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Pakistan's sedition sweep in Gilgit-Baltistan

As said before. With hundreds and thousands of troops in a very small region, such tourism doesn't hide the truth that there is a freedom struggle in that region. Can you count us the number of curfews and strikes in Sri Nagar this year alone?

But why I am talking to you? You are going to be Hindu till 2020 anyways. :lol:

I dont know from where did you get the number of troops deployed in J&K but as many number of troops were there during 1990s and early 2000 but there were no tourists. tourists go to a place for fun, peace and recreation and these are available when the place is peaceful.

We have enough Zaid Hamids in our country and unfortunately they dont visit saudi arabia. If i am going to become a hindu in 2020 then you too are not far behind, rest of the world will become hindu by 2030.
 
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Sadly for you, while Pakistani flags appearing in IOK is a regular feature, people in GB probably don't even know or care what an Indian flag looks like. :D
not exactly :D
if we choose to support factions in GB like u do to in Indian kashmir,it will be a tit for tat,,,aftrall both r UN recognized disputed territories.
they dont need to know about our flag,,,,,nor they need to know tht its us that is supporting thm,,,GB ppl can use any flag,,,,anythng othr thn Pakistan flag suits us.
 
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Lies lies and more lies. As said before. Go fool your own compatriots with these lies. Our time is too precious to first read all these lies and then answer them. :)

Ok...let us stop discussing this issue, because it is hard to wake up a person who is pretending to be asleep.
 
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I dont know from where did you get the number of troops deployed in J&K but as many number of troops were there during 1990s and early 2000 but there were no tourists. tourists go to a place for fun, peace and recreation and these are available when the place is peaceful.

We have enough Zaid Hamids in our country and unfortunately they dont visit saudi arabia. If i am going to become a hindu in 2020 then you too are not far behind, rest of the world will become hindu by 2030.

Tourism is no proof that there is no movement in IoK. People are more towards protests and peaceful struggle for freedom than armed struggle nowadays so that's why the peace. There are hundreds of thousands of troops in IoK. You can check yourself. You didn't answer how many strikes and curfews in Srinagar this year. Ok. Only this month??

Don't worry about us. We know how to protect our self. Can't say the same about you guys. :lol:

Ok...let us stop discussing this issue, because it is hard to wake up a person who is pretending to be asleep.

Perfectly applies to you. Not only you are pretending to be sleep, you are coming up with very shameful lies too.
 
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,anythng othr thn Pakistan flag suits us.
kyu yar? ghar ki dal baraber :partay:
Is me kiya burai hai :pakistan:
come on now dont act stranger, after all, we are neighbours.

I remember when i came to uk in 90's, i was clueless and i was really helped by Indians who were shouting on Goras who were trying con me. They were like teri pehn nu **!@#%%$ AND THEY SAID YE GORAY BARAY &^%$# hot ehain ap batao jana kaha hai.
finding familiar face in Foreign land was so relieving trust me. I automatically naturally felt more inclined towards them
 
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Pakistan's sedition sweep in Gilgit-Baltistan - Al Jazeera English

Gilgit, Pakistan - The Pakistani government appears to be cracking down on dissent in Gilgit-Baltistan, a mountainous region of vital importance to Pakistan's alliance with China.

Since last October, more than 50 activists have been charged with sedition for calling for greater self-rule in the region, which is controlled by Pakistan but claimed by India.

Gilgit-Baltistan, which borders China, Afghanistan, and Kashmir, has not been granted full constitutional status by Islamabad - meaning that it is not an official province, and that its residents cannot vote in national elections.

Chinese President Xi Jinping was given a red-carpet welcome when he visited Pakistan this April.

The two countries signed a series of memoranda to build highways, power plants, gas pipelines, and an expansion of the port of Gwadar on the Indian Ocean, which Beijing hopes will become a major outlet for its burgeoning manufacturing industry.
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MAP of Pakistan and CHina [Al Jazeera]

China is expected to pour more than $46bn into the projects, which are the largest foreign investment that cash-strapped Pakistan has ever seen.

Islamabad and Beijing have had a military alliance since the 1960s, when the countries' armies built the Karakoram Highway connecting China's western Xinjiang province with Gilgit-Baltistan, which was called the Northern Areas until 2009.

Pakistan has used the region to launch several offensives in an attempt to wrest control of Indian-held territory in neighbouring Kashmir.

In 1963, Pakistan ceded part of the region to China - much to the chagrin of India, which has fought a war with Beijing over control of the area.

India maintains that Gilgit-Baltistan is a part of Kashmir, and belongs to it. Several United Nations Security Council resolutions have called for a plebiscite in Gilgit-Baltistan and Kashmir to determine their political status, and a small contingent of international military observers maintain a presence in Gilgit and Srinagar, the capital of Indian-controlled Kashmir.

A trade route for China

Throughout its conflict with India, Pakistan has found China to be its only local ally, and India has long accused the two countries of building the Karakoram Highway to allow the movement of troops in the region.

The highway will become the main artery for the planned China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, a network of roads for transporting Chinese goods through Pakistan.

These development plans, argue activists in Gilgit-Baltistan, is why Islamabad is anxious to squelch dissent from residents of the region.

"China wants to send its goods through here, and Pakistan is looking for its own benefits," claimed Baba Jan, one of hundreds of political activists in Gilgit-Baltistan who have found themselves at the centre of the government crackdown in the region.

Last year, Jan was among 12 people who were given multiple life sentences by a special anti-terrorism court, which was set up to prosecute the Taliban and al-Qaeda, for charges that include sedition against the state.

The sentences came in response to protests that took place in the town of Aliabad in 2012, which criticised Islamabad for not following through on promises to provide aid to those displaced by a landslide a year earlier.

Police killed two men trying to disperse the protesters, triggering riots in which residents burned down dozens of government buildings in the region. Jan and more than 100 others were arrested, and Islamabad initially threatened to prosecute all of them in anti-terrorism courts for sedition.

"There is a fundamental right to protest in Pakistan, but it is not being given to us," Jan told Al Jazeera from his prison cell in the city of Gakuch, where he is awaiting a ruling in an appeals court.

"We were never violent. We just stood in the road and talked to people," Jan said.

This June, Jan ran his election campaign for the Gilgit-Baltistan Legislative Assembly from his prison cell, coming in second place.

The polls drew criticism from India, which called them "an attempt by Pakistan to camouflage its forcible and illegal occupation of the region".

Pakistan, in turn, levelled the same charges against India, saying troops maintained an "illegal hold" on its portion of neighbouring Kashmir, and that polls there were "sham elections" held "at gunpoint" that violated UN resolutions maintaining the region was disputed territory.

More than 400 candidates stood for election last month to the 24-seat assembly, which has no powers to legislate important matters like how the region's natural resources are used, or how trade with neighbouring China is conducted.

A central issue was the new China corridor, which Jan, along with a handful of other activists who ran for the assembly, see as a slight to locals.

"They should have asked people what they want," said Jan. "Our environment will be destroyed. The local people were not given any option to give their input."

Naeem, a truck driver in Gilgit, was also unhappy about the plan. "What are we going to get from this deal? We can't even control our own border. Pakistan will collect customs from China, and it will go to Islamabad."

'Making chutney'

In the lead-up to the polls, more than 50 activists were arrested and charged with sedition, said Israr-ud-din Israr, the local representative of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan .

Israr argued that the charge of sedition itself makes no sense in Gilgit-Baltistan, since Pakistan's constitution makes no mention of the region, and in international fora Islamabad maintains that the region is part of the dispute with India over Kashmir.

Because of its disputed nature, Giglit-Baltistan has not been made a province, so the only laws that apply there are those extended by the prime minister.

Spokespeople for the Pakistani prime minister's office and the foreign ministry did not respond to queries from Al Jazeera. The Ministry of Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan Affairs, which manages the region, refused to give a comment also, as did local officials, including the District Commissioner, the highest local officer.

"How can there be sedition here?" asked Israr.

"I hold a Pakistani ID card, but I cannot vote for people in parliament. I cannot become prime minister or a member of parliament. I do not fit the description of a citizen, according to the constitution," Israr stated.

Last October, Israr and nine others were charged with sedition after they led a march to the UN observer's office in Gilgit to deliver a letter calling for the organisation to look into the arrest of Bab Jan and other activists, whom they termed "political prisoners".

The case against Israr and the others was thrown out by an appeals court, but the campaign picked up steam.

This February, 19 people who spoke at a seminar in Gilgit entitled "Gilgit-Baltistan in Light of the Kashmir Dispute" were arrested and charged with sedition, because they referred to the region as a "disputed" territory.

This June, eight activists were beaten and arrested by police as they attempted to deliver a letter to the UN observers in Gilgit calling the planned elections "illegal", and demanding a plebiscite be held to determine the region's political status.

"India and Pakistan are making chutney with us," said Jan. "No one cares about the people here, their economy, their real problems."

Separatists sympathizers in Gilgit Baltistan number only around a couple hundred; in IoK its hundreds of thousands.
 
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try hard my friend :oops: almost every family of GB have atleast one member in pakistan armed forces :oops:
That helps. We are peddling the 'See you serving the PA, but not getting self rule' lines. And we are making inroads. :)
 
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According to tour operators, around 15,000 to 20,000 tourists, including mountaineers, visit Pakistan each year during summer. Each of them spends over $5,000.

Promoting tourism: G-B govt eases travel restrictions for foreign tourists - The Express Tribune

these figures are of foreign tourists do keep this thing in mind these figures are of bad times when war terror was on its peak and nanga parbat incidents also hit our foreigners visit soon it will be boosted more as local tourists moving to Gb for summer vacations are increasing day by day :D
I wish all the best for tourism in your country and hope for the peace.
 
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kyu yar? ghar ki dal baraber :partay:
Is me kiya burai hai :pakistan:
come on now dont act stranger, after all, we are neighbours.

I remember when i came to uk in 90's, i was clueless and i was really helped by Indians who were shouting on Goras who were trying con me. They were like teri pehn nu **!@#%%$ AND THEY SAID YE GORAY BARAY &^%$# hot ehain ap batao jana kaha hai.
finding familiar face in Foreign land was so relieving trust me. I automatically naturally felt more inclined towards them
No friendship until we get dal. :D
 
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Perfectly applies to you. Not only you are pretending to be sleep, you are coming up with very shameful lies too.

As I said I have first hand information while you have second and third hand information. I guess, you know who is right.
 
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That helps. We are peddling the 'See you serving the PA, but not getting self rule' lines. And we are making inroads. :)


I dont know why people of GB will create mess for them selves when they are already having way better life than people in kashmir who are on gun point can be shot any time with some drunk indian soldier
 
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True .... We should provide moral and financial support to these oppressed people afterall it is a UN acknowledged disputed territory .

oooo kakay tumhara ada India separation movement may hey lol ham shuru hogaye tu peshaab he nikal jana hey tumhara hahahhahaha

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Told you not to make a try since you can't come up with any picture like us. But you are one stubborn b@stard with no shame at all unlike your father(me) who is a man of dignity. This picture is after the 1971 war when East Pakistan became BD and aircraft was not captured during an aerial combat like it was in your case. This is the reason that Sabre is in Tezgaon BD and not in India. After all you just can't take an aircraft to your country if you didn't force it to land like we did to IAF. :lol:

Try again my son. Bring something like generous IAF who offered aircraft during aerial combats. :D

Since you are a retarded b@stard with multiple father(s) one among them being me unfortunately you won't have something called comprehension skills , And it is certainly not our problem your pilots chose to ran off rather than fight .. :lol:

How about generous Pakistan who gave half the country and 90K POW ..:D
 
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