Pakistani man jailed for chanting 'Allahu Akbar'on Emirates flight

[MarkusS]

In that case try not to go near a mosque or a Muslim or you might $hit your pants.

No mosques and muslims where i live. Italy has almost no muslims and i avoid muslim countries.

Beside that whats the matter? I said what those words represent for most people in the west.

You don´t like it? Then change your radicals.

Relax man. No need to get paranoid. We the majority of muslims mean you no harm. It is only a tiny minority which is scaring you. I humbly suggest that you read the translation of Koran. It will remove the "absolute evil" and fill you with absolute peace and wisdom. You should be able to find it in any public library in Italy or search the web. I am trying to point in the right direction. I wish the best for you.

Sorry but no.

I respect your opinion but my opinion is formed. I never had any positive situation connected with this believe sstem in my entire life. All media show it as pure evil. All events i see connected with it show pure evil.

 

[Aali Shafi]

See, the powerful weapon we have that can scare anyone in no-time by just shouting it loud!

 

[Clutch]

No mosques and muslims where i live. Italy has almost no muslims and i avoid muslim countries.

Beside that whats the matter? I said what those words represent for most people in the west.

You don´t like it? Then change your radicals.




Sorry but no.

I respect your opinion but my opinion is formed. I never had any positive situation connected with this believe sstem in my entire life. All media show it as pure evil. All events i see connected with it show pure evil.

Avoid muslims much?... Kind of ironic you spend a lot of time on a Pakistani forum... although not an Muslim forum... but with a lot of cultural leanings towards islamic values.

 

[prashantazazel]

actually Hindus do believe in one supreme being.
HE is called PooranBrahma. But he is without shape, without energy, the energy is called Maa Durga, Maa Mahamaya.
They complete each other. They both are same.
With the will of PooranBrahma, Ma Durga the energy created whole multiverses.

In each Mutiliverse, there are Tridevas <Brahma, Vishnu, Mahesh> under these three rest of all Devas comes but all derive energy from Maa Durga, even Asuras and Humans.

The concept of Moksha is to get absorbed in ParamAtma that is pooran brahma, our souls should get back to the supreme soul, we all have to make this journey. Good or bad doesnt matter ultimately all paths lead to The One, The supreme being, The Pooran Brahma.

Heaven and hell are just cycles from where soul climbs and drops as per the karmas perform by the beings in Human life, which is very hard to come by, so we all have to work towards this goal millions of human births, we might land up in heaven or hell periodically, when our good Karmas are spent in Heaven we get back to Human life, a soul will take form of all 8.4 million species as described in vedas, until it get back to Human form.

So better use this birth to get to that goal as much as possible .

False. Only some do.

Relax man. No need to get paranoid. We the majority of muslims mean you no harm. It is only a tiny minority which is scaring you. I humbly suggest that you read the translation of Koran. It will remove the "absolute evil" and fill you with absolute peace and wisdom. You should be able to find it in any public library in Italy or search the web. I am trying to point in the right direction. I wish the best for you.

How to differentiate between a moderate and an extremist?

 

[Dr Gupta]

I think it was more of the 'boom' when the plane landed that made people jump lol well there is one born every minute

 

[Imtiaz_Sarwar]

but reality is lots of muslims do drink alcohol . no saying abt this fella

The muslims who drink alcohol will have to answer for it to Allah on the day of judgement. That is all I can say.

Sorry but no.

I respect your opinion but my opinion is formed. I never had any positive situation connected with this believe sstem in my entire life. All media show it as pure evil. All events i see connected with it show pure evil.

Thank you for your polite reply. I hope you find peace.
Off topic.
Your country Italy is helping Pakistan in planting Olive trees and I respect your country for that.

False. Only some do.


How to differentiate between a moderate and an extremist?

There are no hard and fast rules on this issue. Use your own judgement. That is all I can say.

 

[Imtiaz_Sarwar]

That is up to Allah to decide and not us. The day you take that responsibility of decision you are challenging him.

Off course it is up to Allah to decide who goes to heaven and who goes to hell. I am not challenging Allah. The path to heaven and hell is very clearly explained in Quran and Hadith. It is quite clear that drinking alcohol is one act which can lead to hell. The only act which is guaranteed to lead to hell is "Shirk" (for non muslim members on PDF it is not believing in One-ness of God). It is clearly stated in Quran that Allah will never forgive "Shirk". For all other sins Allah may forgive them or may not forgive them. I hope this makes things clears for you.

 

[MarkusS]

The muslims who drink alcohol will have to answer for it to Allah on the day of judgement. That is all I can say.


Thank you for your polite reply. I hope you find peace.
Off topic.
Your country Italy is helping Pakistan in planting Olive trees and I respect your country for that.


There are no hard and fast rules on this issue. Use your own judgement. That is all I can say.

Thanks.

We currently have a problem with ours trees. Some get ill and harvest is very small then. :/

 

[SQ8]

Off course it is up to Allah to decide who goes to heaven and who goes to hell. I am not challenging Allah. The path to heaven and hell is very clearly explained in Quran and Hadith. It is quite clear that drinking alcohol is one act which can lead to hell. The only act which is guaranteed to lead to hell is "Shirk" (for non muslim members on PDF it is not believing in One-ness of God). It is clearly stated in Quran that Allah will never forgive "Shirk". For all other sins Allah may forgive them or may not forgive them. I hope this makes things clears for you.

The path to heaven is explained and it is understood as per the person. That is your personal judgement and not Allah's judgement. Any attempt to say "this is final decision" is challenging Allah's authority, you do that at your own peril; I hope you understand this.

 

[war&peace]

The only act which is guaranteed to lead to hell is "Shirk" (for non muslim members on PDF it is not believing in One-ness of God). It is clearly stated in Quran that Allah will never forgive "Shirk". For all other sins Allah may forgive them or may not forgive them. I hope this makes things clears for you.

That’s true and I agree with you but we need to avoid on deciding who is Mushrik and who is not since the intolerant scum bags of ISIS and others label everyone except them as Mushrikeen. According to them, anyone who visits a shrine is Mushrik, anyone who bows down to an elder in respect is a Mushrik and even all Barelvis and Shias are Mushrikeen without exception and justify their killing despite the fact that in a Muslim country you cannot kill even a non-Muslim / Mushrik without a valid reason even with a valid reason it has to be a judgement call by a competent authority after sufficient evidence has been provided.

 

[Imtiaz_Sarwar]

That’s true and I agree with you but we need to avoid on deciding who is Mushrik and who is not since the intolerant scum bags of ISIS and others label everyone except them as Mushrikeen. According to them, anyone who visits a shrine is Mushrik, anyone who bows down to an elder in respect is a Mushrik and even all Barelvis and Shias are Mushrikeen without exception and justify their killing despite the fact that in a Muslim country you cannot kill even a non-Muslim / Mushrik without a valid reason even with a valid reason it has to be a judgement call by a competent authority after sufficient evidence has been provided.

Agreed.

 

[nvKyleBrown]

It is a sad commentary of the times to be sure. But also the reality of the times we live in.

If I were on the same flight, I would probably have freaked out.

As an aside, on an eight hour flight from Dubai to the UK, there were these two gentlemen with prayer caps who very politely and silently got up from their seats and went to the back of the plane, I'm assuming to pray. Twice. No one batted an eyelid. And this was a flight with a lot of white skinned folk. So I think we are all learning how to live together and get along.

But if a guy starts chucking scones at me, I'd probably draw the line there .....

I'd actually be comforted by a crazy guy chucking scones. If he had anything worse, he'd probably already have thrown that, so you gotta assume that when you get hit by a scone, that's all he has left.

 

[ranjeet]

Not sure if this is true but a similar incident from Iraq.

https://twitter.com/x/status/750781457283616769