The picture you paint of Bhramins being well off is not correct.
This is the same case for Most forward caste families too.

 

[Hindustani78]

i took him as an example. if brahmin are finacially sound so do SC ST officers . why do the later people need reservation. why do a professor needs reservation for his son? if a person earning 2 lakhs per month needs reservation , then what crime a 5000 salary earning so called brahmin did?

Why dont you see here in terms of Population ? What is the Population of SC, ST ?

 

[gslv]

Why dont you see here in terms of Population ? What is the Population of SC, ST ?

what population bullshit , they have 40% population in my state and being given 40% quota , brahmins have 5% lets give poor brahmins 5% quota too. its not that SC ST are 100 % and have to live off 1% quota .

 

[nair]

Since when?I was not aware of it happening.

If you are not aware then it is good....

 

[wolfschanzze]

If you are not aware then it is good....

I want you to make me aware of what is Religious Politcs?Please explain.

 

[Hindustani78]

Give Economic Reservation based on the condition of the family, nobody is objecting to that.There are many Familes from Forward Castes who live in abject poverty,while many Ministers in OBC,SC/ST bracket who are Millionaires and still enjoy Reservation quotas,isn't that hypocrisy?
I don't see any Reservations based on Financial and Economical status in any states of Bharat.Especially not in AP and Telangana though.

But those forward caste families do get benefits under BPL schemes. Because of some you cant deny the reservation for those who are in millions who really need upliftment.

Nope they are not sound, Most of the Brahmins in the Priestly class are paid a meagre 1500 rupees per month as salary in Temples in that he has to run a home and family and save for his children education and Marriage etc. In a city like Hyderabad a single person cannot live if he doesn't earn less than 5000-7000 per month,forget paying for the rent and taking care of family.
That is the reality.
The picture you paint of Bhramins being well off is not correct.
This is the same case for Most forward caste families too.

Brahmins are mainly part of all the temple committees and we cant deny that the amount of funds which temples do get in our country its in hundreds of Crores and there are schemes within the temples to uplift all the committee members including the Brahmins and seperate from this even like all even Brahmins can get benefits under BPL schemes.

Are you saying that they are no schemes in Temple Committees which is there to uplift families who are in need ?

what population bullshit , they have 40% population in my state and being given 40% quota , brahmins have 5% lets give poor brahmins 5% quota too. its not that SC ST are 100 % and have to live off 1% quota .

You are from which State ?

 

[gslv]

You are from which State ?

doe it matter , i am saying they are getting proportionate quota 40% for 40% population . so no they are not cramped under 10% . i belong to odisha . 40% quota . the condition is same in all states . same quota as percentage population.

 

[Hindustani78]

doe it matter , i am saying they are getting proportionate quota 40% for 40% population . so no they are not cramped under 10% . i belong to odisha . 40% quota . the condition is same in all states . same quota as percentage population.

Now i have understood that you are talking about the recent raise of Reservation for ST and SC students in Odisha.
Reservation ratio of SC, ST students raised by Odisha government | Zee News
April 29, 2015
Bhubaneswar: Odisha government on Wednesday raised the reservation ratio for students belonging to schedule tribe and scheduled caste in educational institutions to 38.75 per cent from 20 per cent.

While only eight per cent of the seats were earlier reserved for the SC candidates in educational institutions, now they would avail 16.25 per cent of seats in any college.

Similarly, the ratio of reservation for ST students was enhanced to 22.5 per cent from 12 per cent.


ST & SC Development, Monorities & Backward Classes Welfare Department:: Government of Odisha
The State of Odisha occupies an important place in the country having a high concentration of Scheduled Tribe and Scheduled Caste population. As per the latest 2011 census, it is ranked third (numerically) in terms of ST population whereas its position is eleventh (numerically) in terms of SC population in the country. Scheduled Tribes and Scheduled Castes together constitute nearly 40% of the State’s Total Population (S.Ts 22.85% and S.Cs 17.13%). The population of Scheduled Tribes and Scheduled Castes is as follows :
TOTAL POPULATION 4,19,74,218
SCHEDULED TRIBES (S.T.) POPULATION 95,90,756
SCHEDULED CASTE (S.C.) POPULATION 71,88,463
PERCENTAGE OF S.T. POPULATION 22.85
PERCENTAGE OF S.C. POPULATION 17.13
S.T. COMMUNITIES 62
S.C. COMMUNITIES 93
SCHEDULED AREAS IN ODISHA

 

[gslv]

Now i have understood that you are talking about the recent raise of Reservation for ST and SC students in Odisha.
Reservation ratio of SC, ST students raised by Odisha government | Zee News
April 29, 2015
Bhubaneswar: Odisha government on Wednesday raised the reservation ratio for students belonging to schedule tribe and scheduled caste in educational institutions to 38.75 per cent from 20 per cent.

While only eight per cent of the seats were earlier reserved for the SC candidates in educational institutions, now they would avail 16.25 per cent of seats in any college.

Similarly, the ratio of reservation for ST students was enhanced to 22.5 per cent from 12 per cent.

so no, they are not under represented . meanwhile many get by general quota too . so they are over represented. its based on population statics . can you quote me a link where it says a quota for poor forward caste person in any state ?

 

[Hindustani78]

Odisha to increase seats in government colleges by 20 percent | Business Standard News
May 13, 2015

Odisha Higher Education Minister Pradeep Panigrahi on Wednesday said the state government has taken an in-principle decision to increase the number of seats in government colleges by 20 percent from the current academic session.

The decision means about one lakh more seats in +2 and +3 colleges, said Panigrahi.

The minister said it would help the students wanting to pursue higher education in government colleges.

The decision has been necessitated by a higher pass percentage in this year's matriculation examination, he said.

Meanwhile, the government has decided to offer Bachelor of Education and Master of Education courses in 29 government colleges and six universities in Odisha from 2016-17 to address the huge shortage of trained teachers in the state.


Odisha to increase 1,035 more seats in 5 Government engineering colleges, VSSUT, Odisha Current News, Odisha Latest Headlines
Tuesday, March 17, 2015
Odisha Government decided to increase 1,035 more seats in five Government engineering colleges and Vir Surendra Sai University of Technology (VSSUT) in Burla on Monday.

These five engineering colleges are the Keonjhar Government College of Engineering in Keonjhar, Kalahandi Government Engineering College in Kalahandi, College of Engineering and Technology (CET) in Bhubaneswar, Parala Maharaja Engineering College in Gajapati and Indira Gandhi Institute of Technology (IGIT), Sarang in Dhenkanal district.

The seats would be increased in the BTech, MTech, MSc and Integrated Dual Degree (IDD) courses. The Government also decided to allow the students to take admission in the additional seats from the current academic session.


Now see the situation regarding the vacant seats .

Odisha to reform high school education system - The Hindu
BHUBANESWAR, June 22, 2014

In 2012-13 academic session, while 22,570 students took admissions in engineering (B.Tech) programme, 21,672 remained vacant. In the subsequent year (2013-14), situation worsened with less number of students opted engineering programme. Out of total 45,844 intake capacity in engineering programme, 21,998 students joined the programme while 23,846 seats had no takers.

Contrary to the demand of promoters of private engineering colleges for greater autonomy in admission process, the minister informed, “to fill up vacant seats, counselling is done in different phases and regular public announcements are put out in newspapers and electronic media to inform students. Hence, the need for changing the existing counselling process has not been felt.”