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Physicists have devised a new experiment to test if the universe is a computer.

A philosophical thought experiment has long held that it is more likely than not that we're living inside a machine.

The theory basically goes that any civilisation which could evolve to a 'post-human' stage would almost certainly learn to run simulations on the scale of a universe. And that given the size of reality - billions of worlds, around billions of suns - it is fairly likely that if this is possible, it has already happened.

And if it has? Well, then the statistical likelihood is that we're located somewhere in that chain of simulations within simulations. The alternative - that we're the first civilisation, in the first universe - is virtually (no pun intended) absurd.

And it's not just theory. We previously reported that researchers at the University of Bonn in Germany had found evidence the Matrix was less than fiction. That story was by far our most popular of the year ( IS this what they call Maya , according to Hinduism )- indicating it's something about which you lot have wondered too.

Now another team have devised an actual test to see if this theory holds any hope of being proven.

Professor Martin Savage at the University of Washington says while our own computer simulations can only model a universe on the scale of an atom's nucleus, there are already "signatures of resource constraints" which could tell us if larger models are possible.

This is where it gets complex.

Essentially, Savage said that computers used to build simulations perform "lattice quantum chromodynamics calculations" - dividing space into a four-dimensional grid. Doing so allows researchers to examine the force which binds subatomic particles together into neutrons and protons - but it also allows things to happen in the simulation, including the development of complex physical "signatures", that researchers don't program directly into the computer. In looking for these signatures, such as limitations on the energy held by cosmic rays, they hope to find similarities within our own universe.

And if such signatures do appear in both? Boot up, baby. We're inside a computer. (Maybe).

"If you make the simulations big enough, something like our universe should emerge," Savage told the University of Washington news service.

Zohreh Davoudi, one of Savage's students, goes further:

"The question is, 'Can you communicate with those other universes if they are running on the same platform?," she said.

Now that would be a long-distance phone call.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...niversity-of-washington-matrix_n_2282745.html


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In short...my head is hurting thinking about this



@KRAIT , @Chinese-Dragon
 
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Atleast he is trying to Verify what he believes in and will try to quantify it scientifically and on failing will relinquish this thought .

Religion on the other hand

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What we are suppose to be ? some damn Marios Brothers. Haven't heard of something this ridiculous in a while.
 
What we are suppose to be ? some damn Marios Brothers. Haven't heard of something this ridiculous in a while.

Not Related to this thread but do read about "God Gene" .
 
:rofl: :rofl: someone is living in Hollywood movies :rofl:

What we are suppose to be ? some damn Marios Brothers. Haven't heard of something this ridiculous in a while.

I wish you both had studied some philosophy, and may be then you won't find this concept so trivial or ridiculous.

Rene Descartes' statement "I think, therefore, I am" relates to the same question. The psychological capacity of Decartes to "doubt" (it is 'doubt' in his statement, not 'think', as famously, but mistakenly quoted) his existence was what convinced him that we are not a 'dream' or a 'simulation' of higher beings that actually exist, when we don't.

In the 20th century, it was the discovery of miniscule probability of asymmetry of this universe at its conception, followed by Hubble's discovery of expansion (What Einstein called Cosmological constant), that prompted philosophers and physicists to do a rethink on why our universe took the exact precise path that ensured our existence.

This idea simply challenges the basic philosophy of all religions that state that we are indeed blessed with a free will. Of course, fatalists have always claimed that past and future both are already written and we are incapable of deviating from whatever is written there.
 
I wish you both had studied some philosophy, and may be then you won't find this concept so trivial or ridiculous.

Rene Descartes' statement "I think, therefore, I am" relates to the same question. The psychological capacity of Decartes to "doubt" (it is 'doubt' in his statement, not 'think', as famously, but mistakenly quoted) his existence was what convinced him that we are not a 'dream' or a 'simulation' of higher beings that actually exist, when we don't.

In the 20th century, it was the discovery of miniscule probability of asymmetry of this universe at its conception, followed by Hubble's discovery of expansion (What Einstein called Cosmological constant), that prompted philosophers and physicists to do a rethink on why our universe took the exact precise path that ensured our existence.

This idea simply challenges the basic philosophy of all religions that state that we are indeed blessed with a free will. Of course, fatalists have always claimed that past and future both are already written and we are incapable of deviating from whatever is written there.
@Not Sure in today's world of science and technology, philosophy doesnt rule too much...Besides if it were a computer simulation, that is 1 mega computer and 2ndly, simulations would have short comings...
 
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On macro scale, University does sync with a simulation. If i remember correctly, few years ago Biologists made a computer simulation about behavior of life in micro scale, and it's characters in packed environment and in isolation.
 
@Not Sure in today's world of science and technology, philosophy doesnt rule too much...Besides if it were a computer simulation, that is 1 mega computer and 2ndly, simulations would have short comings...

Actually, the quest to learn about the universe began with philosophy. However, the speculations and opinions had to be removed, and it became an exact science, that all could agree upon.

For example, Zeno, in 5th century BC, put forth a philosophical question whether time is absolute and whether it is continuous, or comes in parts. That question was answered in 20th century by Einstein, that it is not absolute, and by Planck, that everything behaves like stuff and can be broken down to elementary units.

While we are just at the dawn of advancement in computers, and we already are working on quantum computers. Those who may have lived as civilized beings for a billion years, we cannot even conceive what they may be capable of. So their's may not be a mega one, rather a yotta computer.
 
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