Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

[Zarvan]

Mate check wiki of Pakistan army military equipment apparently ak-103 is going to replace g3 ​

Wiki has to say samething about SCAR

 

[Amaa'n]

SIG716

Are you sure it is not some other variant but different oem?? What i have heard it is PWS

Would love to see CZ Bren configured for 7.62 NATO.

@balixd

Fauj ki baatein fauj hi janay.....everyday they wake up with different strategy in their head and discard the one from yesterday while they take their morning dump

 

[RAMPAGE]

Fauj ki baatein fauj hi janay.....everyday they wake up with different strategy in their head and discard the one from yesterday while they take their morning dump

Ab kia hua?

 

[Tipu7]

Are you sure it is not some other variant but different oem?? What i have heard it is PWS


Fauj ki baatein fauj hi janay.....everyday they wake up with different strategy in their head and discard the one from yesterday while they take their morning dump

So as per now, we have winner.....?
Aren't we looking for TWO guns in total?
Type 56 & G3 cannot be replaced by ONE gun only ......
Looks like we have winner of Type56 replacement, and it's Ak103 which will be delivered in batches to be used in Tribal areas?

Cant say anything for now... but dosent look good for you..

SIG716

 

[Zarvan]

So as per now, we have winner.....?
Aren't we looking for TWO guns in total?
Type 56 & G3 cannot be replaced by ONE gun only ......
Looks like we have winner of Type56 replacement, and it's Ak103 which will be delivered in batches to be used in Tribal areas?

That is exactly the most important question that whether we are looking for one Gun or two because you are right that one Gun can't replace both Type 56 and G3

I asked a friend to ask someone in Army and he is coming up with a name MP4 A2 I am telling him no such Gun exists but he is insisting. I am going to end up in mental hospital before final decision takes place @balixd

 

[Tipu7]

I asked a friend to ask someone in Army and he is coming up with a name MP4 A2 I am telling him no such Gun exists but he is insisting. I am going to end up in mental hospital before final decision takes place @balixd

That "Sheikh" ?
Nope. Don't take it seriously ......

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Yeee so you play BF?

no I dont. just borrowed the video to show at least some of the guns in discussion.

Ahhh.............FINALLY, another Battlefield fan!!Way to go sir ji!!

just mentioned since many guns are in the up close video in this clip. I dont play FPS.. I am too old for them. bit of RPG and thats all

 

[Omega007]

just mentioned since many guns are in the up close video in this clip. I dont play FPS.. I am too old for them. bit of RPG and thats all

Oh come on!!You can't be that old!!

 

[dr_jawwad71]

I see SCAR mania in this forum. That's why people are not thinking straight. Even USA is hesitatnt adopting SCAR as main army rifle. It's a big decision requires a huge amount of money. SCAR isn't coming cheap niether berretta AXR.
My vote is for MPT 76 or CZ Bren 806.

 

[Army research]

Any gun with 7.62,comparatively lower recoil and weight , range , no jamming issues and modular I.e barrels mags etc will work for our army that's all we need the scar mania I'd here because it is a futuristic gun and can serve our needs for decades making it a worthwhile upgrade USA is not adopting it because they already have comparatively good guns while our g3 is from the 60s thus scar would be a good upgrade think of it like this your using a car for 10 years and you need a replacement would you get another 5 year old or 8 year old car which you will have to change again or get a new car which is a bit more expensive but will last 10 more years so actually saves you money and will later sell for more too same here scar will work for decades and due to tot which Pakistan army has made sure of we will export it and earn more money too so don't think it's expensive it will pay us way more

 

[Zarvan]

Any gun with 7.62,comparatively lower recoil and weight , range , no jamming issues and modular I.e barrels mags etc will work for our army that's all we need the scar mania I'd here because it is a futuristic gun and can serve our needs for decades making it a worthwhile upgrade USA is not adopting it because they already have comparatively good guns while our g3 is from the 60s thus scar would be a good upgrade think of it like this your using a car for 10 years and you need a replacement would you get another 5 year old or 8 year old car which you will have to change again or get a new car which is a bit more expensive but will last 10 more years so actually saves you money and will later sell for more too same here scar will work for decades and due to tot which Pakistan army has made sure of we will export it and earn more money too so don't think it's expensive it will pay us way more

Thanks for understanding what I am saying for months now. Selecting FN SCAR means we would use this for next 40 years but other Guns no chance

 

[Quwa]

A lil off the topic, or actually quite a bit off the topic, but any movement in the area of snipers.
Thinking sniper guns like the one TrackingPoint have developed could really change the ability of our armed forces to take on terrorist threats with less experienced shooters doing the job saving time and reducing the casualty count.... The time taken for our SSG to arrive or even specialised army units really increases the time the terrorists have to operate.
Every city having a few snipers trained with these type of systems could really alter the situation. And we could probably get the guns under the coalition fund which will go to waste otherwise I guess.

Can't say - I don't have any info on that front.

 

[dr_jawwad71]

Any gun with 7.62,comparatively lower recoil and weight , range , no jamming issues and modular I.e barrels mags etc will work for our army that's all we need the scar mania I'd here because it is a futuristic gun and can serve our needs for decades making it a worthwhile upgrade USA is not adopting it because they already have comparatively good guns while our g3 is from the 60s thus scar would be a good upgrade think of it like this your using a car for 10 years and you need a replacement would you get another 5 year old or 8 year old car which you will have to change again or get a new car which is a bit more expensive but will last 10 more years so actually saves you money and will later sell for more too same here scar will work for decades and due to tot which Pakistan army has made sure of we will export it and earn more money too so don't think it's expensive it will pay us way more

You are right. This caliber requires low recoil, less jamming and lesser weight. And you are also right mentioning the reason behind why America is not inducing SCAR. The cost to benefit ratio is not worth of spending billions of dollar on change of rifle. It is because M16 evolved in the same period of time which G3 did not. We have tools, we have experience. We lack skills and technology. I think we should start improving our skills in necessary modification of the rifle. Also I don't think that SCAR will last for 40 years. World is changing and progressing at alarming pace. We should acquire the skills of developing weapon from an idea.Otherwise we have to face the same situation in 20 years.
Best regards

 

[Arsalan]

Any gun with 7.62,comparatively lower recoil and weight , range , no jamming issues and modular I.e barrels mags etc will work for our army that's all we need the scar mania I'd here because it is a futuristic gun and can serve our needs for decades making it a worthwhile upgrade USA is not adopting it because they already have comparatively good guns while our g3 is from the 60s thus scar would be a good upgrade think of it like this your using a car for 10 years and you need a replacement would you get another 5 year old or 8 year old car which you will have to change again or get a new car which is a bit more expensive but will last 10 more years so actually saves you money and will later sell for more too same here scar will work for decades and due to tot which Pakistan army has made sure of we will export it and earn more money too so don't think it's expensive it will pay us way more

Guns wont evolve at that pace that will make, lets say CZ Bern, obsolete in 20 years time. The main thing we will need to keep pace with might the the sights and that is it. The basic concept remains the same and for that very reason we see that G3 even today is a potent gun.

I asked a friend to ask someone in Army and he is coming up with a name MP4 A2 I am telling him no such Gun exists but he is insisting. I am going to end up in mental hospital before final decision takes place @balixd

Have you thought that he might be referring to M4A2? That extra "P" might be a type or may be a an indication of "Pakistan" version/Made in Pakistan version. The gun surely fits the profile and we do use M4s already with SF using A1 variant.

Are you sure it is not some other variant but different oem?? What i have heard it is PWS

Just sharing a pic bro.

Also not sure if there is an other variant of SIG716 by different manufacturer. What was that about? what were your referring to? sorry i missed the point. PWS? (those MKs sure look awesome )

Mate check wiki of Pakistan army military equipment apparently ak-103 is going to replace g3 ​

Take it with a pinch of salt!!
Fanboys do manage to access wikipedia and we know people even here who would even hack ISPR (if they can) to announce the AK103 or SCAR or another gun they "like" have been selected just to feel happy.

 

[Zarvan]

Guns wont evolve at that pace that will make, lets say CZ Bern, obsolete in 20 years time. The main thing we will need to keep pace with might the the sights and that is it. The basic concept remains the same and for that very reason we see that G3 even today is a potent gun.


Have you thought that he might be referring to M4A2? That extra "P" might be a type or may be a an indication of "Pakistan" version/Made in Pakistan version. The gun surely fits the profile and we do use M4s already with SF using A1 variant.



Just sharing a pic bro.

Also not sure if there is an other variant of SIG716 by different manufacturer. What was that about? what were your referring to? sorry i missed the point. PWS? (those MKs sure look awesome )


Take it with a pinch of salt!!
Fanboys do manage to access wikipedia and we know people even here who would even hack ISPR (if they can) to announce the AK103 or SCAR or another gun they "like" have been selected just to feel happy.

M4A2 is 5.56 X 45 not 7.62