Pakistan Navy Keeps Silent On Mystery Submarine But New Details Emerge - Forbes Magazine

[SQ8]

So this thing first spotted in October 2016 (bulkheads kind of visible), structure completed in a couple of days, and then sometimes covered with a tent, lying in clear view of every satellite for 4 years, is a top-secret project? I somehow doubt that. I think its more likely a toy project that engineers are tinkering with. There are hundreds of buildings 10s of feet away that one could put this tiny thing in to at least protect it from imaging satellites.
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Could be a training rig for the cosmos craft and ssg. Hence just a tarp to keep it out of sun and additional corrosion from environment.

 

[JamD]

Could be a training rig for the cosmos craft and ssg. Hence just a tarp to keep it out of sun and additional corrosion from environment.

That would make most sense, especially since this is near/inside an SSGN facility.

 

[Pandora]

LoL so much fuss over a tiny sub. This sub is sitting at same place for years so i doubt it is an active project. Probably left it out in open to induce diarrhoea in the Indian war rooms.

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

Like i said, it's a fishing boat, nothing else. Here the great photo analysts look at boat cradles and call it bulkheads. Just amazing...i wouldn't speculate more.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Like i said, it's a fishing boat, nothing else. Here the great photo analysts look at boat cradles and call it bulkheads. Just amazing...i wouldn't speculate more.

Modp report 2016, mentioned the development of this fishing boat.

 

[Thorough Pro]

I second that. Pakistan can not build any subs inhouse and has not bought any from outside.
Tarpaulin is just to cover stupid trash for the parade purpose.

A fishing boat, with covers on it, at the most. Maybe just oil drums or a crane.

 

[atya]

The Pakistani Navy has not yet officially acknowledged the submarine sitting on the quay outside its special forces headquarters. The submarine was first revealed on Forbes in April. Since then further satellite images have emerged. These provide additional clues about the unidentified boat.

But more significantly, there may have been a social media leak from an official Twitter account.

On July 3, Rear Admiral M Arshid Javed, Director General Public Relations for the Pakistan Navy, shared a video of a passing out parade. In the video new operatives of the Special Services Group Navy (SSG-N) special forces unit are parading and receiving awards. They are marching in the parade square at PNS Iqbal, the SSG-N’s headquarters and training base. For the first three seconds of the video part of the mystery submarine is visible in the background.

It is covered in tarpaulins but to trained eyes the shape is unmistakable. And it exactly matches the satellite image at the head of this article, which was also taken on July 3. The tarpaulin covering the front of the submarine is a light beige color, and the one over the back is a faded red.

The contours of the tarps may reveal some new details about the submarine. For example we can see the shape created by the forward hydroplanes. Technical details like this will be useful to defense analysts trying to better understand her form and capabilities. But the eye catches another feature hidden beneath the tarps. Running along the top of the hull is a casing which appears to be shaped to cover cylindrical tubes. Logically, this will be for torpedo tubes. These features were not confidently identified at the time of my previous article.

Having two torpedo tubes under the forward casing would match the previous generation of Pakistan Navy submarines used by the SSG-N. Three Cosmos class “X-Craft”, more properly called the Cos.Mo.S MG-110, are in service. These have twin torpedo tubes in almost exactly the same place as the new boat.

In fact the dark sails of two of the Cosmos class “X-Craft” are visible inside a long shed behind the parade. These were built locally in the 1990s to an Italian design. The new boat appears to have been influenced by the Cosmos class but is shorter, around 55 feet long.

The new design likely has the same role as the Cosmos class, which is to act as a transport for SSG-N commandos. It could also perform ISR missions, meaning Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance. In both these roles the torpedoes wold be for self-defense and targets of opportunity.

The location of the new submarine keeps it away from prying eyes, and so far no photographs have emerged. It is near to where the Pakistani Navy’s regular submarines are moored, and where their newest warship, PNS Yarmook, was inducted on July 13. That too was caught on satellite imagery.

No doubt more details of this new submarine will emerge over time. But currently the Pakistani Navy is keeping the covers on it.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hisutt...mystery-submarine-but-new-details-emerge/amp/

 

[HalfMoon]

The Pakistani Navy has not yet officially acknowledged the submarine sitting on the quay outside its special forces headquarters. The submarine was first revealed on Forbes in April. Since then further satellite images have emerged. These provide additional clues about the unidentified boat.

But more significantly, there may have been a social media leak from an official Twitter account.

On July 3, Rear Admiral M Arshid Javed, Director General Public Relations for the Pakistan Navy, shared a video of a passing out parade. In the video new operatives of the Special Services Group Navy (SSG-N) special forces unit are parading and receiving awards. They are marching in the parade square at PNS Iqbal, the SSG-N’s headquarters and training base. For the first three seconds of the video part of the mystery submarine is visible in the background.

It is covered in tarpaulins but to trained eyes the shape is unmistakable. And it exactly matches the satellite image at the head of this article, which was also taken on July 3. The tarpaulin covering the front of the submarine is a light beige color, and the one over the back is a faded red.

The contours of the tarps may reveal some new details about the submarine. For example we can see the shape created by the forward hydroplanes. Technical details like this will be useful to defense analysts trying to better understand her form and capabilities. But the eye catches another feature hidden beneath the tarps. Running along the top of the hull is a casing which appears to be shaped to cover cylindrical tubes. Logically, this will be for torpedo tubes. These features were not confidently identified at the time of my previous article.

Having two torpedo tubes under the forward casing would match the previous generation of Pakistan Navy submarines used by the SSG-N. Three Cosmos class “X-Craft”, more properly called the Cos.Mo.S MG-110, are in service. These have twin torpedo tubes in almost exactly the same place as the new boat.

In fact the dark sails of two of the Cosmos class “X-Craft” are visible inside a long shed behind the parade. These were built locally in the 1990s to an Italian design. The new boat appears to have been influenced by the Cosmos class but is shorter, around 55 feet long.

The new design likely has the same role as the Cosmos class, which is to act as a transport for SSG-N commandos. It could also perform ISR missions, meaning Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance. In both these roles the torpedoes wold be for self-defense and targets of opportunity.

The location of the new submarine keeps it away from prying eyes, and so far no photographs have emerged. It is near to where the Pakistani Navy’s regular submarines are moored, and where their newest warship, PNS Yarmook, was inducted on July 13. That too was caught on satellite imagery.

No doubt more details of this new submarine will emerge over time. But currently the Pakistani Navy is keeping the covers on it.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hisutt...mystery-submarine-but-new-details-emerge/amp/

Great to see PN making great strides.

PN will have more subs than IN in the next few years.

PN has been operating AIP subs for many years now while IN still does not have any AIP subs.

 

[Clutch]

The Pakistani Navy has not yet officially acknowledged the submarine sitting on the quay outside its special forces headquarters. The submarine was first revealed on Forbes in April. Since then further satellite images have emerged. These provide additional clues about the unidentified boat.

But more significantly, there may have been a social media leak from an official Twitter account.

On July 3, Rear Admiral M Arshid Javed, Director General Public Relations for the Pakistan Navy, shared a video of a passing out parade. In the video new operatives of the Special Services Group Navy (SSG-N) special forces unit are parading and receiving awards. They are marching in the parade square at PNS Iqbal, the SSG-N’s headquarters and training base. For the first three seconds of the video part of the mystery submarine is visible in the background.

It is covered in tarpaulins but to trained eyes the shape is unmistakable. And it exactly matches the satellite image at the head of this article, which was also taken on July 3. The tarpaulin covering the front of the submarine is a light beige color, and the one over the back is a faded red.

The contours of the tarps may reveal some new details about the submarine. For example we can see the shape created by the forward hydroplanes. Technical details like this will be useful to defense analysts trying to better understand her form and capabilities. But the eye catches another feature hidden beneath the tarps. Running along the top of the hull is a casing which appears to be shaped to cover cylindrical tubes. Logically, this will be for torpedo tubes. These features were not confidently identified at the time of my previous article.

Having two torpedo tubes under the forward casing would match the previous generation of Pakistan Navy submarines used by the SSG-N. Three Cosmos class “X-Craft”, more properly called the Cos.Mo.S MG-110, are in service. These have twin torpedo tubes in almost exactly the same place as the new boat.

In fact the dark sails of two of the Cosmos class “X-Craft” are visible inside a long shed behind the parade. These were built locally in the 1990s to an Italian design. The new boat appears to have been influenced by the Cosmos class but is shorter, around 55 feet long.

The new design likely has the same role as the Cosmos class, which is to act as a transport for SSG-N commandos. It could also perform ISR missions, meaning Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance. In both these roles the torpedoes wold be for self-defense and targets of opportunity.

The location of the new submarine keeps it away from prying eyes, and so far no photographs have emerged. It is near to where the Pakistani Navy’s regular submarines are moored, and where their newest warship, PNS Yarmook, was inducted on July 13. That too was caught on satellite imagery.

No doubt more details of this new submarine will emerge over time. But currently the Pakistani Navy is keeping the covers on it.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hisutt...mystery-submarine-but-new-details-emerge/amp/

I posted this earlier in the day... https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/paki...e-forbes-magazine.676295/page-2#post-12540382

 

[HalfMoon]

Parday me rehny do..... complete the line.

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

I second that. Pakistan can not build any subs inhouse and has not bought any from outside.
Tarpaulin is just to cover stupid trash for the parade purpose.

First sane response. Hi Sutton is stupid I think. I can say a lot but will keep quiet about the fishing boat.

This project is the best example of "hidden in plain sight." The ones who know, know, and ones who dont know will keep guessing, and the guesses and analysis is just too funny and cringeworthy, and entertaining. So, its right infront of you...keep guessing.

 

[Dalit]

Let these Anglo-Saxons keep guessing.

 

[Genghis khan1]

Most probably training rig for SSGN.

I am waiting for Nuclear powered Bamboo that PN Chief of Naval staff once Announced.

 

[PAR 5]

First sane response. Hi Sutton is stupid I think. I can say a lot but will keep quiet about the fishing boat.

This project is the best example of "hidden in plain sight." The ones who know, know, and ones who dont know will keep guessing, and the guesses and analysis is just too funny and cringeworthy, and entertaining. So, its right infront of you...keep guessing.

This Sutton guy has a typical ''Paralysis by Over Analysis''. Having been dockside at PNS Iqbal I can assure you that the shown dock has no mechanism (such as cranes or rails etc) to place or hoist such a 'mystery sub' and that too out in the open for all to see. PN SSG recently acquired a de-pressurizing chamber from the US that is installed on site as well. The contraption that one may see on this small dock may be a 'Training Rig' for Submarine DSV as pointed out by Genghiskhan1 and nothing else.

 

[Sunny4pak]

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