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'Pakistan provided US info about Osama whereabouts

Unfortunate it is that nobody was held accountable, infact it was the 2nd slap on us in our history after 71 n as it went always v lived in Oblivion.
May I ask? Had the American's rang you up [you were PAF chief]and told you USAF is about to cross into Pak airspace -

  • what exactly would you have done given US overwheling numerical and technological advantage?
  • and if you could so something why did Pakistan cave in to US pressure in 2001 by handing over everything to them?
 
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Clearly, Zadari mafia in MoFA is back in action.
 
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May I ask? Had the American's rang you up [you were PAF chief]and told you USAF is about to cross into Pak airspace -

  • what exactly would you have done given US overwheling numerical and technological advantage?
  • and if you could so something why did Pakistan cave in to US pressure in 2001 by handing over everything to them?
My friend please read the context in which i wrote these words first. I wasn't talking about paf failure but If u r so much desperate 2 make me acknowledge the faults in my argument then b 4 it n lets take it 2 ur way.

This OBL fiasco had brought failure to us in 3 perspectives:
Diplomatic
Intelligence
Defensive

V failed in diplomacy b4 n after this raid. B4 in sense that v could not pursue the outcome of our cooperation to the point which was favorable to us(as the our foreign office suggested that v provided initial cooperation).
After in sense that v couldn't make the world acknowledge what v did in capturing OBL.

In intelligence, it was our great failure. If v say that v didn't know about the OBL's hideout then y could not v trace him out in so many years. If accept this fact then world is right in saying that Terrorist have safe haven in Pakistan. And if v say that,as semoor harsh puts, pak knew the whole story but at the last moment US ditched us then it is still our failure to identify the clear intention of US.

In defense context u r already stating the same.
 
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I thought Barack Obama said Pakistan did not know where Osama Bin Laden was.

Something does not add up here.


Obama says Pakistan did not know whereabouts of Bin Laden
Dawn.comUpdated December 01, 2017
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Former US president Barack Obama on Friday said Washington does not distinguish between terrorist groups which target India and those that target the United States.

He was speaking at the Hindustan Times Leadership Summit — an annual meeting of business tycoons, world leaders and Nobel laureates.

This year's theme at the summit is “The Irreversible Rise of India”.

During the summit, while speaking to journalist Karan Thapar, Obama pointed out a "consistent problem" that Washington has faced in its relationship with Pakistan.

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"Pakistan has been in many ways a partner in fighting against certain terrorist outfits," Obama said. However, he added that, "there are some elements that sometimes have not been good partners with us."

The former president went on to say that it was a "source of frustration" that connections are made between "explicit terrorist organisations based in Pakistan and elements that are connected to various more official entities inside of Pakistan."

"But that's not just true for organisations directed at India, it is also true for organisations, like Haqqani, that [have] killed US soldiers."

Osama Bin Laden's whereabouts: Pakistan complicit or unaware?
Another question Thapar posed to the former US president concerned the 2011 capture of Osama Bin Laden from Abbottabad and Pakistan's role in the matter.

Thapar asked whether Pakistan had been hiding the Al Qaeda founder and was, therefore, complicit. "Or, unaware and incompetent?"

In response, Obama said that "we had no evidence that Pakistan was aware of his presence — that is something that we looked at."

Thapar also told Obama that "many Indians feel that when it comes to questions of terror, the terror we face is treated differently from the one you face."

"America makes a distinction between the terror groups in Pakistan, like the Haqqani Network, which target American interests in Afghanistan and terror groups such as Lashkar-e-Taiba [LeT], which primarily target this country," Thapar said.

"That's not how we viewed it," Obama responded.

India has alleged that the LeT was responsible for the 2008 attacks that rocked India's financial hub. The allegation has been supported by Washington.

Obama recalled that at the time of the 2008 Mumbai attacks, Washington was "just as obsessed with how to dismantle that network [LeT] as the Indians."

In 2012, Washington had announced a $10 million bounty for Hafiz Saeed, the chief of the proscribed group Jamaatud Dawa, which is known to be affiliated with the LeT.

"Our intelligence and military personnel were immediately deployed to work with the Indian government in any way," Obama added.

"There is a historic recognition that terrorism of any sort, directed at any country, metastasises," Obama added, elaborating on his view.



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Even if Osama Bin Laden was found in Pakistan, big deal?

Hideki Tojo was from Japan and Nazi war criminals were from Germany and were found hiding in South America.
 
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What if we know that they are in there what can we do against 5 F-15 strike eagke scrambled to counter our PAF
Even if they shot down our F-16s, it would be a message to the world that our sovereignty is not for sale, we will act if someone challenges it!
 
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Even if they shot down our F-16s, it would be a message to the world that our sovereignty is not for sale, we will act if someone challenges it!
Salute You Sir,
Thats what I am talking about
That spirit is necessary
Sir,
Lockheed martin planes has self rebooting system which stopa on lock on other similar company aircraft
Sir
F-15s are the most lethal aircraft in the world
Even F-15 strike eagle drieved from the original F-15 carries the lethality of the original F-15
 
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Forget China, if they will defeat the air defense system of IRAN, then this will be a big news @JohnWick
Iran,
Has powerful defence but
Mig-29 are nothing against Eagles
Now a days Their F-5s now used as target for USA TopGun when pilots are training
Their F-14 are tooooo old now and their tech also belong to them
None of their plane carries an Aesa Radar
 
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Iran,
Has powerful defence but
Mig-29 are nothing against Eagles
Now a days Their F-5s now used as target for USA TopGun when pilots are training
Their F-14 are tooooo old now and their tech also belong to them
None of their plane carries an Aesa Radar
yes, you're right, but i am talking IRAN's air defense/SAMs @JohnWick
 
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Surface to air missiles are mainly jamed by An AESA radar Easily
B-2 spirit of USAF CARRIES special pods to blk them
EA-18F GROWLER CAN ALSO EASILY Jame them
Their almost all SAMs have also AESA and Network centric capability, which is difficult to jam @JohnWick
 
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