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Pakistan says it is open to joint Afghan border patrols

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Seems that reality is finally sinking in on the leadership in Pakistan. Noises of defiances were mostly for public consumption with trips to China, Iran and Turkey only yielding moral support?
This was to expected as Trump means business this time.

Anyways in my opinion joint patrols mean little when the Tali command structure is in Pindi.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...dc_story.html?utm_term=.2a1118bd364d#comments
 
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Someone have free time to look at the hundreds of times Pakistan offered this prior?
That is my point, no use offering joint patrols, when the invasion of next afghan district would be in the same location as well. Change of Policy is the only solution here!!
 
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Seal the fucking border ! these people are very irritating

There is even realisation in the US circles of power also that closure and recognition of the Durand line is the key
 
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@A-Team dude I see u here actively trying to pursue some sort of solution for Afghanistan by having a change in Pakistan's policy. Why don't u practice what u preach and start this change at home?

Do u know who the Afghan Taliban are? Hint: it's in the name...yes they are Afghan. If u and other Afghans are having problems with ur countrymen(Afghan Taliban) then that's an internal matter. U guys r having a civil war. So get ur house in order.

- Preach to ur farmers how it is haram to grow opium for drug trade(from which Afghan Taliban get financed)
- Bring the Taliban to the table and talk/negotiate with them
- Or conversely have ur armed forces get their sh*t together. US and the west has spent more than a decade training them and arming them but they remain corrupt and incompetent. If negotiating with the Taliban is not an option then together with the western forces fight them and defeat them.

Pointing fingers is getting annoying fast. The window of opportunity is closing. The US has been there for more than a decade, how much longer do u think they will keep spending their money to solve ur problems? Another decade perhaps? If this last decade is any indication then the chances don't look so bright. If u want change then u and ur ppl have to collectively look inwards.

In the meantime u guys can take advantage of Pakistan's fencing of the border...fence it from ur side as well and take up this offer(which has been made a few times before) of joint patrolling. Do this and simultaneously launch a joint effort with the western forces in Afghanistan. Otherwise u can keep pointing fingers and ur problems will persist as they have for decades.
 
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That is my point, no use offering joint patrols, when the invasion of next afghan district would be in the same location as well. Change of Policy is the only solution here!!

Don't you think it'll be hard to have joint patrols when one country doesn't even have a border?
 
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That is my point, no use offering joint patrols, when the invasion of next afghan district would be in the same location as well. Change of Policy is the only solution here!!

Pakistani offer has been rejected for all those years, was that not enough change to deliver results?
 
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Seems that reality is finally sinking in on the leadership in Pakistan

We have made similair offers for the last decade, if this makes you happy then it seems Afghans are finally waking up to the reality that they need Pakistan.

BTW by agreeing to patrol the border your leadership would also finally be accepting that the defacto permanent boundary between Afghanistan and Pakistan is the Durand line. Good job checkmating yourselves.

Noises of defiances were mostly for public consumption with trips to China, Iran and Turkey only yielding moral support?

This is with regards to deteriorating US relations, it has nothing to do with Afghanistan other than being the subject of one policy.
 
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Pakistan is willing to cooperate for the betterment of the entire region. A shame that our "partners" don't feel the same way and reciprocate.
 
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Afghanistan need to fence their border from their side period. No but no if.
 
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Seems that reality is finally sinking in on the leadership in Pakistan. Noises of defiances were mostly for public consumption with trips to China, Iran and Turkey only yielding moral support?
This was to expected as Trump means business this time.

Anyways in my opinion joint patrols mean little when the Tali command structure is in Pindi.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...dc_story.html?utm_term=.2a1118bd364d#comments

Aren't the wanted people purportedly sitting in Peshawar and Quetta?

You must remembered that after 9/11 Pakistan ascended to all 7 demands (or was it 9) the US made of it. Well at least till 2006, I think the rest is history.

What saner US experts are predicting (on the left and the right, see Max Boot, Vanda Felbab, Camron Munter, Grossman, Wienbaum, et. al.) that Pakistan will comply temporarily -- what remains to be figured out is how that compliance can be made permanent. Further leaks from the US administration also concur on this point.

Then there is the bigger question if Pakistani change in behavior is able to forestall an Afghan state collapse.

The problems between Pakistan and Afghanistan are structural -- bandaids will may buy some time but in themselves are no solution.

The fundamental question is how is it that a 300,000 strong army cannot defeat an adversary that supposedly has no local support and is 1/10 it's size or less and has 1/10 its funding -- Answer that question and you can win the war. Absent that it's just verbal grand standing, and a poor one at that.
 
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