Pakistan (non nuclear)plan to counter cold start

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Recently India planned to deploy 500 tanks near Pakistan border, Pakistan should counter it by getting more quality tanks under AL Haider Project around 300 tanks an deploy them against enemy.

personally i prefer anti tank capabilities more than tanks. We should learn from experience of other people fighting wars. Defensive offence.

 

[Morpheus]

We have won a equal number if gold medals.

How is it equal if we have won gold every year (except for one), and india won only 4 times, since 2006

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Also TTP is far more potent than all militant groups in India combined.

TTP never wanted independence from Pakistan Infact the only peace time in the recent past we had seen were when india planned a war after mumbai episode. TTP stopped fighting and declared full support for Pakistan army in case of war. Infact they announced doing suicide attacks in dehli in case of war. Even indian intelligence agencies warned their government about possible peace in Pakistan through war.
Also TTP is now weak and sitting in afghanstan.
It's not easy to count more stronger movements for independence in india so will suppose that you know about few of those many dozens.

 

[SHAH820]

It is you who is posting imAginary news & ISPR lies.

I have provided the news and prove in my first post like as usual you people dont have any prove to justify yourself

 

[Cool_Soldier]

personally i prefer anti tank capabilities more than tanks. We should learn from experience of other people fighting wars. Defensive offence.

We must have anti tank capabilities to stop offensive.But only defensive approach can be destructive, one must be offensive at the same time.
Trust me being defensive, one stop one, two three attacks but then fourth would be on face.
While being offensive means Tit for Tat.

 

[Vengeful One]

How is it equal if we have won gold every year (except for one), and india won only 4 times, since 2006

You guys won gold in only 3 years not every one.

I have provided the news and prove in my first post like as usual you people dont have any prove to justify yourself

Just read this:

• Devin T. Hagerty wrote in his book "South Asia in world politics"[119] –

The invading Indian forces outfought their Pakistani counterparts and halted their attack on the outskirts of Lahore, Pakistan's second-largest city. By the time United Nations intervened on September 22, Pakistan had suffered a clear defeat.
- Hagerty, Devin. South Asia in world politics. Rowman & Littlefield, 2005.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

A short two three week war will see no time for guerrilla warfare.

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It's not a t20 match but a war. You can't decide the time alone. The next war will be long as muslims fro all over the world will come to fight just like they fought in afghanistan. Just ike they are going to syria.
It is the holiest front for muslims. They would even leave all those war zones for this front.

 

[Vengeful One]

TTP never wanted independence from Pakistan Infact the only peace time in the recent past we had seen were when india planned a war after mumbai episode. TTP stopped fighting and declared full support for Pakistan army in case of war. Infact they announced doing suicide attacks in dehli in case of war. Even indian intelligence agencies warned their government about possible peace in Pakistan through war.
Also TTP is now weak and sitting in afghanstan.
It's not easy to count more stronger movements for independence in india so will suppose that you know about few of those many dozens.

TTP caused more casualties in Pakistan in almost every year since 2006 including this year than all militant groups in India combined.
Their ideology is of zero importance.
Naxals don't want any independence either.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

We must have anti tank capabilities to stop offensive.But only defensive approach can be destructive, one must be offensive at the same time.
Trust me being defensive, one stop one, two three attacks but then fourth would be on face.
While being offensive means Tit for Tat.

defensive offense is the term i used.
First allow enemy to come to you, as defense is easier. Enemy will suffer loses. Then launch offensive attacks.

 

[Vengeful One]

It's not a t20 match but a war. You can't decide the time alone. The next war will be long as muslims fro all over the world will come to fight just like they fought in afghanistan. Just ike they are going to syria.
It is the holiest front for muslims. They would even leave all those war zones for this front.

Muslims have no interest in defending Pakistan, they do not even give a carp about Kashmir.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

TTP caused more casualties in Pakistan in almost every year since 2006 including this year than all militant groups in India combined.
Their ideology is of zero importance.
Naxals don't want any independence either.

TTP is now nowhere in Pakistan. Their few left people are dying in US drone strikes in afghanistan.

Muslims have no interest in defending Pakistan, they do not even give a carp about Kashmir.

governments and people. Not same thing. Nobody sent their forces to afghanistan either. Nor bosnia.
But everybody went there.
If you see islamic radicals propaganda they are using ghazwa e hind predictions for war against india. Just like they used dabiq against syrians.

Muslims have no interest in defending Pakistan, they do not even give a carp about Kashmir.

you are not mentaly prepared to accept the ground realities. Ground realitis are always bitter and different than what you are told.

 

[Cool_Soldier]

That is

Muslims have no interest in defending Pakistan, they do not even give a carp about Kashmir.[/QUOTE

Too much miscalculated assumption dear.

 

[SHAH820]

You guys won gold in only 3 years not every one.


Just read this:

• Devin T. Hagerty wrote in his book "South Asia in world politics"[119] –

The invading Indian forces outfought their Pakistani counterparts and halted their attack on the outskirts of Lahore, Pakistan's second-largest city. By the time United Nations intervened on September 22, Pakistan had suffered a clear defeat.
- Hagerty, Devin. South Asia in world politics. Rowman & Littlefield, 2005.

also read this at that time

and also read this
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi5ltSYhfLSAhXHDRoKHa11AJgQFggbMAA&url=https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/fail-indians-put-wreckage-of-their-own-aircraft-stated-as-paf-f-6.448372/page-2&usg=AFQjCNFYIp81RbXy_e5mH9mne7u7gm3b-g&sig2=ZTknXkqzAhHd6fgRRuXd3g

now who is living in imaginary world

 

[Max]

bharati dont posess conventional means to overwhelm Pakistan..

What is their tank force? Half of their force is based on ancient tanks, PN have AIP subs which till now are best.. Scorpen subs are still in process.. As far air force goes Russian jet have worst availabilty compare to Pakistani jets.. So expect their fleet availablity at 60%..

Cold start is BS and discussing it is waste of time.

With Al Haider and Al Khalid 2 project.. And with possible 4++ fighter deal Pakistan army will be able to launch offence.

 

[Morpheus]

You guys won gold in only 3 years not every one.

You are right, we have been winning since 2015, i thought we have won all years. However we did win in 2010, 2012, 2015, 2016, giving us 4 medals. india won in 2011, 2014, 2016, giving it 3 medals. 4 is bigger then 3, not equal.