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Pakistanis open hearts for Chinese while Beijing keeps its doors locked
  • A common notion prevails that Chinese are only interested in exploiting Pakistan’s business potential to boost dwindling domestic growth while serving Beijing’s ambitious plans
Analysis Published on December 10, 2017 (Edited December 10, 2017)
by Dawood Rehman

With most lucrative and low-risk opportunities, Pakistan has just started to turn the global investors on. The South Asian country is keeping its door open to its brothers-in-business, the Chinese, and it is changing the face of the nation.

A growing number of Chinese nationals are coming to Pakistan in the wake of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC).Roughly, more than 71,000 Chinese nationals visited Pakistan in 2016, and nearly 27,600 visa extensions were granted in that year, up by around 41 per cent from a year earlier.And, it is just the beginning!

Despite all-weather friendly relations between the two countries which recently took a tandem flight of development under China’s Belt & Road initiative, Pakistanis don’t enjoy the same privilege in getting Chinese visa as easier as their northern neighbours do.

As Pakistanis are welcoming their neighbours with open hearts, a common notion prevails that the feelings are not mutual and the Chinese are only interested in exploiting Pakistan’s business potential to boost dwindling domestic growth while serving Beijing’s ambitious plans.

A rising number of people in Pakistan’s business community are now voicing their concerns about visas for China becoming increasingly difficult to get. Moreover, even when they are granted, the validity period is seldom more than three months, and they are for single entry only.

“It felt like I was going to India, Pakistan’s arch-rival, with only one exception – Pakistanis are allowed to travel across the mainland China unlike in the eastern neighbour,” said Muhammad Mohsin, a chemicals trader from Lahore, recalling his first visit to China six years ago.

Regrettably, the situation hasn’t improved much and according to Mr Mohsin, getting a Chinese visa is still an uphill task for even those businessmen who have dealt with Chinese counterparts for last decade and have been frequent travelers, not to mention the long queues of Pakistani traders outside Chinese embassy.

“We have to wait for hours to get our documents processed. But the travel agents, who have made some kind of arrangement with embassy officials, could submit dozens of visa forms even on holidays at Chinese embassy or consulates,” Mr Mohsin told Daily Pakistan.

Chinese nationals seeking business visas are required to present only an invitation from a recognised body at any of Pakistan’s missions in China.
Besides this, he added, the duration of stay allowed for Pakistani nationals is significantly shorter than that of Chinese nationals. In one case, the Lahore-based businessman shared, his Chinese guest was allowed 30-day stay by Pakistani embassy while Mr Mohsin, despite multiple visits abroad, could not travel across China for more than a couple of weeks.

He also highlighted the ease with which Chinese nationals can get visa – a photocopy or email is enough as proof of invitation – while, on the other hand, Pakistani nationals have to submit all the original documents to the Foreign ministry for visa processing.

Another aspect of the sad story surfaced when a Pakistani doctor who recently applied for Chinese visa from the United States told Daily Pakistan that he had his documents processed within few hours. This preferential treatment towards the applicants from outside of Pakistan points out that there is still much more to do for the people inside the country – issuing them easier visit visa is on top of the list.

Although the Chinese Embassy in Pakistan says it has been processing visas for Pakistanis on the basis of international conventions and “the principal of reciprocity,” the situation is even worse for first-time travelers who are being exploited by the travel agent mafia.

Beijing’s new regulations require business visitors to obtain an invitation from a Chinese company before applying for a visa. However, the requirement to have an invitation from a Chinese partner does not apply to Pakistanis carrying out CPEC projects. Such travelers can apply for visas without an invitation letter from a duly authorised entity.

Similarly, when members from Pakistan’s chambers of commerce visit China for the Canton Fair, they can apply for visas with invitation letters of Economic and Commercial Counselor’s Office of Chinese Embassy and letters of guarantee of their own chambers of commerce.

However, Pakistan is a nation of more than 220 million people, and not all of the businesses are associated with the CPEC yet many of them are planning to explore Chinese markets despite all the hassles.

According to bilateral arrangement, visa application is totally free for all Pakistanis, who are also welcome to the Chinese Embassy in Islamabad and Consulate General in Karachi to apply for visas by themselves with complete materials.

But, currently first-time visitors to China are paying Rs120,000to Rs250,000 to travel agents while the regular visitor to China hands over Rs35,000-40,000 for smooth application processing. Against a hefty fee, the agents make all arrangements for the character certificate as well as an invitation from Chinese businesses.

When contacted (through telephone), an agent at one of the renowned visa consultancy firms in Pakistan said new visas are “suspended” at the moment. He, however, did not detail the time duration when the visas for first-time visitors will be opened.

Also, for the last two years, the Chinese government has been asking for a police character certificate for first-time visa applicants as well as those who have not visited for the last two years.

Earlier this year, Pakistan tightened the relaxed visa regime to regulate the process of issuing visas to Chinese citizens visiting Pakistan on business or work-related visas.

Still, Chinese nationals seeking business visas are required to present only an invitation from a recognised body at any of Pakistan’s missions in China. However, showing due diligence, in June, the interior ministry decided to discourage long-term visa extensions for Chinese citizens.And it is indeed getting in effect as Weirui Zheng, a Chinese working as a language teacher in Lahore, told Daily Pakistan that she has been waiting for last three months to get her visa extended.

However, as Ms Zheng shared, it was pretty much easier for her to visit here and get her visa extended after refilling the form than most of her Pakistani friends who could only dream to visit China without any hassle.

Pakistani citizens are now demanding Beijing should value its neigbours equally, especially those who intend to learn the culture and explore the Chinese markets. A relaxed and hassle-free visa processing would not only develop long-term ties between people of the two countries but also act as a bridge to reduce cultural differences.

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  • A common notion prevails that Chinese are only interested in exploiting Pakistan’s business potential to boost dwindling domestic growth while serving Beijing’s ambitious plans
Analysis Published on December 10, 2017 (Edited December 10, 2017)
by Dawood Rehman

With most lucrative and low-risk opportunities, Pakistan has just started to turn the global investors on. The South Asian country is keeping its door open to its brothers-in-business, the Chinese, and it is changing the face of the nation.

A growing number of Chinese nationals are coming to Pakistan in the wake of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC).Roughly, more than 71,000 Chinese nationals visited Pakistan in 2016, and nearly 27,600 visa extensions were granted in that year, up by around 41 per cent from a year earlier.And, it is just the beginning!

Despite all-weather friendly relations between the two countries which recently took a tandem flight of development under China’s Belt & Road initiative, Pakistanis don’t enjoy the same privilege in getting Chinese visa as easier as their northern neighbours do.

As Pakistanis are welcoming their neighbours with open hearts, a common notion prevails that the feelings are not mutual and the Chinese are only interested in exploiting Pakistan’s business potential to boost dwindling domestic growth while serving Beijing’s ambitious plans.

A rising number of people in Pakistan’s business community are now voicing their concerns about visas for China becoming increasingly difficult to get. Moreover, even when they are granted, the validity period is seldom more than three months, and they are for single entry only.

“It felt like I was going to India, Pakistan’s arch-rival, with only one exception – Pakistanis are allowed to travel across the mainland China unlike in the eastern neighbour,” said Muhammad Mohsin, a chemicals trader from Lahore, recalling his first visit to China six years ago.

Regrettably, the situation hasn’t improved much and according to Mr Mohsin, getting a Chinese visa is still an uphill task for even those businessmen who have dealt with Chinese counterparts for last decade and have been frequent travelers, not to mention the long queues of Pakistani traders outside Chinese embassy.

“We have to wait for hours to get our documents processed. But the travel agents, who have made some kind of arrangement with embassy officials, could submit dozens of visa forms even on holidays at Chinese embassy or consulates,” Mr Mohsin told Daily Pakistan.

Chinese nationals seeking business visas are required to present only an invitation from a recognised body at any of Pakistan’s missions in China.
Besides this, he added, the duration of stay allowed for Pakistani nationals is significantly shorter than that of Chinese nationals. In one case, the Lahore-based businessman shared, his Chinese guest was allowed 30-day stay by Pakistani embassy while Mr Mohsin, despite multiple visits abroad, could not travel across China for more than a couple of weeks.

He also highlighted the ease with which Chinese nationals can get visa – a photocopy or email is enough as proof of invitation – while, on the other hand, Pakistani nationals have to submit all the original documents to the Foreign ministry for visa processing.

Another aspect of the sad story surfaced when a Pakistani doctor who recently applied for Chinese visa from the United States told Daily Pakistan that he had his documents processed within few hours. This preferential treatment towards the applicants from outside of Pakistan points out that there is still much more to do for the people inside the country – issuing them easier visit visa is on top of the list.

Although the Chinese Embassy in Pakistan says it has been processing visas for Pakistanis on the basis of international conventions and “the principal of reciprocity,” the situation is even worse for first-time travelers who are being exploited by the travel agent mafia.

Beijing’s new regulations require business visitors to obtain an invitation from a Chinese company before applying for a visa. However, the requirement to have an invitation from a Chinese partner does not apply to Pakistanis carrying out CPEC projects. Such travelers can apply for visas without an invitation letter from a duly authorised entity.

Similarly, when members from Pakistan’s chambers of commerce visit China for the Canton Fair, they can apply for visas with invitation letters of Economic and Commercial Counselor’s Office of Chinese Embassy and letters of guarantee of their own chambers of commerce.

However, Pakistan is a nation of more than 220 million people, and not all of the businesses are associated with the CPEC yet many of them are planning to explore Chinese markets despite all the hassles.

According to bilateral arrangement, visa application is totally free for all Pakistanis, who are also welcome to the Chinese Embassy in Islamabad and Consulate General in Karachi to apply for visas by themselves with complete materials.

But, currently first-time visitors to China are paying Rs120,000to Rs250,000 to travel agents while the regular visitor to China hands over Rs35,000-40,000 for smooth application processing. Against a hefty fee, the agents make all arrangements for the character certificate as well as an invitation from Chinese businesses.

When contacted (through telephone), an agent at one of the renowned visa consultancy firms in Pakistan said new visas are “suspended” at the moment. He, however, did not detail the time duration when the visas for first-time visitors will be opened.

Also, for the last two years, the Chinese government has been asking for a police character certificate for first-time visa applicants as well as those who have not visited for the last two years.

Earlier this year, Pakistan tightened the relaxed visa regime to regulate the process of issuing visas to Chinese citizens visiting Pakistan on business or work-related visas.

Still, Chinese nationals seeking business visas are required to present only an invitation from a recognised body at any of Pakistan’s missions in China. However, showing due diligence, in June, the interior ministry decided to discourage long-term visa extensions for Chinese citizens.And it is indeed getting in effect as Weirui Zheng, a Chinese working as a language teacher in Lahore, told Daily Pakistan that she has been waiting for last three months to get her visa extended.

However, as Ms Zheng shared, it was pretty much easier for her to visit here and get her visa extended after refilling the form than most of her Pakistani friends who could only dream to visit China without any hassle.

Pakistani citizens are now demanding Beijing should value its neigbours equally, especially those who intend to learn the culture and explore the Chinese markets. A relaxed and hassle-free visa processing would not only develop long-term ties between people of the two countries but also act as a bridge to reduce cultural differences.

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Pakistanis open hearts for Chinese while Beijing keeps its doors locked
  • A common notion prevails that Chinese are only interested in exploiting Pakistan’s business potential to boost dwindling domestic growth while serving Beijing’s ambitious plans
Analysis Published on December 10, 2017 (Edited December 10, 2017)
by Dawood Rehman

With most lucrative and low-risk opportunities, Pakistan has just started to turn the global investors on. The South Asian country is keeping its door open to its brothers-in-business, the Chinese, and it is changing the face of the nation.

A growing number of Chinese nationals are coming to Pakistan in the wake of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC).Roughly, more than 71,000 Chinese nationals visited Pakistan in 2016, and nearly 27,600 visa extensions were granted in that year, up by around 41 per cent from a year earlier.And, it is just the beginning!

Despite all-weather friendly relations between the two countries which recently took a tandem flight of development under China’s Belt & Road initiative, Pakistanis don’t enjoy the same privilege in getting Chinese visa as easier as their northern neighbours do.

As Pakistanis are welcoming their neighbours with open hearts, a common notion prevails that the feelings are not mutual and the Chinese are only interested in exploiting Pakistan’s business potential to boost dwindling domestic growth while serving Beijing’s ambitious plans.

A rising number of people in Pakistan’s business community are now voicing their concerns about visas for China becoming increasingly difficult to get. Moreover, even when they are granted, the validity period is seldom more than three months, and they are for single entry only.

“It felt like I was going to India, Pakistan’s arch-rival, with only one exception – Pakistanis are allowed to travel across the mainland China unlike in the eastern neighbour,” said Muhammad Mohsin, a chemicals trader from Lahore, recalling his first visit to China six years ago.

Regrettably, the situation hasn’t improved much and according to Mr Mohsin, getting a Chinese visa is still an uphill task for even those businessmen who have dealt with Chinese counterparts for last decade and have been frequent travelers, not to mention the long queues of Pakistani traders outside Chinese embassy.

“We have to wait for hours to get our documents processed. But the travel agents, who have made some kind of arrangement with embassy officials, could submit dozens of visa forms even on holidays at Chinese embassy or consulates,” Mr Mohsin told Daily Pakistan.

Chinese nationals seeking business visas are required to present only an invitation from a recognised body at any of Pakistan’s missions in China.
Besides this, he added, the duration of stay allowed for Pakistani nationals is significantly shorter than that of Chinese nationals. In one case, the Lahore-based businessman shared, his Chinese guest was allowed 30-day stay by Pakistani embassy while Mr Mohsin, despite multiple visits abroad, could not travel across China for more than a couple of weeks.

He also highlighted the ease with which Chinese nationals can get visa – a photocopy or email is enough as proof of invitation – while, on the other hand, Pakistani nationals have to submit all the original documents to the Foreign ministry for visa processing.

Another aspect of the sad story surfaced when a Pakistani doctor who recently applied for Chinese visa from the United States told Daily Pakistan that he had his documents processed within few hours. This preferential treatment towards the applicants from outside of Pakistan points out that there is still much more to do for the people inside the country – issuing them easier visit visa is on top of the list.

Although the Chinese Embassy in Pakistan says it has been processing visas for Pakistanis on the basis of international conventions and “the principal of reciprocity,” the situation is even worse for first-time travelers who are being exploited by the travel agent mafia.

Beijing’s new regulations require business visitors to obtain an invitation from a Chinese company before applying for a visa. However, the requirement to have an invitation from a Chinese partner does not apply to Pakistanis carrying out CPEC projects. Such travelers can apply for visas without an invitation letter from a duly authorised entity.

Similarly, when members from Pakistan’s chambers of commerce visit China for the Canton Fair, they can apply for visas with invitation letters of Economic and Commercial Counselor’s Office of Chinese Embassy and letters of guarantee of their own chambers of commerce.

However, Pakistan is a nation of more than 220 million people, and not all of the businesses are associated with the CPEC yet many of them are planning to explore Chinese markets despite all the hassles.

According to bilateral arrangement, visa application is totally free for all Pakistanis, who are also welcome to the Chinese Embassy in Islamabad and Consulate General in Karachi to apply for visas by themselves with complete materials.

But, currently first-time visitors to China are paying Rs120,000to Rs250,000 to travel agents while the regular visitor to China hands over Rs35,000-40,000 for smooth application processing. Against a hefty fee, the agents make all arrangements for the character certificate as well as an invitation from Chinese businesses.

When contacted (through telephone), an agent at one of the renowned visa consultancy firms in Pakistan said new visas are “suspended” at the moment. He, however, did not detail the time duration when the visas for first-time visitors will be opened.

Also, for the last two years, the Chinese government has been asking for a police character certificate for first-time visa applicants as well as those who have not visited for the last two years.

Earlier this year, Pakistan tightened the relaxed visa regime to regulate the process of issuing visas to Chinese citizens visiting Pakistan on business or work-related visas.

Still, Chinese nationals seeking business visas are required to present only an invitation from a recognised body at any of Pakistan’s missions in China. However, showing due diligence, in June, the interior ministry decided to discourage long-term visa extensions for Chinese citizens.And it is indeed getting in effect as Weirui Zheng, a Chinese working as a language teacher in Lahore, told Daily Pakistan that she has been waiting for last three months to get her visa extended.

However, as Ms Zheng shared, it was pretty much easier for her to visit here and get her visa extended after refilling the form than most of her Pakistani friends who could only dream to visit China without any hassle.

Pakistani citizens are now demanding Beijing should value its neigbours equally, especially those who intend to learn the culture and explore the Chinese markets. A relaxed and hassle-free visa processing would not only develop long-term ties between people of the two countries but also act as a bridge to reduce cultural differences.

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  • A common notion prevails that Chinese are only interested in exploiting Pakistan’s business potential to boost dwindling domestic growth while serving Beijing’s ambitious plans
Analysis Published on December 10, 2017 (Edited December 10, 2017)
by Dawood Rehman

With most lucrative and low-risk opportunities, Pakistan has just started to turn the global investors on. The South Asian country is keeping its door open to its brothers-in-business, the Chinese, and it is changing the face of the nation.

A growing number of Chinese nationals are coming to Pakistan in the wake of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC).Roughly, more than 71,000 Chinese nationals visited Pakistan in 2016, and nearly 27,600 visa extensions were granted in that year, up by around 41 per cent from a year earlier.And, it is just the beginning!

Despite all-weather friendly relations between the two countries which recently took a tandem flight of development under China’s Belt & Road initiative, Pakistanis don’t enjoy the same privilege in getting Chinese visa as easier as their northern neighbours do.

As Pakistanis are welcoming their neighbours with open hearts, a common notion prevails that the feelings are not mutual and the Chinese are only interested in exploiting Pakistan’s business potential to boost dwindling domestic growth while serving Beijing’s ambitious plans.

A rising number of people in Pakistan’s business community are now voicing their concerns about visas for China becoming increasingly difficult to get. Moreover, even when they are granted, the validity period is seldom more than three months, and they are for single entry only.

“It felt like I was going to India, Pakistan’s arch-rival, with only one exception – Pakistanis are allowed to travel across the mainland China unlike in the eastern neighbour,” said Muhammad Mohsin, a chemicals trader from Lahore, recalling his first visit to China six years ago.

Regrettably, the situation hasn’t improved much and according to Mr Mohsin, getting a Chinese visa is still an uphill task for even those businessmen who have dealt with Chinese counterparts for last decade and have been frequent travelers, not to mention the long queues of Pakistani traders outside Chinese embassy.

“We have to wait for hours to get our documents processed. But the travel agents, who have made some kind of arrangement with embassy officials, could submit dozens of visa forms even on holidays at Chinese embassy or consulates,” Mr Mohsin told Daily Pakistan.

Chinese nationals seeking business visas are required to present only an invitation from a recognised body at any of Pakistan’s missions in China.
Besides this, he added, the duration of stay allowed for Pakistani nationals is significantly shorter than that of Chinese nationals. In one case, the Lahore-based businessman shared, his Chinese guest was allowed 30-day stay by Pakistani embassy while Mr Mohsin, despite multiple visits abroad, could not travel across China for more than a couple of weeks.

He also highlighted the ease with which Chinese nationals can get visa – a photocopy or email is enough as proof of invitation – while, on the other hand, Pakistani nationals have to submit all the original documents to the Foreign ministry for visa processing.

Another aspect of the sad story surfaced when a Pakistani doctor who recently applied for Chinese visa from the United States told Daily Pakistan that he had his documents processed within few hours. This preferential treatment towards the applicants from outside of Pakistan points out that there is still much more to do for the people inside the country – issuing them easier visit visa is on top of the list.

Although the Chinese Embassy in Pakistan says it has been processing visas for Pakistanis on the basis of international conventions and “the principal of reciprocity,” the situation is even worse for first-time travelers who are being exploited by the travel agent mafia.

Beijing’s new regulations require business visitors to obtain an invitation from a Chinese company before applying for a visa. However, the requirement to have an invitation from a Chinese partner does not apply to Pakistanis carrying out CPEC projects. Such travelers can apply for visas without an invitation letter from a duly authorised entity.

Similarly, when members from Pakistan’s chambers of commerce visit China for the Canton Fair, they can apply for visas with invitation letters of Economic and Commercial Counselor’s Office of Chinese Embassy and letters of guarantee of their own chambers of commerce.

However, Pakistan is a nation of more than 220 million people, and not all of the businesses are associated with the CPEC yet many of them are planning to explore Chinese markets despite all the hassles.

According to bilateral arrangement, visa application is totally free for all Pakistanis, who are also welcome to the Chinese Embassy in Islamabad and Consulate General in Karachi to apply for visas by themselves with complete materials.

But, currently first-time visitors to China are paying Rs120,000to Rs250,000 to travel agents while the regular visitor to China hands over Rs35,000-40,000 for smooth application processing. Against a hefty fee, the agents make all arrangements for the character certificate as well as an invitation from Chinese businesses.

When contacted (through telephone), an agent at one of the renowned visa consultancy firms in Pakistan said new visas are “suspended” at the moment. He, however, did not detail the time duration when the visas for first-time visitors will be opened.

Also, for the last two years, the Chinese government has been asking for a police character certificate for first-time visa applicants as well as those who have not visited for the last two years.

Earlier this year, Pakistan tightened the relaxed visa regime to regulate the process of issuing visas to Chinese citizens visiting Pakistan on business or work-related visas.

Still, Chinese nationals seeking business visas are required to present only an invitation from a recognised body at any of Pakistan’s missions in China. However, showing due diligence, in June, the interior ministry decided to discourage long-term visa extensions for Chinese citizens.And it is indeed getting in effect as Weirui Zheng, a Chinese working as a language teacher in Lahore, told Daily Pakistan that she has been waiting for last three months to get her visa extended.

However, as Ms Zheng shared, it was pretty much easier for her to visit here and get her visa extended after refilling the form than most of her Pakistani friends who could only dream to visit China without any hassle.

Pakistani citizens are now demanding Beijing should value its neigbours equally, especially those who intend to learn the culture and explore the Chinese markets. A relaxed and hassle-free visa processing would not only develop long-term ties between people of the two countries but also act as a bridge to reduce cultural differences.

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Best way to visit China:

1. Group Visa
2. Invitation

So to summarize, their county and their rules! Want to visit China? Speak to a travel tour operator with license!
 
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If you have a neighbour who has problem with mass rabies infection - much as friendly you might be to them but your going to have to restrict their entry in case the rabies infection spreads in your home. The Chinese are being prudent.

There're 18626 Pakistani students studying in PRC colleges, the scholarship awarded to Pakistani students is #1 among foreigners by 2016 statistics.
 
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If you have a neighbour who has problem with mass rabies infection - much as friendly you might be to them but your going to have to restrict their entry in case the rabies infection spreads in your home. The Chinese are being prudent.

You are too rude ...i mean they might be simply following the rules for rest of the developing nation too..That may be their policy for all countries...
 
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Have to say that some religious radicals traveled to Pakistan and got brainwashed by some religious radical faith, after they came back to Xinjiang they made a lot of troubles and disturbance. We trust the Pakistan government but probably for now the infiltrators still can't be totally stopped by the local authorities, China fears social instability in this region.

I don't want to lie, but that's the fact, it won't hurt the friendly feelings we Chinese hold toward Pakistan the least, but we do have our worries.
 
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we should not let common chines to do business on streets or open shops unless they employ locals.no one man vendor business should allow on the streets.
Even in big projects, they have to employ at least 75% local labor force unlike bring 100% from china.becuae these projects are not free.we are giving them huge margin of profits.
Gov should protect rights of its people.otherwise there is big chance ordinary people will turn against cpec if they didn't see any direct benefits to them.
i am against afghan business also.it was a big mistake of our gov let them spread all over pakistan.they should be restricted them like iran.

These are purely my thoughts.i didn't read the article in the op.
 
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Here comes the Indian Propaganda machine watch out :close_tema:

Obviously the journalist is quite key author with great Indian content as his past projects
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Pakistan needs to have certain Journalistic standards in reporting
 
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There're 18626 Pakistani students studying in PRC colleges, the scholarship awarded to Pakistani students is #1 among foreigners by 2016 statistics.
That is good but let me make this clear to everybody including the Chinese.

(1) I want the Chinese to exercise maximum discrimination. Please do not let any Pakistanis in who are even mildly infected with religious extremism.

(2) I would prefer the Chinese to actively make allowance for Pakistani secularists and place the religious radical at bottom of the pile or just refuse them entry. Period.

This is not being rude. This is being pragmatic. This is being prudent. China is a athiest society and possibly one of the few places left in the world where Pakistan might make a success. I would not want some mutts with beards going to Bejing, Shanghai or Kashgar and blowing themselves up on behalf of the ummah. To put it bluntly I don't want Pakistani's doing what they have done in the West. A few prime examples -

New York, USA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faisal_Shahzad
San Bardinino, USA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rizwan_Farook_and_Tashfeen_Malik

Even one such incident by Pakistani deluded in the ummah dream would be catastrophic for Chinese perception of Pakistanis. In addition by China actively showing preferance for secular Pakistanis would be helping China in the long run by building up the secular forces inside Pakistan.

China has to ask itself a simple question. In the long run what would tango with China better? A religious hellhole or a progressive secular forward looking country open and comfortable with diversity. Surely a secular Pakistan would dance better with a socialist athiest China. I think it's a no brainer. So I ask Cjhinese brothers don't let any body in who resembles these guys or holds views in sync with them.


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Only in the alternate universe of PDF, China and Pakistan are on equal footing. In the actual universe, everybody knows who's the dominant partner in this relationship.

Anyways, China wants to avoid the culturally insensitive and religiously regressive lot coming from Pakistan. If they ease restrictions, China would be flooded by our desperate people. China's policy is understandable.
 
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That is good but let me make this clear to everybody including the Chinese.

(1) I want the Chinese to exercise maximum discrimination. Please do not let any Pakistanis in who are even mildly infected with religious extremism.

(2) I would prefer the Chinese to actively make allowance for Pakistani secularists and place the religious radical at bottom of the pile or just refuse them entry. Period.

This is not being rude. This is being pragmatic. This is being prudent. China is a athiest society and possibly one of the few places left in the world where Pakistan might make a success. I would not want some mutts with beards going to Bejing, Shanghai or Kashgar and blowing themselves up on behalf of the ummah. To put it bluntly I don't want Pakistani's doing what they have done in the West. A few prime examples -

New York, USA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faisal_Shahzad
San Bardinino, USA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rizwan_Farook_and_Tashfeen_Malik

Even one such incident by Pakistani deluded in the ummah dream would be catastrophic for Chinese perception of Pakistanis. In addition by China actively showing preferance for secular Pakistanis would be helping China in the long run by building up the secular forces inside Pakistan.

China has to ask itself a simple question. In the long run what would tango with China better? A religious hellhole or a progressive secular forward looking country open and comfortable with diversity. Surely a secular Pakistan would dance better with a socialist athiest China. I think it's a no brainer. So I ask Cjhinese brothers don't let any body in who resembles these guys or holds views in sync with them.


Rise-of-the-religious-right-A9.jpg




Lol.......:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:....POTM.....Mutts with beards.....:lol:........screwing things up for Pakistan since 1979...........guaranteed to never fail in this regard...........:lol:



PS Only Pakistanis blow themselves up for the Ummah even though the Ummah sees them being as more worthless than dogs and are more racist towards Pakistanis than even White people are.
 
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Caution......bajrangi gang is full flow to sow hate between pakistan and china by any means
....Chanakya neeti evils being applied.
 
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