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How much perfection you have got to achieve that Islam is a lifetime "code of conduct"? So far no one has been able to implement this so called perfect "code on conduct" but ended up going back to stone age in persuit of doing so. It always starts at a young and ripe age. Infact the TTP, AQ, Lal Masjid etc menace is nothing but striving to enforce perfect "code of conduct" on the en-masses. The fact that through out history, illegitimate force has been required to impose this perfect "code of conduct" disapproves its acceptance to enmasse and when friction turns into resistance there will be violence.

No they are not. The religion which even forbade destroying/damaging crops and animal when the forces are moving for a WAR cannot and do not allow Suicide Bombings killing innocent, no way!!

If one thing what he is doing is the ACTUAL "Perfect code of conduct" that Islam gives, and he is doing bad, this means he is THINKING incorrectly. This is a mistake at the one doing wrong, not a flau in system! You get a ticket for overspeeding then its your fault, not a mistake of Gov or authorities that have set the speed limit!!
What he is doing is not what Islam asks us or teaches us to do. This is same what is happening in TTP!!

The fact is simple, the so called "code of conduct" lives in the heart of individual as his commitment to Allah. The code of conduct TTP/AQ/Lal Masjid/ Jamat is trying to enforce was drawn up my medieval mindset humans to serve their own greed of power and feel like an emperor - not God himself.

Remember the first fraction in Islam the so called Shia-Sunni divide occurred not over religious difference but as a political power struggle of accession. The three caliphs earlier died on job due the very same nature of power struggle. Today a few fasadis try to find excuses in 14 centuries old conflict to settle scores on the streets of Iraq and Pakistan.
Again, if followers of a any religion are doing wrong, this is fault of followers not of religion.

ANYWAYS. I AM SORRY, THIS WAS NEVER THE RIGHT THREAD TO SAY ALL THIS. PLEASE IF ANYONE FEEL TO DISCUSS THIS WE CAN DO IN PM.

It all started that this is right that Pakistan is getting out of Islam Shell and developing relation with Non0Muslim states! China is a non-Muslim country. Neither Islam asks us not to trade with them!

The development in Pakistan Serbia relations is indeed a welcoming move! All these states have good inputs from there USSR era and although most of things might be obsolete, many are still of our interest. Wee might also get an export market in Serbia for future and current projects!

regards!
 
IIRC XYON thread about new SMG for Pak Army, Serbia was one of the contenders. Does it mean serbia got the deal of supplying new SMG?
 
On the contrary we can learn alot from their T-84 MBT modernization. Also study APC BOV-M86/83 like you said other than that They have russian aging equipment.

I'm not sure how many mig-21s are operational or in operational condition but if they are PAF could help in upgrades similar to israelis have done to mig 21-2000 standards.

buying old Mi-21 is not a good Idea, Pakistan could also devolpe a upgrade programm with China, to bring its aging J-7 to mig 21-2000 standards
 
I think first and foremost we need some Infantry Fighting Vehicles, Assault Rifles, and Machine Guns.

These are key components we need to prosecute this war against the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

Sending heavy armor like Tanks and transporting troops on pickup trucks always cause heavy casualties to the Pakistani Army.

BVP M-80
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Zastava M84
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Zastava M21
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