Pakistan will launch a two-seater version of JF-17 - Induction of JF-17B in 2017

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

There is little point in acquiring the SOM. Pakistan can re-utilize the material resources and expertise developed for the Ra'ad to make a "Ra'ad Lite" - a smaller and shorter-legged ALCM shouldn't be a big deal. It really depends on whether such a weapon provides the value of its cost.

If a hypothetical "Ra'ad Lite" is to mirror the SOM, then the SOM has to make due with a 230 kg warhead. You're really just asking for range with a Ra'ad Lite, not much else. It would be better to figure out integrating the Ra'ad and Ra'ad II onto the JF-17 so that the JF-17 can get that long-range and hard-hitting capability.

That said, a "Ra'ad Lite" with a 200 kg warhead and 280 km range with an optional imaging infrared (IIR) seeker (for moving targets such as ships) would be a nifty thing to offer for export.

 

[Clutch]

The ghetto door hinges on the canopy make the plane look like it's poorly engineered. I am sure at the drag profile is compromised by those hideous afterthought hinges!

Fix it!

 

[CriticalThought]

There is little point in acquiring the SOM. Pakistan can re-utilize the material resources and expertise developed for the Ra'ad to make a "Ra'ad Lite" - a smaller and shorter-legged ALCM shouldn't be a big deal. It really depends on whether such a weapon provides the value of its cost.

If a hypothetical "Ra'ad Lite" is to mirror the SOM, then the SOM has to make due with a 230 kg warhead. You're really just asking for range with a Ra'ad Lite, not much else. It would be better to figure out integrating the Ra'ad and Ra'ad II onto the JF-17 so that the JF-17 can get that long-range and hard-hitting capability.

That said, a "Ra'ad Lite" with a 200 kg warhead and 280 km range with an optional imaging infrared (IIR) seeker (for moving targets such as ships) would be a nifty thing to offer for export.

Part humorous part serious: the thunder could take off from a raised grill thus providing the necessary clearance underneath for Raad. Or, they could dig up the runway

 

[krash]

Part humorous part serious: the thunder could take off from a raised grill thus providing the necessary clearance underneath for Raad. Or, they could dig up the runway

Which part of this are you serious about?

 

[CriticalThought]

Which part of this are you serious about?

If, Allah Forbid, it comes down to last aircraft remaining and national existence is on the line, many laughable things all of a sudden become very, very serious.

 

[krash]

If, Allah Forbid, it comes down to last aircraft remaining and national existence is on the line, many laughable things all of a sudden become very, very serious.

However true that maybe, neither of the two ideas you presented are even remotely possible.

 

[CriticalThought]

However true that maybe, neither of the two ideas you presented are even remotely possible.

My reading of war stories leads me to believe much more is possible during war. Here is a summarization of Taliban bombing missions against the Northern Alliance. I forgot the exact place where these sorties were flown.

In the dark of night, we did not dare light up a bulb even for fear of attracting fire from NA forces. The pilots had to rendezvous at a set time when we would show lights for a very short time to indicate the runway. The runway itself came under constant mortar fire, so teams of people were always ready to quickly fill up the holes with earth, water the runway, then flatten it. On this runway, the pilots landed in complete darkness.

War is messy and nothing is laughable when it comes to getting the job done.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Did you bother to read the red banner behind your 1st drawn circle, it reads, "FINAL assembly roll out"

i seriously have a feeling that this was just a "lets see" model the one we are seeing nowadays....2nd unit is being built too there...the problems encountered in flight of 1st will be solved on 2nd one ...dont forget the jet is in prototype stage as of now...1st prototype of thunder single seater and the induction one were very different....View attachment 393532View attachment 393533
Check the encircled part in these pics , @Deino @wanglaokan @grey boy2 . 1 thing is for sure , that this is a prototype stage and many modifications will be coming soon...write this

It's not a proto type, its the "Final" model.

But how can the JF-17B-prototype being rolled out yesterday in yellow primer, have made several taxi tests from 21. April on and already has made its maiden flight also yesterday !??



Both images are not to same scale !

Apparently one doesn't need brains or logic to be able to post.

Which part of this are you serious about?

 

[MastanKhan]

What is this story of the Engine / Afterburner talk I stumbled upon for the Thunder engines , as the new engines capable of Afterburning

What impact that has on general day to day operations

Afterburn eat up fuel tremendously so was wondering what will be happening with the new Block 3 planes

Hi,

Afterburner on an aircraft is like a massive turbo charger on a race car to speed up faster on a full load take off and in combat---.

It is a full combat aircraft---with the same RD93 engine as the single seater---. So there should be no issues.

 

[Deino]

...
Apparently one doesn't need brains or logic to be able to post.

Care to explain ... IMO it is a contradiction but given Your brain and logic not !? So care to help ?

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

JF 17 Pakistan is using is far more advanced than what people are expecting and what china have provided. our plane, our ideas, our improvements.

 

[WarFariX]

Did you bother to read the red banner behind your 1st drawn circle, it reads, "FINAL assembly roll out"



It's not a proto type, its the "Final" model.




Apparently one doesn't need brains or logic to be able to post.

Some modifications are underway and dear if you think that i am bluffing , then time will definitely answer it [emoji4] [emoji4] [emoji4]

 

[Deino]

Do we really need yet another - now the third already - thread for the JF-17B !???

 

[MastanKhan]

Do we really need yet another - now the third already - thread for the JF-17B !???

you can merge them

 

[Deino]

you can merge them

Regrettably not, I'm "restricted" to the China-section only.