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Pakistan will Join BRICS: China, Russia , South africa and Brazil are agree

Even if that is the case, Pakistan still would not play imminent part in it, It is only of use to Chine as of now and rest have better bilateral ties with India rather then our neighbours... if that happens, India will persuade Indonesia and others to Join BRICS or PBRICS as per you, which will further isolate Pakistan in the grouping... It was an explanation to your assumption... Precisely aim of the group is to strengthens relationship, development etc in the region, which I think a terra incognita for you...
indonesia may become part of the group regardless. But this thing shows the real strategy ie the regional trade and do (s) dont (s) will only be dominated by pakistan in regards to yr country. BTW we also have great relations with indonesia etc....Even relations with Russia are very good now.
 
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indonesia may become part of the group regardless. But this thing shows the real strategy ie the regional trade and do (s) dont (s) will only be dominated by pakistan in regards to yr country. BTW we also have great relations with indonesia etc....Even relations with Russia are very good now.
Do's and Don'ts will be dominated by Pakistan, it's like you started monitoring class after successfully taking admission, I am sure you would not have got chance to do that... I am sure you must have heard of India turning down Pakistan request to collaborate in developing GPS which will be beneficial for Traffic, Railways etc..
 
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Do's and Don'ts will be dominated by Pakistan, it's like you started monitoring class after successfully taking admission, I am sure you would not have got chance to do that... I am sure you must have heard of India turning down Pakistan request to collaborate in developing GPS which will be beneficial for Traffic, Railways etc..
And do u think will we be participating on that GPS thing?

Without our transit routes/trade routes u will remain nothing. And even if we do join BRICS and make it PRICS that will remain unchanged......U it seems havnt really analysed the changing regional situation deeply enough. We have found a few like minded partners in the shape of China, Russia and Iran, thats why we are getting in SCO and trying for BRICS. We have even tried our best with u and at one time in the past decade we were literally begging u for that. But u chose to play in yr way. Now its our turn........

Now if we do join these ranks let me assure u we will surprise u even greatly then we ever did before.

For more on this read post#9 and #33. I have explained it in detail.
 
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And do u think will we be participating on that GPS thing?

Without our transit routes/trade routes u will remain nothing. And even if we do join BRICS and make it PRICS that will remain unchanged......U it seems havnt really analysed the changing regional situation deeply enough. We have found a few like minded partners in the shape of China, Russia and Iran, thats why we are getting in SCO and trying for BRICS. We have even tried our best with u and at one time in the past decade we were literally begging u for that. But u chose to play in yr way. Now its our turn........

Now if we do join these ranks let me assure u we will surprise u even greatly then we ever did before.

For more on this read post#9 and #33. I have explained it in detail.
I would not decline that you are becoming imminent in the region and the deal you bagged is eye raising for India, but if you think Russia is like Minded and to some reason Iran then it is due to shift of focus of India to US, you forgot in the time of Crisis India built road through IRAN to provide humanitarian aid to Afghanistan, when Pakistan declined.

And do u think will we be participating on that GPS thing?

Without our transit routes/trade routes u will remain nothing. And even if we do join BRICS and make it PRICS that will remain unchanged......U it seems havnt really analysed the changing regional situation deeply enough. We have found a few like minded partners in the shape of China, Russia and Iran, thats why we are getting in SCO and trying for BRICS. We have even tried our best with u and at one time in the past decade we were literally begging u for that. But u chose to play in yr way. Now its our turn........

Now if we do join these ranks let me assure u we will surprise u even greatly then we ever did before.

For more on this read post#9 and #33. I have explained it in detail.
Please read about that too, Pakistan initially declined but later asked to participate and offered assistance which India declined...
 
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I would not decline that you are becoming imminent in the region and the deal you bagged is eye raising for India, but if you think Russia is like Minded and to some reason Iran then it is due to shift of focus of India to US, you forgot in the time of Crisis India built road through IRAN to provide humanitarian aid to Afghanistan, when Pakistan declined.


Please read about that too, Pakistan initially declined but later asked to participate and offered assistance which India declined...
Pakistan did not decline that. Have u seen any official of ours commenting on that? Yr media isnt credible. Yr own ISRO official rubbished that assumption. And we did participated in meeting on 22 june on that. We offered assistance as we want things which can benefit us as well and help grow our own knowledge base. Thats why we want stake in the project or else i dont think acquiring gifts is our priority. If there is nothing in it then there is no reason for wasting time.

Regarding yr first paragraph, read post#33. I have explained it in detail. Remember that what u offer to the world is just temporary economic benefits by first guarding yr own domestic industry and market. But what we offer to these countries will last forever ie security, routes for trade, natural resources etc etc

Hence our importance in their eyes was always very high. Do u know in times of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto Russia even build lots of infrastructure to have a better influence in our country. since Mr Bhutto was communist himself. In his tenure the relations with China also reached new high at the time. The reason for Russia was at that time were that it knew abt what Superpowers want from Pakistan and if there is only country which can neutralize USSR is us. Because of our influence within the Muslim World in Central Asia which was and still is Muslim area. Back then even Tajikistan was part of USSR, they were almost our neighbor. Hence they grabbed the opportunity with both hands.

India was never their priority from beginning it was because of our own attitude in the beginning that they had to improve their relations militarily with u in order to scare us or force us to proceed with them. And also the fact that at the time u had great statesmen in the shape of Abdul Kalam Azad, Nehru, Patel etc who could see b/w back and white and u grabbed the opportunity and respond to them.

Now fast forward things have changed again, And we have also learnt a few lessons as well from our history. BTW we Pakistanis r fast learners and we adapt quickly u might have observed that yrself in some point in yr life as well.

Hence now if i take things in prospective of what i wrote in post#33 and post#9......We had been building our relations within Asiatic and regional countries since past decade and while we were building we have found a few like minded countries within the domain of Asia which also share our vision of regional and Asia to Asia co-operation ie Russia-China and Iran. Hence why we had applied for SCO years ago. And if we do get into BRICS etc that vision of ours along with these few counties will just find more practical form then only being a vision as of now.

Contrary to yr indian propagandas and believes we do care abt our own country the most and we are no American stooge or any jelly state. We know how to play in IR.
 
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Pakistan did not decline that. Have u seen any official of ours commenting on that? Yr media isnt credible. Yr own ISRO official rubbished that assumption. And we did participated in meeting on 22 june on that. We offered assistance as we want things which can benefit us as well and help grow our own knowledge base. Thats why we want stake in the project or else i dont think acquiring gifts is our priority. If there is nothing in it then there is no reason for wasting time.

Regarding yr first paragraph, read post#33. I have explained it in detail. Remember that what u offer to the world is just temporary economic benefits by first guarding yr own domestic industry and market. But what we offer to these countries will last forever ie security, routes for trade, natural resources etc etc

Hence our importance in their eyes was always very high. Do u know in times of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto Russia even build lots of infrastructure to have a better influence in our country. since Mr Bhutto was communist himself. In his tenure the relations with China also reached new high at the time. The reason for Russia was at that time were that it knew abt what Superpowers want from Pakistan and if there is only country which can neutralize USSR is us. Because of our influence within the Muslim World in Central Asia which was and still is Muslim area. Back then even Tajikistan was part of USSR, they were almost our neighbor. Hence they grabbed the opportunity with both hands.

India was never their priority from beginning it was because of our own attitude in the beginning that they had to improve their relations militarily with u in order to scare us or force us to proceed with them. And also the fact the time in the shape of Abdul Kalam Azad, Nehru, Patel etc who could see b/w back and white and u grabbed the opportunity and respond to them.

Now fast forward things have changed again, And we have also learnt a few lessons as well from our history. BTW we Pakistanis r fast learners and we adapt quickly u might have observed that yrself in some point in yr life as well.

Hence now if it take things in prospective of what i wrote in post#33 and post#9......We are had build our relations within Asiatic and regional countries and when we were building we have found a few like minded countries within the domain of Asia which also share our vision of regional and Asia to Asia co-operation ie Russia-China and Iran. Hence why we had applied for SCO years ago. And if we do get into BRICS etc that vision of ours along with these few counties will just find more practical form then only being a vision as of now.

Contrary to yr indian propagandas and believes we do care abt our own country the most and we are no American stooge or any jelly state. We know how to play in IR.

This wall of text ultimately conveys one point i.e. Pakistan is a master of international diplomacy to whose tunes everyone is dancing and India is just a fluke.

Brevity is a virtue Sir, exercise it.

I wish you the best of luck for Pakistan's development, in my heart I have nothing against Pakistanis but a word of advice - Pride comes before the fall. You have come a long way but the journey ahead is longer still.
 
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Can't happen with someone like Dar as a finance minister. Regardless, PML-N is still the most capable party in Pakistan when it comes to economic growth. Ahsan Iqbal would make a good finance minister. He's a man of integrity. I personally know him.
 
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This wall of text ultimately conveys one point i.e. Pakistan is a master of international diplomacy to whose tunes everyone is dancing and India is just a fluke.

Brevity is a virtue Sir, exercise it.

I wish you the best of luck for Pakistan's development, in my heart I have nothing against Pakistanis but a word of advice - Pride comes before the fall. You have come a long way but the journey ahead is longer still.
Not a master but fast learner and adaptive.

I didnt wrote anything abt india which proves its a fluke, i just said u had great statesmen in the beginning who could see b/w black n white while didnt had any visionary leader hence we committed few mistakes.

But we also have a strange habit of learning from experience and adapting with changing domain of IR......Hence why we are not just surviving but now gradually thriving.
 
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As long as Pakistan has no economy a la G-20, what can be expected of it?

With 30 billion of exports, you wanna become a BRICS member?

Watch out, a Brick is falling over your head.
Lol
 
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Not a master but fast learner and adaptive.

I didnt wrote anything abt india which proves its a fluke, i just said u had great statesmen in the beginning who could see b/w black n white while didnt had any visionary leader hence we committed few mistakes.

But we also have a strange habit of learning from experience and adapting with changing domain of IR......Hence why we are not just surviving but now gradually thriving.

I was referring to this point with reference to India

I have explained it in detail. Remember that what u offer to the world is just temporary economic benefits by first guarding yr own domestic industry and market

Thanks for clarification. As I said I wish the best for Pakistan. Pakistanis are hardy people and I am sure you can survive the worst this world has to offer and come out on top.

We have no quarrels with you if you none with us.
 
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First of all I think brics is not an organization but just a mere term given by an economist to highlight the economic growth of some countries at that time (totally irrelavent term today) and sco is a proper organization which is becoming more important in world arena. Please confirm if am wrong
 
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I was referring to this point with reference to India

I have explained it in detail. Remember that what u offer to the world is just temporary economic benefits by first guarding yr own domestic industry and market

Thanks for clarification. As I said I wish the best for Pakistan. Pakistanis are hardy people and I am sure you can survive the worst this world has to offer and come out on top.

We have no quarrels with you if you none with us.
read post #9 for that and importance of Pakistan within their vision for Asia.......In long term yes we can benefit them more then just economical benefits india has to offer. Even in order to maintain credible economic benefits for themselves and through india they will need our support so we not jeopardize them by either stopping trade routes or an other Mumbai scale attack(s) which will effectively nose dive yr growth.:azn:

Thriving how?
gradually.
 
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First of all I think brics is not an organization but just a mere term given by an economist to highlight the economic growth of some countries at that time (totally irrelavent term today) and sco is a proper organization which is becoming more important in world arena. Please confirm if am wrong

BRICS = 3 billion people, or 40% of the world population.
Combined GDP (Nominal = 16 trillion)
And you say its a "mere term" ?

read post #9 for that and importance of Pakistan within their vision for Asia.......In long term yes we can benefit them more then just economical benefits india has to offer. Even in order to maintain credible economic benefits for themselves and through india they will need our support so we not jeopardize them by either stopping trade routes or an other Mumbai scale attack(s) which will effectively nose dive yr growth.:azn:


gradually.

Even gradually, how is Pakistan thriving?
 
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