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A lot has already been said in favor of a brilliant and well balanced address of Prime Minister Imran Khan at UNGA. Even many of his critics thoroughly enjoyed and praised PMIK's speech and have been seen saying "proud of being a Pakistani today" after quite a long time. His speech was heard across the globe and at one point, #ImranKhanVoiceOfKashmir became a top trend on twitter. Approximately a million tweets have been posted since, which means that his address (positively or negatively... doesn't matter) is being discussed all over the world on social media.

The four concerns raised in PMIK's speech were placed in an extremely intelligent way. People might say that he wasn't reading from his notes, but honestly speaking, it wasn't a speech without a thorough preparation. The words he used, the sentences he spoke, the emotions he showed and the warnings he delivered were so nicely connected, and the concerns were so logically lined up, that it seemed Pakistani mission contracted a psychologist in addition to many other experts to assist in formulating this masterpiece delivered by PMIK today.

He started with environmental concerns, which attracted many people who might not know about the sub-continent let alone Kashmir, proving himself as a concerned citizen of the planet Earth. After attracting environmentalists (and everyone now considers himself as one) and those who are badly affected by global warming, he tried to attract all the countries that face poverty due to corruption supported by the richer economies by creating tax heavens. This speech is a reminder to those countries which only blame the third world countries of plunder-friendly laws, but conveniently close their eyes on their actions to provide security to the wealth of looters and money launderers. His address will also impact the next session of FATF as PMIK has tried to capture moral high ground here. It was then a turn to attract Muslims. The way he presented Islam I can see that every Muslim who has listened to his speech will do some soul searching. Has anyone from the Muslim Ummah raised these points at a liberal forum with such a confidence before him? In his 5 minutes, he completely separated radicals (belonging to any religion) from the mainstream. It was one of the best, if not the best defense of Islam in current turbulent times.

Once he gathered the attention of the above, he started his onslaught against India on Kashmir. I am sure 90% of the concerned Indian population might have changed the tv channels and gone back to bollywood songs during his address.

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OK, enough said about the address. 2019 has been an eventful year for all three parties i.e. Pakistan, India and Kashmiris. So far, Pakistan has responded effectively to the limited strikes, 5th generation war on media, and on the diplomatic fronts. For Indians, it was a good year indeed as they annexed Kashmir quite easily by striking or amending a couple of articles in their constitution. Realistically speaking, world will keep its eyes closed due to a over-a-billion-people's-market even after PMIK's desperate efforts to wake up the conscience of the world's leaders. In these desperate times, money can easily be preferred over justice, no doubt about it. We have been haplessly and helplessly watching the land being snatched from Palestinians and no one could do anything to stop Israelis.

Pakistan has played almost all the diplomatic cards as of today. By not escalating the situation in February this year and returning the Indian pilot, by engaging ourselves in the Afghan peace process, by offering our help in Middle East's crisis, by raining environmental concerns and by using different platforms to convey Kashmiri plight, we have shown the world that we are a peaceful nation which believes in coexistence. But is this enough? What if world again goes to sleep and we end up as a lone voice on Kashmir? Will India take any measures to help Kashmiris? What if India lifts curfew but Kashmiris are not able to put up a strong Taliban like resistance on their own? Will we continue to prove ourselves as a peaceful non-violent nation and helplessly see our brethren in Kashmir getting killed, sisters getting raped and children getting kidnapped?

This is now crystal clear that Pakistan will not support any proxy war, and will not initiate a limited or full scale war. My question to all Pakistani forum members.. What now? Please shed some light on what do you think about the next few months/ years.. and predict the next steps of India and Pakistan.


@Dubious @Mangus Ortus Novem @Shane @Signalian @ali_raza @Path-Finder @war&peace @Areesh @Farah Sohail @Zibago and others
 
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[Moses said] I think, O Pharaoh, you are doomed (Sura El Israa, Ayet#102)

Only time will tell for you never can tell!!! And, time isn’t without its MASTER, who happens to be ALL KNOWING, ALL SEING, ALL HEARING, ALL POWERFUL over all matters....

As for IK, it again shows the power of words spoken with Iman and Ihlas; the rest are all details....
 
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For kashmir, its upto kashmiris themselves now, pak have showed and played all the cards, for india they have been tight lipped regarding kashmir. They would be going back door to calm down local polticans before lifting curfew, but on their time of chosing.
The interesting and the most imp thing to look ahead would be indo pak relations, both the leaders are opposite poles and finding middle ground between them would be like finding a way to heaven, which is everybody's guess but everybody's wish!
 
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For kashmir, its upto kashmiris themselves now, pak have showed and played all the cards, for india they have been tight lipped regarding kashmir. They would be going back door to calm down local polticans before lifting curfew, but on their time of chosing.
The interesting and the most imp thing to look ahead would be indo pak relations, both the leaders are opposite poles and finding middle ground between them would be like finding a way to heaven, which is everybody's guess but everybody's wish!
If Kashmiris put up a strong resistance, it will be very easy for Pakistan to support them. But if they don't, I think that's game over.. without a proxy war, it is more or less over.
 
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speech was great but if we repeatedly make good speeches with no military action against india in iok world will only consider it as bluff and will not take us serious
 
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If Kashmiris put up a strong resistance, it will be very easy for Pakistan to support them. But if they don't, I think that's game over.. without a proxy war, it is more or less over.

That will be the end for kashmiris, but what about pak india relationship? Where does that go? In the indian ocean?
 
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If Kashmiris put up a strong resistance, it will be very easy for Pakistan to support them. But if they don't, I think that's game over.. without a proxy war, it is more or less over.
No, the game is going to be over for Gangadesh and her supporters ...inshaAllah
 
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Salaam

A lot has already been said in favor of a brilliant and well balanced address of Prime Minister Imran Khan at UNGA. Even many of his critics thoroughly enjoyed and praised PMIK's speech and have been seen saying "proud of being a Pakistani today" after quite a long time. His speech was heard across the globe and at one point, #ImranKhanVoiceOfKashmir became a top trend on twitter. Approximately a million tweets have been posted since, which means that his address (positively or negatively... doesn't matter) is being discussed all over the world on social media.

The four concerns raised in PMIK's speech were placed in an extremely intelligent way. People might say that he wasn't reading from his notes, but honestly speaking, it wasn't a speech without a thorough preparation. The words he used, the sentences he spoke, the emotions he showed and the warnings he delivered were so nicely connected, and the concerns were so logically lined up, that it seemed Pakistani mission contracted a psychologist in addition to many other experts to assist in formulating this masterpiece delivered by PMIK today.

He started with environmental concerns, which attracted many people who might not know about the sub-continent let alone Kashmir, proving himself as a concerned citizen of the planet Earth. After attracting environmentalists (and everyone now considers himself as one) and those who are badly affected by global warming, he tried to attract all the countries that face poverty due to corruption supported by the richer economies by creating tax heavens. This speech is a reminder to those countries which only blame the third world countries of plunder-friendly laws, but conveniently close their eyes on their actions to provide security to the wealth of looters and money launderers. His address will also impact the next session of FATF as PMIK has tried to capture moral high ground here. It was then a turn to attract Muslims. The way he presented Islam I can see that every Muslim who has listened to his speech will do some soul searching. Has anyone from the Muslim Ummah raised these points at a liberal forum with such a confidence before him? In his 5 minutes, he completely separated radicals (belonging to any religion) from the mainstream. It was one of the best, if not the best defense of Islam in current turbulent times.

Once he gathered the attention of the above, he started his onslaught against India on Kashmir. I am sure 90% of the concerned Indian population might have changed the tv channels and gone back to bollywood songs during his address.

============================================

OK, enough said about the address. 2019 has been an eventful year for all three parties i.e. Pakistan, India and Kashmiris. So far, Pakistan has responded effectively to the limited strikes, 5th generation war on media, and on the diplomatic fronts. For Indians, it was a good year indeed as they annexed Kashmir quite easily by striking or amending a couple of articles in their constitution. Realistically speaking, world will keep its eyes closed due to a over-a-billion-people's-market even after PMIK's desperate efforts to wake up the conscience of the world's leaders. In these desperate times, money can easily be preferred over justice, no doubt about it. We have been haplessly and helplessly watching the land being snatched from Palestinians and no one could do anything to stop Israelis.

Pakistan has played almost all the diplomatic cards as of today. By not escalating the situation in February this year and returning the Indian pilot, by engaging ourselves in the Afghan peace process, by offering our help in Middle East's crisis, by raining environmental concerns and by using different platforms to convey Kashmiri plight, we have shown the world that we are a peaceful nation which believes in coexistence. But is this enough? What if world again goes to sleep and we end up as a lone voice on Kashmir? Will India take any measures to help Kashmiris? What if India lifts curfew but Kashmiris are not able to put up a strong Taliban like resistance on their own? Will we continue to prove ourselves as a peaceful non-violent nation and helplessly see our brethren in Kashmir getting killed, sisters getting raped and children getting kidnapped?

This is now crystal clear that Pakistan will not support any proxy war, and will not initiate a limited or full scale war. My question to all Pakistani forum members.. What now? Please shed some light on what do you think about the next few months/ years.. and predict the next steps of India and Pakistan.


@Dubious @Mangus Ortus Novem @Shane @Signalian @ali_raza @Path-Finder @war&peace @Areesh @Farah Sohail @Zibago and others

I think the end of the speech hinted at how he thinks the situation would unfold.

If oppression continues - Muslims from Kashmir, India and the world may get radicalised and pick up arms. Attacks could happen in Kashmir or even in India.

Just because you don't have open training camps and hafiz Saeed types going about - doesn't mean you can't support the resistance fighters in Kashmir.

We don't run Talib training camps - and not have for a lpng time. However, there is likely a reason they listen to us still.

There's many ways to skin a cat - and I think we've learnt a few along the years.

We can support the resistance - we just have to do it with plausible - not necessarily perfect - deniability.

[Moses said] I think, O Pharaoh, you are doomed (Sura El Israa, Ayet#102)

Only time will tell for you never can tell!!! And, time isn’t without its MASTER, who happens to be ALL KNOWING, ALL SEING, ALL HEARING, ALL POWERFUL over all matters....

As for IK, it again shows the power of words spoken with Iman and Ihlas; the rest are all details....

I also believe that once we have tied our camel we must remember that Sovereignty belongs to Allah - and all that entails. La hawla wala quwata ila billah is, after all, a fundamental part of Islamic belief.

So Allah Wills will most certainly happen. Whether he chooses to keep the leash short or long is upto Him and Him alone.
 
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