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For the first time since the private sector was allowed into defence production in 2001, a defence minister has met private sector defence CEOs face-to-face to discuss the role they could play in boosting defence production in India.

On Saturday, at the Taj Vivanta Hotel in Goa, Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar - alone, except for a personal secretary - met for three hours captains of private defence industry. Not one of his ministry's five secretary-level officers was in attendance. Nor was anyone from the public sector invited.

Major issues discussed included the 'Make' category of procurement; ways of harnessing micro, small and medium enterprises (SMEs); and boosting defence exports.

Industrialists who flew down to Goa for the meeting included Baba Kalyani from the Kalyani Group, and the defence vertical chiefs of Bharat Forge, Larsen & Toubro, Tata Advanced Systems, Godrej & Boyce, Ashok Leyland, Punj Lloyd, Alpha Design Technologies, Zen Technologies, Data Patterns and Pipavav Shipyard. Local Goa group, Dempo, also sent a representative.

The meeting was organised by the Confederation of Indian Industry.

Business Standard was briefed on the meeting by three CEOs who attended it. All of them agree that after 13 years of operating from the sidelines under three successive defence ministers - George Fernandes of the National Democratic Alliance; and Pranab Mukherjee and A K Antony of the United Progressive Alliance -Parrikar's readiness to interact face-to-face is an encouraging indicator of change.

"We spoke frankly and Parrikar listened carefully, interjected frequently and took notes during the meeting. For the first time in a decade, we (private sector defence companies) believe we will be allowed to use our capabilities in the defence of India," says H S Shankar, who attended the meeting as chief of defence electronics company Alpha Design Technologies.

A central issue discussed was the "Make" procedure, which was devised to allow private companies a larger role in designing and building defence equipment, with the ministry of defence (MoD) reimbursing 80 per cent of the development cost. However, since the "Make" procedure was instituted in 2008, not a single project in this category has been successfully floated by the MoD.

A new "Make" procedure has been in the pipeline for years, but there is little consensus on its form, even among the private industry. Parrikar indicated the new procedure would be finalised by end-January.

Industry representatives suggested that no programmes be tendered under the "Make" procedure until there was clarity on its final form. They cautioned it was very different from the prime minister's (PM's) "Make in India" initiative, which is about boosting manufacture. The "Make" procedure, in contrast, is about developing design capability and intellectual property (IP) in the country.

Parrikar requested CII for a note that explained IP issues, including the critical issue of who should own the IP generated through the "Make" procedure - the company that generated it, or the MoD which paid for it.

Zen Technologies proposed that the MoD should not accept low indigenous content of 30-50 per cent, which the current Defence Procurement Procedure mandates in certain categories of procurement. Instead, 90 per cent indigenisation should be aimed at. Parrikar requested for a paper on a new procurement category, called "Pure Indian", which would demand near-total indigenisation.

Parrikar proposed an assured R&D work share for MSMEs under the new "Make" procedure. He mooted a national registry of defence MSMEs, based on capability criteria. Once registered, an MSME should be supported with exemptions from burdens like earnest money for defence tendering.

Parrikar highlighted the need to boost defence exports, a requirement the PM has also stressed. He proposed issuing a negative list and positive defence export list. While no exports would be permitted to countries on the negative list, those on the latter would require no export clearances.

Also discussed was the relative success of Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) compared to the Defence R&D Organisation (DRDO). Many ascribed ISRO's success to the autonomy that came with being directly under the PM. The defence minister revealed that he had ordered greater financial powers to the DRDO's departmental heads. Each of these director-generals, who oversee specific technology areas like aerospace, missiles and underwater systems, will now be empowered to spend up to Rs 150 crore. The onus of delivering usable defence equipment would be squarely on their shoulders.

Parrikar engages pvt firms to boost indigenous arms | Business Standard News
 
For the first time since the private sector was allowed into defence production in 2001, a defence minister has met private sector defence CEOs face-to-face to discuss the role they could play in boosting defence production in India.

On Saturday, at the Taj Vivanta Hotel in Goa, Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar - alone, except for a personal secretary - met for three hours captains of private defence industry. Not one of his ministry's five secretary-level officers was in attendance. Nor was anyone from the public sector invited.

Major issues discussed included the 'Make' category of procurement; ways of harnessing micro, small and medium enterprises (SMEs); and boosting defence exports.

Industrialists who flew down to Goa for the meeting included Baba Kalyani from the Kalyani Group, and the defence vertical chiefs of Bharat Forge, Larsen & Toubro, Tata Advanced Systems, Godrej & Boyce, Ashok Leyland, Punj Lloyd, Alpha Design Technologies, Zen Technologies, Data Patterns and Pipavav Shipyard. Local Goa group, Dempo, also sent a representative.

The meeting was organised by the Confederation of Indian Industry.

Business Standard was briefed on the meeting by three CEOs who attended it. All of them agree that after 13 years of operating from the sidelines under three successive defence ministers - George Fernandes of the National Democratic Alliance; and Pranab Mukherjee and A K Antony of the United Progressive Alliance -Parrikar's readiness to interact face-to-face is an encouraging indicator of change.

"We spoke frankly and Parrikar listened carefully, interjected frequently and took notes during the meeting. For the first time in a decade, we (private sector defence companies) believe we will be allowed to use our capabilities in the defence of India," says H S Shankar, who attended the meeting as chief of defence electronics company Alpha Design Technologies.

A central issue discussed was the "Make" procedure, which was devised to allow private companies a larger role in designing and building defence equipment, with the ministry of defence (MoD) reimbursing 80 per cent of the development cost. However, since the "Make" procedure was instituted in 2008, not a single project in this category has been successfully floated by the MoD.

A new "Make" procedure has been in the pipeline for years, but there is little consensus on its form, even among the private industry. Parrikar indicated the new procedure would be finalised by end-January.

Industry representatives suggested that no programmes be tendered under the "Make" procedure until there was clarity on its final form. They cautioned it was very different from the prime minister's (PM's) "Make in India" initiative, which is about boosting manufacture. The "Make" procedure, in contrast, is about developing design capability and intellectual property (IP) in the country.

Parrikar requested CII for a note that explained IP issues, including the critical issue of who should own the IP generated through the "Make" procedure - the company that generated it, or the MoD which paid for it.

Zen Technologies proposed that the MoD should not accept low indigenous content of 30-50 per cent, which the current Defence Procurement Procedure mandates in certain categories of procurement. Instead, 90 per cent indigenisation should be aimed at. Parrikar requested for a paper on a new procurement category, called "Pure Indian", which would demand near-total indigenisation.

Parrikar proposed an assured R&D work share for MSMEs under the new "Make" procedure. He mooted a national registry of defence MSMEs, based on capability criteria. Once registered, an MSME should be supported with exemptions from burdens like earnest money for defence tendering.

Parrikar highlighted the need to boost defence exports, a requirement the PM has also stressed. He proposed issuing a negative list and positive defence export list. While no exports would be permitted to countries on the negative list, those on the latter would require no export clearances.

Also discussed was the relative success of Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) compared to the Defence R&D Organisation (DRDO). Many ascribed ISRO's success to the autonomy that came with being directly under the PM. The defence minister revealed that he had ordered greater financial powers to the DRDO's departmental heads. Each of these director-generals, who oversee specific technology areas like aerospace, missiles and underwater systems, will now be empowered to spend up to Rs 150 crore. The onus of delivering usable defence equipment would be squarely on their shoulders.

Parrikar engages pvt firms to boost indigenous arms | Business Standard News

@sancho as you can see from the last part Modi Govt has already initiated the Reform process (although I admit it's not that fast)
 
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@sancho as you can see from the last part Modi Govt has already initiated the Reform process (although I admit it's not that fast)

Well that's not a reform, since it's not a policy that was implemented. They gave DRDO more money and want more in return from the heads, which is a good start for sure, but unless it comes with proper accountabilty features to control the work of DRDO, it's just not binding. The PM criticized DRDO for not delivering things in time and a few days later he awarded DRDO officials for LCA development parts, that's not the strong reminder that DRDO and Co needs, it's a proper kick in the a...and guidance that they work for the nation and the forces and not for their own reputation!
 
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Well that's not a reform, since it's not a policy that was implemented. They gave DRDO more money and want more in return from the heads, which is a good start for sure, but unless it comes with proper accountabilty features to control the work of DRDO, it's just not binding. The PM criticized DRDO for not delivering things in time and a few days later he awarded DRDO officials for LCA development parts, but it's not a strong reminder that DRDO and Co needs, it's a proper kick in the a...and guidance that they work for the nation and the forces and not for their own reputation!

Fair point I will tag you again when proper reforms are introduced but you can call dece realising power a reform
To an extent
 
Disappointed with this government already.
They can do much better than they are doing,,what they are doing changes zilch.
 
Fair point I will tag you again when proper reforms are introduced but you can call dece realising power a reform
To an extent

Do that, because that's what I am hoping for too, because we need more than just re-named policies and PR to actually move Indian defence sector ahead. Part time DM Jaitly was a failure and even if most won't admit it, he disappointed everybody by not easing the financial side and providing more funds to the forces as expected. Parrikar came late and now has to deal with the situation (Avro replacement for example, cleared by Jaitley in this form, Jaitley talked to the foreign and Indian vendors and couldn't convince them, which leaves Parrikar only to deal with the bad result). It will be interesting to see how he deals with the problems now, but at least India finally has a proper DM and I do get the feeling that he has his own ways to do things and show what he stands for, lets hope that he can show "own" policies and reforms too.
 
Do that, because that's what I am hoping for too, because we need more than just re-named policies and PR to actually move Indian defence sector ahead. Part time DM Jaitly was a failure and even if most won't admit it, he disappointed everybody by not easing the financial side and providing more funds to the forces as expected. Parrikar came late and now has to deal with the situation (Avro replacement for example, cleared by Jaitley in this form, Jaitley talked to the foreign and Indian vendors and couldn't convince them, which leaves Parrikar only to deal with the bad result). It will be interesting to see how he deals with the problems now, but at least India finally has a proper DM and I do get the feeling that he has his own ways to do things and show what he stands for, lets hope that he can show "own" policies and reforms too.

Let's give the guy & govt sometime.1st we had handicapped & overworked Minister and this one has hardly been in MOD for a month.
 
Let's give the guy & govt sometime.1st we had handicapped & overworked Minister and this one has hardly been in MOD for a month.

The changes require 1 day,whats he waiting for??
I told u all,dpsu's have strong unions.
 
The changes require 1 day,whats he waiting for??
I told u all,dpsu's have strong unions.

You answered your question yourself man tabhi kheta hu Desi Na chadaya karo :p: hamari tarah angreezi piyo 8-)
 
You answered your question yourself man

Bjp has the mandate to do what they want,,congress never had it...................if they still can't do it for votes then shame on them.
 
Bjp has the mandate to do what they want,,congress never had it...................if they still can't do it for votes then shame on them.

There are many other things to consider even with the Numbers in the LS they are still a minority in the other House
We ain't a autocracy we are a democracy.Modi Govt will not implement Reforms in a Shock & Awe Mode,more like Gradualism (Slowly & Steadily) so the enemies of Reforms & Govt (Commies,Western funded NGOs,Congress party,AAP etc) won't be able to make much fuss
Also Big news they are going to Bring Changes into the Land Law :yahoo:
 
There are many other things to consider even with the Numbers in the LS they are still a minority in the other House
We ain't a autocracy we are a democracy.Modi Govt will not implement Reforms in a Shock & Awe Mode,more like Gradualism (Slowly & Steadily) so the enemies of Reforms & Govt (Commies,Western funded NGOs,Congress party,AAP etc) won't be able to make much fuss
Also Big news they are going to Bring Changes into the Land Law :yahoo:

Bullshit,,,disinvestment in psu's does not need a new law.
New education reforms needs nothing

They have achieved zilch in 8 months and are just trying to introduce the laws that they themselves stalled by boycotting parliament under congress.

High time u pick up a newspaper.
 
Bullshit,,,disinvestment in psu's does not need a new law.
New education reforms needs nothing

They have achieved zilch in 8 months and are just trying to introduce the laws that they themselves stalled by boycotting parliament under congress.

High time u pick up a newspaper.
I am sorry
 
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