Pakistan third amongst countries with worst reputation

[Mukunda Murthi Rao]

You know India wasn't always ruled by the British, right? And that India existed before 1947, right? Throughout your history, you have lost almost 900,000 square miles of land. That's undisputable fact, where as we have only lost almost 60,000 square miles of land.

As far as our independence goes, our people fought and died to get it, no matter what nonsense you guys pull form your rear, nothing will change that. The most ironic thing is that you celebrate that day as your Independence Day, when you lost almost 360,000 square miles of land! And the coups we have had are to dispose of poor leaders, which I and any sane person would prefer to some idiot ruling the land.

I had initially asked about the land india lost post independence.

And i asked u for a specific instance where a muslim league guy went to prison.
I can present a lot of muslims though who fought for independence and went to jail but all of them wanted a united india. Be it maulana azad, khan abdul gafar khan, ashfaqullah khan or others.

 

[Hamza913]

I had initially asked about the land india lost post independence.

And i asked u for a specific instance where a muslim league guy went to prison.
I can present a lot of muslims though who fought for independence and went to jail but all of them wanted a united india. Be it maulana azad, khan abdul gafar khan, ashfaqullah khan or others.

Land India lost during post independence? Well, excluding Pakistan and Bangladesh, over 30,000 square miles of Kashmir.

As for a Muslim Legue guy going to prison, I am sure you can find examples. Even if you can't, that doesn't make our cause any less valid as people still fought and died for Pakistan to be made, which is a bigger sacrifice then going to prison.

 

[Mukunda Murthi Rao]

Land India lost during post independence? Well, excluding Pakistan and Bangladesh, over 30,000 square miles of Kashmir.

As for a Muslim Legue guy going to prison, I am sure you can find examples. Even if you can't, that doesn't make our cause any less valid as people still fought and died for Pakistan to be made, which is a bigger sacrifice then going to prison.

Again, not lost post independence.
And aksai chin is not an independent countty. U have lost track of the original conversation, have u?

Yes, fighting for independence and being an opportunist and stealing a share are two different things.

 

[livingdead]

all of them are number 1..

 

[Hamza913]

Again, not lost post independence.
And aksai chin is not an independent countty. U have lost track of the original conversation, have u?

Yes, fighting for independence and being an opportunist and stealing a share are two different things.

I wasn't talking about Aksai Chin, in fact I forgot about that. I was referring to Gilgit and Azad. Also, them not being independent countries doesn't mean they don't count to that 900,000 square miles.

And our men fought and died for independence, the fact that you call them opportunists and thieves shows how despicable you are and how you cannot let go of the fact that we won and got independence.

 

[The Diplomat]

I see these quit a bit but I always find it as Indian propaganda and fake, Why? Well because countries like Afghanistan, Somalia, Ethiopia, Rwanda and most of all India are never on the list. And I will tell you guys why I said India; well probably one of India's most famous city's Mumbai is full of slums which just shows that only the rich can live there, at lease in Pakistan the poor have a small house or rent one (there are not a lot of slums in Pakistan), India not pointed out for abuse of human rights in Kashmir and Khalistan?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Both Pakistan and India are British creations. Both will not break up largely because of the structures the British built up in South Asia. If a external people could come to Asia, integrate huge area by force, name it India and then ruled it for centuries what makes people think now that locals run them they will fall apart?

The structures that British built and built up a colony are still there but even more entrenched, the military, the police, the administrative machine, the courts etc

And before anybody even mentions the "B" word, when you build something contrary to gravity it will fall part without much stress. Having 100s of millions of people separated by 1,300 miles of hostile territoty is not promising future stability. If that was not the case USA would still have been partt of UK. After unlie Bangla/Pak the people on both sides were same - one side had English. The other side English migrants and look what happened. Hint: You need geographic contiguity unless the satellite is a tiny population.

And India was not divided. British India was. There is lot of differance there. One prefix can change meaning entirely. Indian > West Indian. That is why India has independance day in 1947.

 

[Farbeyonddriven]

Ummm,such lists nowadays are like paparazzi tabloid world,it seems the caste and the massive scale rapes that are HAPPENING NOW are less juicy for them to spin stories from,they'd rather still stick to the outdated rehash of "Human Rights Violations" only against the specific country forever

Fine,screw it,I've repented for our bad rep already now leave us alone and stop boring us

 

[CriticalThinker02]

Nobody gives a shit what the west thinks of the rest of the world, the feeling is mutual anyway how many years has the US spent waging wars ever since it's independence?, I'll tell you it's 222 of war years out of 239 years of it's existence.

After raping and wiping out half the worlds civilizations they think they somehow got the moral high ground to judge others pathetic.

 

[Mukunda Murthi Rao]

I wasn't talking about Aksai Chin, in fact I forgot about that. I was referring to Gilgit and Azad. Also, them not being independent countries doesn't mean they don't count to that 900,000 square miles.

And our men fought and died for independence, the fact that you call them opportunists and thieves shows how despicable you are and how you cannot let go of the fact that we won and got independence.

Like i said, GB and p0k were not part of independent india initially. Whatever j&k we have, it is only an addition.

And please enlighten me with some of your leaders who went to jail.

Ur leaders only fought and killed hindus or were killed fighting hindus. Had they fough the british with such enthusiasm, we would have been independent long back.

 

[Hamza913]

Like i said, GB and p0k were not part of independent india initially. Whatever j&k we have, it is only an addition.

And please enlighten me with some of your leaders who went to jail.

Ur leaders only fought and killed hindus or were killed fighting hindus. Had they fough the british with such enthusiasm, we would have been independent long back.

Didn't the leader of J and K sign the instrument of accession? Which means India owned all of Kashmir? Which effectively means any land Pakistan took was meant to go to India? Which would in turn mean India only lost land?

Okay, even if our leaders didn't go to jail, as I said, dying for our cause is just as noble, if not more so. And if killing Hindus was necessary to secure independence, so be it. They inflicted some nasty damage towards Muslims. Don't bite someone and expect them not to do the same. Also, I thought India was some secular utopia that did not care about religion?

 

[Shakuni & Ravan]

I see these quit a bit but I always find it as Indian propaganda and fake, Why? Well because countries like Afghanistan, Somalia, Ethiopia, Rwanda and most of all India are never on the list. And I will tell you guys why I said India; well probably one of India's most famous city's Mumbai is full of slums which just shows that only the rich can live there, at lease in Pakistan the poor have a small house or rent one (there are not a lot of slums in Pakistan), India not pointed out for abuse of human rights in Kashmir and Khalistan?

Buddy this is Mumbai.By the way do you know any thing about Mumbai.Yes Mumbai have slums, but it is the city of skyscrapers.It is the city having one of the most beautiful airport terminal in the world,it is the city of billionaires,It is the city of world's largest film industry,it is the city where the combined stock exchanges worth around 3.3 trillion dollar market cap.The city having both metro and monorail...

Do you know that Google,Microsoft and many multinational giants CEO are basically Indians ! Do you know that many IIT toppers are recruited with unimaginable salary in MNC's and lucky to work in india or abroad,Do you know that Indian IT industry is around 147 billion dollar and so many foreigner's consider Indians as software people.Do you know that indian actors/actress know many parts of the world including peoples in middle east.Do you know that Yoga is popular in US with almost 3 million people following the practise.Do you know that world's largest oil refinery is in India and not in Saudi,China or US with refined products export it to US.Do you know that ISRO is considered one of the pioneer in space and launched many satellites of western world and the only space organisation of putting Mars orbitor in first attempt.Do you know that since india is growing faster GDP growth rate than any major economy and so foreigners are investing heavily in Indian market with fdi 61.5 billion dollar/year.Do you know that 'Made in India' metro trains are exported to Australia and the list goes on.....

The world have different point of view about india and indians ....You can like or hate india but will not change facts.

 

[Mukunda Murthi Rao]

Didn't the leader of J and K sign the instrument of accession? Which means India owned all of Kashmir? Which effectively means any land Pakistan took was meant to go to India? Which would in turn mean India only lost land?

Okay, even if our leaders didn't go to jail, as I said, dying for our cause is just as noble, if not more so. And if killing Hindus was necessary to secure independence, so be it. They inflicted some nasty damage towards Muslims. Don't bite someone and expect them not to do the same. Also, I thought India was some secular utopia that did not care about religion?

There was a net addition of land for india, wasnt it? And india gained that land because of the foolishness of pakistani leaders.

See the real contradiction in ur claim, they were opportunisitc. Instead of fighting the oppressors, u foght ur own brothers...

I hate to be rude, but pehle angrezo ki chati, fir jb azafi milne wali thi, apne hi bhaio se ladkr ghar ka batwara krdia.
And let me tell u, there was mostly harmony between hindus and muslims.
Jinnah invented the theory, and filled the society with hatred and mistrust.
And please quote instances of hindu muslim conflict before 1930.

 

[Muhammad Raza Mohaiuddin]

Like i said, GB and p0k were not part of independent india initially. Whatever j&k we have, it is only an addition.

And please enlighten me with some of your leaders who went to jail.

Ur leaders only fought and killed hindus or were killed fighting hindus. Had they fough the british with such enthusiasm, we would have been independent long back.

Same bla bla bla stories. No one is interested. so dont waste our time.

 

[illusion8]

Didn't the leader of J and K sign the instrument of accession? Which means India owned all of Kashmir? Which effectively means any land Pakistan took was meant to go to India? Which would in turn mean India only lost land?

There were 565 princely states apart from British, Portuguese, French controlled lands.

Out of the 565 princely states, 552 of them joined India while 13 joined Pakistan. These happened post 1947.

We added Goa after chasing out the Portuguese, Pondicherry after chasing out the french, Sikkim, Manipur etc were added much after 1947.

The two Muslim ruled princely states of Hyderabad and Junagad who wanted to join Pakistan were also eventually joined with India.

The ruler of J&K wanted it to be a free country, but post Pakistani attack...J&K was acceded to India.

Kargil region was acquired post 1947.

The latest acquisition was Siachen in 84. So I would think that India only gained land..not lost.

Letting go of Muslim majority regions isn't really a loss...kashmir valley is the only Muslim dominated region in India..and see how much trouble they cause. Aksai chin was definitely a loss.


Poor @haviZsultan Lucknow joined India as well..The nawab of Lucknow's family is probably running a hotel somewhere.