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Panama Case - Post Verdict Discussion and Updates

So we've finally reached at the much awaited point of visible split in the superior judiciary. It had to come to this.

Nawaz is making every single move at the behest of his handlers (Pakistan's enemies).

I see a brutal ending to this - hard lines have been drawn. One side wants to protect tge state and the lther side wants chaos in the state to escape accountability.

But its all part of the big regional game. Pakistan is the eye of the storm and all this is just one part of the warfare.
 
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4. Review petitions & petitions to be filed again by PMLN
- PMLN Lawyers are again going to hit goldmine

Do u really think these petitions will be accepted for hearing by a bench when earlier CJ himself rejected these petitions in in-chamber hearing tht these petitions cant be admitted for hearing? How and why will he now accept these petitions?

5. Accountability Monitoring Judge
- He has shown his displeasure at a pvt get together at Islamabad club, over how things are being run by Basheer and if we go with the grapevine - it seemed that its more of a Basheera in Trouble type of situation however......(refer to 6)

I think J Ijazul Ahsan must have just just expressed his displeasure over how things are being run by Basheera ..at a private get together..just like we have reservatoins over basheeras conduct..but i dont think it must be anything more than tht..

I think J Ijazul Ahsan cant do anything much legally regd this.. dont think he has any such powers being monitoring judge.,tht he can actually do something...monitoring judge ka sirf naam hai.. mera nahi khyal ke woh kuch karsaktay hain.. woh agar karna chahtay bhi honge lekin shayad J Ijazul Ahsan kuch kar nahi saktay warna shayad ab tak karchukay hotay..itna intezar na kartay ..ab tak kuch na karnay ka matlab yehi hai ke shayad unke pass powers nahi hongi

- Tweety bird says keep an eye on Justice Sardar Tariq Masood & Justice Manzoor Ahmad Malik - in case they sit on any new bench/es.

Hmmm...tu ye 2 hain.. inn par nazar rakhni hogi ab

@Farah Sohail I still believe that the underlined part is the light at the end of the tunnel even beyond Panama Cases.

Dont know.. firstly lets see..ke SC main kia situation hoti hai..,If theres a divide between judges...

I am just praying for J Khosa and Gulzar ke woh dono kheriat se CJ banein..

But even if they become CJ...they cant sit in all benches themselves... judges tu wohi honge abhi walay...many of whom are pro Nawaz...

So sirf J Khosa aur Gulzar ke CJ bannay se khaas farq nahi paray ga..even if they desperately want to root out corruption... sirf unke chahnay se kuch nahi hoga..if other judges dont support them...
 
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So we've finally reached at the much awaited point of visible split in the superior judiciary. It had to come to this.
Nawaz is making every single move at the behest of his handlers (Pakistan's enemies).
I see a brutal ending to this - hard lines have been drawn. One side wants to protect tge state and the lther side wants chaos in the state to escape accountability.
But its all part of the big regional game. Pakistan is the eye of the storm and all this is just one part of the warfare.

You Know, You are actually right. There is definitely a visible split or tilt towards PMLN Stance or at least an eagerness on the part of judiciary to show neutrality on the matters between PMLN & Military Establishment and take a balancing position. That is not the case earlier, i mean prior to Faizabad Dharna, think about it.

I won’t really say it’s averted - it’s still as per initial assessment - typical electable will not leave until and unless Govt (in this case - of PMLN) gets out. Too much financial stake for any MNA / MPA to leave treasury benches before maal e ghaneemat is doled out - this (assumption) is based on my first hand (family members and friends) experience in last several Govts.

You are not wrong entirely but people often run towards safety from a sinking boat and that too neither happens, despites Panama verdict and Elections on the corner.
It means a lot. It means people (electables) didn't yet see PMLN a Sinking boat or in other words didn't yet find a better safe place better then.....PMLN. On top of it, NS playing cards good, his recent move to place the name of SS for premiership a very good political stroke, IMHO.
 
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You Know, You are actually right. There is definitely a visible split or tilt towards PMLN Stance or at least an eagerness on the part of judiciary to show neutrality on the matters between PMLN & Military Establishment and take a balancing position. That is not the case earlier, i mean prior to Faizabad Dharna, think about it.



You are not wrong entirely but people often run towards safety from a sinking boat and that too neither happens, despites Panama verdict and Elections on the corner.
It means a lot. It means people (electables) didn't yet see PMLN a Sinking boat or in other words didn't yet find a better safe place better then.....PMLN. On top of it, NS playing cards good, his recent move to place the name of SS for premiership a very good political stroke, IMHO.

There's no balancing act!
Those supporting Mawaz support corruption or they are idiots of the highest level.
 
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I am just praying for J Khosa and Gulzar ke woh dono kheriat se CJ banein..
Like you said, they pose no decisive threat to the corrupt if majority of the judges are not with them but they are cause for hope none the less and must be honoured and cherished for the asset to our nation that they are.

@Realistic Change @PakSword @Zibago @El_Swordsmen you must have seen the Shahbaz Sharif ads about Metro Multan Project - Chinese company Yabate, that worked on Metro Multan as a subcontractor, being blacklisted by China - A success of SSharif? Literally using something proved shameful and convicting for SS by China being touted as a redemption and cause for celebration instead.

Where is the PTI ad revealing the truth?

Why is PTI completely at a loss in coming up with a narrative, let alone it's counter when the opponent takes the initiative on such issues due to the usual lethargy of PTI? Why is SS given a walk over in such a lame manner as if he is a force of Devine cleanliness against elder brothers corruption? Aik paisay ki corruption?

Although the following whole show was outstanding but some highlights are very revealing.

@Farah Sohail Watch the vid at the end of the post about simple strategy on cases specially from 19:00 - 22:00

And PTI is contemplating starting a campaign in support of Judiciary, lol. Good luck PTI, looks like I might be sitting in another PTI dharna after elections, lol. Some judge is definitely playing with PTI leadership for them to day dream against ground realities. The saying that resonated in our ears after 2013 election...manzil unhain mili jo shareekesafr na thay...lol.

What if the above is proved to be the case? Why not work on contingencies when there is still time... Fold up your sleeves PTI...enough is enough...Stop conceding legal and political space and put an end to this wait and watch nonsense.

About Metro Multan Corruption watch from 22:00 onwards(startling aspect is how Shahbaz Sharif is cunningly spreading his false narrative with shamefully no counter from his political opponents).
 
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release of sharukh jatoi is a slap on the face of entire judicial system !!
if a jatoi & taalpur family have this much influence ... imagine what zardari & shareefs are capable of & to what extent they will go to save their a@# & wealth


can SC take suo moto on this sharukh jatoi case case ?? @Farah Sohail @PakSword @Shane

Like you said, they pose no decisive threat to the corrupt if majority of the judges are not with them but they are cause for hope none the less and must be honoured and cherished for the asset to our nation that they are.

@Realistic Change @PakSword @Zibago @El_Swordsmen you must have seen the Shahbaz Sharif ads about Metro Multan Project - Chinese company Yabate, that worked on Metro Multan as a subcontractor, being blacklisted by China - A success of SSharif? Literally using something proved shameful and convicting for SS by China being touted as a redemption and cause for celebration instead.

Where is the PTI ad revealing the truth?

Why is PTI completely at a loss in coming up with a narrative, let alone it's counter when the opponent takes the initiative on such issues due to the usual lethargy of PTI? Why is SS given a walk over in such a lame manner as if he is a force of Devine cleanliness against elder brothers corruption? Aik paisay ki corruption?

Although the following whole show was outstanding but some highlights are very revealing.

@Farah Sohail Watch the vid at the end of the post about simple strategy on cases specially from 19:00 - 22:00

And PTI is contemplating starting a campaign in support of Judiciary, lol. Good luck PTI, looks like I might be sitting in another PTI dharna after elections, lol. Some judge is definitely playing with PTI leadership for them to day dream against ground realities. The saying that resonated in our ears after 2013 election...manzil unhain mili jo shareekesafr na thay...lol.

What if the above is proved to be the case? Why not work on contingencies when there is still time... Fold up your sleeves PTI...enough is enough...Stop conceding legal and political space and put an end to this wait and watch nonsense.

About Metro Multan Corruption watch from 22:00 onwards(startling aspect is how Shahbaz Sharif is cunningly spreading his false narrative with shamefully no counter from his political opponents).

multan metro corruption is no hidden secret now ... PTI lacks political wisdom ... they do right things at wrong time ... but bigger question is where is tahir ul qadri .... even after model town report there is no campaign from them other than having dinner with zardari & ppp
 
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release of sharukh jatoi is a slap on the face of entire judicial system !!
if a jatoi & taalpur family have this much influence ... imagine what zardari & shareefs are capable of & to what extent they will go to save their a@# & wealth


can SC take suo moto on this sharukh jatoi case case ?? @Farah Sohail @PakSword @Shane



multan metro corruption is no hidden secret now ... PTI lacks political wisdom ... they do right things at wrong time ... but bigger question is where is tahir ul qadri .... even after model town report there is no campaign from them other than having dinner with zardari & ppp

I don't know how can someone pardon that ***hole who showed victory signs after murdering someone.. state should have been the party in this case..
 
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release of sharukh jatoi is a slap on the face of entire judicial system !!
if a jatoi & taalpur family have this much influence ... imagine what zardari & shareefs are capable of & to what extent they will go to save their a@# & wealth


can SC take suo moto on this sharukh jatoi case case ?? @Farah Sohail @PakSword @Shane



multan metro corruption is no hidden secret now ... PTI lacks political wisdom ... they do right things at wrong time ... but bigger question is where is tahir ul qadri .... even after model town report there is no campaign from them other than having dinner with zardari & ppp

What good will a suo moto do when these crooks have the system in their very clutches. They have been made powerful not despite our judiciary but due to its half hearted approach and toothless implementation of existing laws on the powerful elite if not support.

A while ago, a close friend of somebody I know in khi was sitting in his laptop shop when two men armed with hand gun entered his shop pointing their gun at him. The guy had a licenses gun on him too and retaliated, after an exchange of gun fire, the shop owner shot and fatally injured both culprits while he got shot himself but survived. The two serial culprits succumbed to injuries later on the way to the hospital.

As it turned out, one of the two thugs was son of none other than Chief Secretary PMLN Sind as of this moment, a Sardar Gabol, I forgot his name.

The shop owner is going through the worst nightmare imaginable since the incident. He and his family - daughters who are unable to attend school since - are being hounded, threatened and virtually persecuted for what was in essence an act of self defence. He was forced to close down his business and is virtually confined to his home with his family, too afraid to even get out and even then, where to go? These thugs virtually own Pakistan.

This is the state of affairs for the common man in Pakistan. This is the state of affairs of our Legal system that is in a state of total collapse for the common man but working to serve and support these democratic thugs without any discrimination of any party - these thugs are part and parcel of every party - sorry state of affairs to say the least. Worst of times for the common Pakistani.
 
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What good will a suo moto do when these crooks have the system in their very clutches. They have been made powerful not despite our judiciary but due to its half hearted approach and toothless implementation of existing laws on the powerful elite if not support.

A while ago, a close friend of somebody I know in khi was sitting in his laptop shop when two men armed with hand gun entered his shop pointing their gun at him. The guy had a licenses gun on him too and retaliated, after an exchange of gun fire, the shop owner shot and fatally injured both culprits while he got shot himself but survived. The two serial culprits succumbed to injuries later on the way to the hospital.

As it turned out, one of the two thugs was son of none other than Chief Secretary PMLN Sind as of this moment, a Sardar Gabol, I forgot his name.

The shop owner is going through the worst nightmare imaginable since the incident. He and his family - daughters who are unable to attend school since - are being hounded, threatened and virtually persecuted for what was in essence an act of self defence. He was forced to close down his business and is virtually confined to his home with his family, too afraid to even get out and even then, where to go? These thugs virtually own Pakistan.

This is the state of affairs for the common man in Pakistan. This is the state of affairs of our Legal system that is in a state of total collapse for the common man but working to serve and support these democratic thugs without any discrimination of any party - these thugs are part and parcel of every party - sorry state of affairs to say the least. Worst of times for the common Pakistani.

I think people should take up arms themselves.. and start killing these bastards.. but then.. we are Pakistanis.. all talk..
 
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