Pakistanis must learn the limits of military led counter-terrorism

[Verve]

These things take time to resolve. Corruption is as dangerous as radicalism and corruption breeds radicalism (through unemployment). There are no magic fixes.

Nationalist and honest government is the requirement of the day.

 

[VCheng]

The chances of a nationalist and honest government coming into power in Pakistan are just about ZERO, in the next few decades, at least.

 

[Verve]

Another doom!

Oh well ... whenever that happens according to your prophecies, it will happen and change will come.

 

[NakedLunch]

Someone should have given this advice to Americans after 9-11, they would have saved (according to Trump) $6 trillion.

 

[Verve]

Someone should have given this advice to Americans after 9-11, they would have saved (according to Trump) $6 trillion.

hahhaa .. yes! 'Hey Americans, you should not invade Afghanistan as the natives are so messed up that installing a forced democracy would be stupid', replies american 'no, we will enforce our ways upon them for their betterment, little do they know'.

SOme bigots here love America for that, but are criticising Pakistan for the military action.

 

[VCheng]

Nobody has criticized the much-needed military action.

But it cannot be the solution all by itself. That is the whole point!

 

[Verve]

Nobody has criticized the much-needed military action.

But it cannot be the solution all by itself. That is the whole point!

What Americans achieved in Afghanistan (by military action and forced democracy) is a success according to you?

 

[VCheng]

AAAAAAnd now we are going off topic, just to obfuscate.

The military can conduct operations, but it cannot provide a total and enduring solution to Pakistan's radicalism problem.

 

[Verve]

The military can conduct operations, but it cannot provide a total and enduring solution to Pakistan's radicalism problem.

And this is where civilian government needs to pull up it's socks and work!

Afghanistan op was a failure due to failure of the so called democracy there. The system had failed.

When Pakistan's civilian government gets her act together, then we will see change and according to you that will happen a few decades later, if that.

What's left to discuss? You seem to want to beat the dead horse in your mind continuously.

 

[VCheng]

There are forces within Pakistan whose interest remains never to let a civilian government succeed. Change? Sure.

 

[Solomon2]

The military can conduct operations, but it cannot provide a total and enduring solution to Pakistan's radicalism problem.

The core contradiction is the very fact that the military reigns supreme in Pakistan over all other institutions is itself an endorsement and motivator for using violence to get one's way in all conflicts, whether ideological, personal, political, or economic - including conflicts against the State.

 

[VCheng]

The core contradiction is the very fact that the military reigns supreme in Pakistan over all other institutions is itself an endorsement and motivator for using violence to get one's way in all conflicts, whether ideological, personal, political, or economic - including conflicts against the State.

Pakistan is a land of contradictions like no other.

 

[Verve]

Land of contradictions is fine. No country of 70yrs history only has survived 3 wars and proxy wars and become a nuclear state despite all odds. We can manage the internal issues as well.

 

[VCheng]

As if wars and weapons are a good way to judge the success of a nation for its people.

 

[Verve]

As if wars and weapons are a good way to judge the success of a nation for its people.

Defence is!