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Yahan koi bhi seedha aadmi nahi chal sakta.. Agar main bhi honga tou wohi karunga jo IK kar raha hai.. I mean I won't let anyone enjoy at the cost of my own people's comfort..

Main nahi banta kisi bhi fake alliance ka part.. Gas wahan se khareedta jahan se meri awam ko sasti parti.. main chinese companies ke upar wohi rules lagu karta jo meri apni companies pe hain aur unhain koi istasna na deta.. agar unhain istasna dena hota tou main unhain kehta ke 75% of the people jo kaam karaingay chinese companies main gwadar ke ird gird, woh Pakistani honay chahien.. aur har department main isi tarha hona chahiey.. ye na ho ke laborers bharti karliey.. hamain apnay engineers bhi khapanay hain, architects bhi khapanay hain, administration ke log bhi khapanay hain..

yehi baat saari duniya ko khalti hai.. ke aik aisa shakhs unn ke interests ko nuqsaan pohnchaey ga..

Itnay Kashmiri mar gaey... kia alliance ne aik bayaan dia? Afghanistan ke 9 Pakistani maar diey, kahan hain Raheel Shareef aur unn ka alliance? chalo unn se army nahi chahiey thi,, aik bayan hi de detay..

Har issue pe mujhay IK ka saath deney main koi aar nahi hai.. haan yeh alag baat hai ke he can't go along with international players.. because they all work for their own benefits..

Main ye keh hi nahi rahi ke transparency maintain na karay...aur Pakistani benefits ko na dekhay... Ye sab karay...lekin plzz ultay seedhay baghair sochay samjhay..bolna chor dey....

Aur doosri baat ye ke batayein ke IK ka India par kia stance hai? Kashmir par kia stance hai? Itna jo zulm horaha hai India main kashmiris ke saath...Ik ne uss par kiya kiya? Koi strategy banayi? Kashmiris ke liye kitni awaz uthayi? Last yr...when India Pak tension were at its peak..aur Muslime ka against bhi incidents horahay thay....khursheed kusuri ki book launch par bhi incident hua tha..un hi dino, IK India jaa kar Modi se milnay chala gaya tha aur cricket series ki baat karraha tha? Wahan India jaa kar Kashmir ke liye kitni awaaz uthaayi?

IK ne bhi Kashmir ke liye koi aisi awaaz nahi uthaayi..bas kabhi kabhi jalsy main ek aadh statement de dena... Itna tu Nawaz dharif bhi kar leta hai.. Nawaz Sharif ki pro India policy tu uske business interests ki wajah se hai... IK kiun Kashmir par itna khul kar nahi bolta? Even Sheikh Rashid India ke khilaf ziada khul kar bolta hai... Jab IK China ke against bhi khul kar bol sakta hai tu india ke kiun nahi? Kabhi aap ne zik ko akshmir ke liye bhtt ziada boltay huay dekha, jaisy ek national level leader ko bolna chahye?? IK aur Nawaz sharif ki India policy main koi ziada farq nahi hai.. Ye cheez mujhe sab se ziada irritate karti hai ke China aur Turkey aur Arabas ke against baat karsakta hai lekin india ke khilaf ziada boltay main ne kabhi nahi dekha.. Kbhi kabhar ek aadh statement de diya aur bas... NS aur IK ki atleast India policy main koi ziada farq nahi hai
 
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Aur doosri baat ye ke batayein ke IK ka India par kia stance hai? Kashmir par kia stance hai? Itna jo zulm horaha hai India main kashmiris ke saath...Ik ne uss par kiya kiya? Koi strategy banayi? Kashmiris ke liye kitni awaz uthayi? Last yr...when India Pak tension were at its peak..aur Muslime ka against bhi incidents horahay thay....khursheed kusuri ki book launch par bhi incident hua tha..un hi dino, IK India jaa kar Modi se milnay chala gaya tha aur cricket series ki baat karraha tha? Wahan India jaa kar Kashmir ke liye kitni awaaz uthaayi?

IK kashmir ke upar hamari wizarat e kharja se ziada baat karta hai.. Kulbhoshan Yadev ka zikar jitna uss ne ya uss ki party ne kia hai, na PPP ne kia na MQM aur na JI ne.. Abhi recently bhi statements diey hain.. Haan aik kaam woh nahi karsakta ke LoC pe jakey khara hojaey gun le ke..

Agar kabhi uss ki hakumar banti tou zaroor uss pe sawal kia jasakta tha.. abhi bilkul nahi kia jasakta..

Jahan tak rahi baat India janay ki.. uss zamanay main har aik diplomacy kar raha tha.. Modi yahan se aakay guzar gaya... Jindal yahan aakay baghair visa chala gaya.. na aik statement Army ki ayee na kisi aur ki.. aik hi aadmi se saari expectations tou nahi lagai jasakteen naa!
 
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IK kashmir ke upar hamari wizarat e kharja se ziada baat karta hai.. Kulbhoshan Yadev ka zikar jitna uss ne ya uss ki party ne kia hai, na PPP ne kia na MQM aur na JI ne.. Abhi recently bhi statements diey hain.. Haan aik kaam woh nahi karsakta ke LoC pe jakey khara hojaey gun le ke..

Agar kabhi uss ki hakumar banti tou zaroor uss pe sawal kia jasakta tha.. abhi bilkul nahi kia jasakta..

Jahan tak rahi baat India janay ki.. uss zamanay main har aik diplomacy kar raha tha.. Modi yahan se aakay guzar gaya... Jindal yahan aakay baghair visa chala gaya.. na aik statement Army ki ayee na kisi aur ki.. aik hi aadmi se saari expectations tou nahi lagai jasakteen naa!

PPP, MQM aur JI ko kon acha keh raha hai? India par jitna khul kar Sheikh Rashid baat kartay hain...koi nahi karta... IK bhi nahi...
 
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THE EXPRESS TRIBUNE
> PAKISTAN > JAMMU & KASHMIR
Imran Khan vows to resolve Kashmir issue
By News Desk
Published: May 23, 2016

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Kashmir wants freedom from Indian oppression; Imran Khan

The News


Mon May 08, 2017

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A history lesson for Imran Khan: Kashmir lust can ruin you

Indian newspaper Nov, 16 2012

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United on Kashmir despite political differences: Imran Khan

Pakistan Today on SEPTEMBER 24, 2016

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Imran urges UN to play role for Kashmir issue
September 21, 2016

Samaa TV

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@Farah Sohail

I can find you 100s of his statements in the past five years.. The only thing is that his focus is on corruption..
 
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THE EXPRESS TRIBUNE
> PAKISTAN > JAMMU & KASHMIR
Imran Khan vows to resolve Kashmir issue
By News Desk
Published: May 23, 2016

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Kashmir wants freedom from Indian oppression; Imran Khan

The News

Mon May 08, 2017

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A history lesson for Imran Khan: Kashmir lust can ruin you

Indian newspaper Nov, 16 2012

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United on Kashmir despite political differences: Imran Khan

Pakistan Today on SEPTEMBER 24, 2016

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Imran urges UN to play role for Kashmir issue
September 21, 2016

Samaa TV

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@Farah Sohail

I can find you 100s of his statements in the past five years.. The only thing is that his focus is on corruption..

Ohoo.. Main ne ye nahi kaha tha...ke IK ne kabhi kashmir par baat nahi ki... Lekin mera khyal hai ke IK jaisay national level leader ko..jab ke kashmir main movement peak par hai...aur ziada emphasize karna chahye ..bas ye keh rahi hun main...itna pressure daalay NS par..ke NS bhi under pressure aa kar apni kashmir policy change karnay par majboor hojaye..mera kehnay ka matlab ye hai..... Corruption par focus tu hai hi, us par bhi focus karay..aur kashmir par bhi...
 
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Yeh bhi parhain.. Indian Newspapers:

Imran Khan targets Modi, says Pakistanis not cowardly like Sharif
http://www.hindustantimes.com/world...like-sharif/story-2ofRh1QDyoZD4RVjuBHuEP.html
Oct 01, 2016

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Narendra Modi would not have behaved liked this if Nawaz Sharif had not given him wrong signals: Imran Khan
http://indianexpress.com/article/wo...t-given-him-wrong-signals-imran-khan-3069836/
October 07, 2016

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I will show Nawaz Sharif how to respond to Modi, says Imran Khan
BY IANS | UPDATED: SEP 29, 2016




Ohoo.. Main ne ye nahi kaha tha...ke IK ne kabhi kashmir par baat nahi ki... Lekin mera khyal hai ke IK jaisay national level leader ko..jab ke kashmir main movement peak par hai...aur ziada emphasize karna chahye ..bas ye keh rahi hun main...itna pressure daalay NS par..ke NS bhi under pressure aa kar apni kashmir policy change karnay par majboor hojaye..mera kehnay ka matlab ye hai..... Corruption par focus tu hai hi, us par bhi focus karay..aur kashmir par bhi...

Abb iss se ziada kia karay mujhay bataein? Nawaz Sharif ko sikharaha hai ke kaisay baat karni hai Modi se... aur kia karay bechara? :-)

PPP, MQM aur JI ko kon acha keh raha hai? India par jitna khul kar Sheikh Rashid baat kartay hain...koi nahi karta... IK bhi nahi...

Shaikh Rasheed national level kay siasatdaan nahi hain.. Woh tou Indian Anchors se bhi ulajh partay hain... IK policy bayan deta hai.. for example, when he says UN has to intervene, it means he has irked India too much... That UN's statement is considered as a policy statement..

Kulbhushan ke upar bhi bayanaat kafi baar diey... in fact if you search, you will find a weekly bayan of IK on Kashmir/ Modi/ or related stuf.. Itna aap Sh. Rasheed ka nahi dekhaingi.

Sh. Sahib ke bayanaat iss liey achay lagtay hain kyunke woh agar month main aik baar bhi India ke khilaaf boltay hain tou full bajatay hain.. but unn ke bayanaat policy bayaan nahi samajhna chahiey..

For example, agar sh. rasheed kahain ke hum India ki eeent se eent baja deingay.. tou koi notice nahi lega.. aur isi liey Sh. yeh bayan de bhi saktay hain.. lekin agar IK yehi bayan dega tou international headlines banaingi ke IK power main aatay hi nuclear strikes karnay wala hai...
 
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Acha chorein... Ye dekhein

http://www.zemtv.com/2017/05/08/chief-justice-saqib-nisar-response-on-hanif-abbasi-lawyer-arguments/.

Ye case tu jald hi dismiss hota nazar aaraha hai

Iss main tou koi masla nahi.. yehi tou woh case hai jis ke baaray IK ne kaha tha ke iss ko SC jurmana laga kar wapis karday.. Asal masla foreign funding aur 10 arab walay harjanay ka hai..

Main ne jab bhi PTI ko paisay diey hain, raseed le kar kaheen phaink di hai.. aur kabhi kabhi tou Excel Sheets share hoti theen hum se ke itnay itnay paisay iss iss shakhs ne diey.. uss main yeh log maaray jaeingay..

As one of the ministers said in court ke "Overseas Pakistanis ki hubbul watni mashkook hoti hai isi liey PTI ki funding ko Pakistani jamhooriat ke khilaaf saazish ke tanazur main dekhna chahiey" not the exact words, but similar..
 
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Iss main tou koi masla nahi.. yehi tou woh case hai jis ke baaray IK ne kaha tha ke iss ko SC jurmana laga kar wapis karday.. Asal masla foreign funding aur 10 arab walay harjanay ka hai..

Main ne jab bhi PTI ko paisay diey hain, raseed le kar kaheen phaink di hai.. aur kabhi kabhi tou Excel Sheets share hoti theen hum se ke itnay itnay paisay iss iss shakhs ne diey.. uss main yeh log maaray jaeingay..

As one of the ministers said in court ke "Overseas Pakistanis ki hubbul watni mashkook hoti hai isi liey PTI ki funding ko Pakistani jamhooriat ke khilaaf saazish ke tanazur main dekhna chahiey" not the exact words, but similar..

Foreign funding case main bhi mujhe ziada masla nazar nahi aaraha honestly.. Woh sirf pressure tactic hai... Govt minister ke bayan se koi farq nahi parta..

I am only worried abt defamation case.. Uske baaray main kuch sochna chahye IK ko seriously...ke uska kia karna hai?
 
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Foreign funding case main bhi mujhe ziada masla nazar nahi aaraha honestly.. Whbsirf pressure tactic hai... Govt minister ke bayahn se koi farq nahi parta..

I am only worried abt defamation case.. Uske baaray main kuch sochna chahye IK ko seriously...ke uska kia karna hai?

Foreign funding wala case garbar hai.. i am telling you..

Aur 10 arab wala case tou abb uss banday ke rehem o karam pe hai... jis ne msg dia tha.. Ya IK mara jaega.. ya woh banda.. kyun ke agar woh yeh adalat main gawahi de bhi deta hai shareef family ke khilaf tou court IK ko chhor degi lekin Shareef family phir iss shakhs ke upar case kardaingay.. yeh bechara bura phans gaya hai.. IK ki nadani ki wajah se..

iss ko chahiey ke gawahi dene ki zaroorat hi nahi hai..
 
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Foreign funding wala case garbar hai.. i am telling you..

Aur 10 arab wala case tou abb uss banday ke rehem o karam pe hai... jis ne msg dia tha.. Ya IK mara jaega.. ya woh banda.. kyun ke agar woh yeh adalat main gawahi de bhi deta hai shareef family ke khilaf tou court IK ko chhor degi lekin Shareef family phir iss shakhs ke upar case kardaingay.. yeh bechara bura phans gaya hai.. IK ki nadani ki wajah se..

iss ko chahiey ke gawahi dene ki zaroorat hi nahi hai..

10 arab wali offer jo banda le kar aaya tha...jis main uska apni bhi commission tha....aap ka kia khyal hai ...ke woh koi itna integrity wala banda hoga..jo jhoot na bolay? Jo bribe offer karraha hai...woh koi bhtt imaandar aadmi tu hoga nahi.. So 99.9% chances yehi hain ke woh backout kar jayega court main ke main ne aisa kuch nahi kiya.. Aur waisy bhi court main jaa kar kon kahay ga ke haan main offer le kar gaya tha? Sab se pehle tu court usay hi poochay gi..ke kiun kia aisa? Aap aisi offer le kar kiun gaye? Ye masla hoga..os case main IK ko.. Aur doosri baat jo aap ne kahi....ke agar us ne sach bolna chaha bhi tu sharif family usay nahi choray gi.. Koi apnay business aur apni life ko IK ke liye kiun khatray main daalay ga??
 
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Credit for that -4 goes to @El Sidd ..

I guess it all boils down to the Establishment. Wipe the slate clean of all players once and for all (complete system overhaul) or get the 3 usual corrupt suspects out and give IK a fair shot at next GE.

I don't know what the main reservations are against IK. Maybe @El Sidd can shed some on that?

AH was done before, his shelf life was over for those who nurtured him. Almost all goals achieved.

NS had no intention to fight next elections anyways - he wants to play the role of his abba jee had - the issue is within family. That is why all force is being put to save the future PM.

AZ is in no position and politically extremely weak and he knows and admits this fact, he has no choice other than to unwillingly forward Bilawal as PPP leader.

So all of the above are already subtracted by design or more so by default.

@PakSword - You are spot on issues of $ for PA - however China has no issue with IK, nor with any other including PPP. Their vision is strategic not tactical, and no party or leader can go against China even if it's Maulana Fazlur Rahman as PM :)

KSA can play its cards and is still playing behind the scenes; their Ambassador and rep of King Salman recently met IK and SMQ.

Turkey is insignificant as yet - due to Erdogan's own issues - it wants to be seen as player like Iran and KSA and also due to its European card which it couldn't play due to non inclusion in EU for so long- now situation is different in Europe after the defeat of pro Russian stooges in Netherlands and France, and also Brexit.

@Farah Sohail - you are spot on IK's blabbering re every issue on earth. In Jalsas you don't ever touch upon policy nor strategy. It's showcasing performance and procedural and tangible stuff that sells.

He has a lot to learn - but unfortunately he has no credible predecessors to follow. If he was in US as candidate - he could learn from Lincoln, Roosevelt, Washington, Reagan etc., and picked up a leaf from here and there - in Pakistan, he's at disadvantage - very few predecessors if any are worth following :)

He is honest but not shrewd or cunning - and our system requires cunningly shrewd politicians to get into the power corridor, additionally he is too blunt and doesn't believe in "No comments" philosophy which is a cornerstone of any presser of any diplomatic leader.

As for PA - I quoted a conversation with one of the PA Generals in London recently, where he stated we have no issue with IK, if he let's us have the complete authority to fire shots in certain domains.

Defamation case is a joke - if it is taken up then Zardari can file against Shahbaz and so on and so forth- defamation is not so easily possible in western democracies what to say of South Asian styled farce democracies

10 arab wali offer jo banda le kar aaya tha...jis main uska apni bhi commission tha....aap ka kia khyal hai ...ke woh koi itna integrity wala banda hoga..jo jhoot na bolay? Jo bribe offer karraha hai...woh koi bhtt imaandar aadmi tu hoga nahi.. So 99.9% chances yehi hain ke woh backout kar jayega court main ke main ne aisa kuch nahi kiya.. Aur waisy bhi court main jaa kar kon kahay ga ke haan main offer le kar gaya tha? Sab se pehle tu court usay hi poochay gi..ke kiun kia aisa? Aap aisi offer le kar kiun gaye? Ye masla hoga..os case main IK ko.. Aur doosri baat jo aap ne kahi....ke agar us ne sach bolna chaha bhi tu sharif family usay nahi choray gi.. Koi apnay business aur apni life ko IK ke liye kiun khatray main daalay ga??

What if ABC, DEF, or XYZ says it's him that who brought the offer. It's so vague that it will be quashed in a sec.
 
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What if ABC, DEF, or XYZ says it's him that who brought the offer. It's so vague that it will be quashed in a sec.

Why would any X,Y, Z risk his own reputation and take the blame in front of court? And then invite wrath of Sharifs....tht on their behalf. I made tht offer?

Honestly....i am not so worried abt IK ..right now.... I am more concerned abt Maryam Nawaz who is touted as our future PM... She is directly involved in dawn leaks.which is a national security breach.....and she should be punished for tht..rather than becoming our future PM.. If she is not punished for dawn leaks..and her name is removed from dawn leaks...then there are many chances tht she will be our future PM.. So i hope, no NRO is done on dawn leaks.. Atleast whole dawn leaks report should be leaked, esp with notes of ISI and MI officials..with names of all actual culprits
 
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Why would any X,Y, Z risk his own reputation and take the blame in front of court? And then invite wrath of Sharifs....tht on their behalf. I made tht offer?

Honestly....i am not so worried abt IK ..right now.... I am more concerned abt Maryam Nawaz who is touted as our future PM... She is directly involved in dawn leaks.which is a national security breach.....and she should be punished for tht..rather than becoming our future PM.. If she is not punished for dawn leaks..and her name is removed from dawn leaks...then there are many chances tht she will be our future PM.. So i hope, no NRO is done on dawn leaks.. Atleast whole dawn leaks report should be leaked, esp with notes of ISI and MI officials..with names of all actual culprits

Maryam is our next PM - she suits "them" better than even N$ - especially after being caught red handed.
 
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Maryam is our next PM - she suits "them" better than even N$ - especially after being caught red handed.

Hmmmmm... What u are saying is very unfortunate..but true

Maryam is our next PM - she suits "them" better than even N$ - especially after being caught red handed.

What u are saying is true, i think...but if it happens...how would it affect the morale of officers? It will have extremely negative impact... Kiya ye factor bhi consider ..nahi hona chahye?
 
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