Pakistan must join the Valdai Club’s proposed nuclear powers talks

[Osiris]

Nor has India - India's tests all fizzled. As of now, India does not have thermonuclear weapons capability.

Pakistans weapons designs worked. They decided to adopt fission bombs for the first set and they all worked.

India attempted thermonuclear - and they all fizzled out and failed.

Facts are a pain for India and you it seems..

None sense ..India tested 4 fission bombs and 1 thermonuclear bomb.

All fission bombs were a complete success.
Even if accept your assumption that Indian fusion bomb fizziled instead going thermonuclear.(which has been proven by Indian government, that it didn't)

India acquired tonnes of data from the test and corrected any mistake in its fusion bombs design.

Where as Pakistan has only tested low yield atomic devices and never tested any thermonuclear devices..has no data to design or improve a thermonuclear device.

Pakistan has only 5 atomic devices more than India (Indians nuclear devices have much bigger yields)..India has more than 4 times the land mass and 6 times the population of Pakistan.

So the amount damage India can inflict on Pakistan in nuclear terms is much more than, what Pakistan can do to India as a nation.

 

[HalfMoon]

If you genuinely believe in all the crap you have written, you are certainly a self aggrandizing idiot. India has 3 decades lead on Pakistan in nuclear research and development. India tested its first nuclear device in 1974 .. Pakistan in 1998.

Pakistan has never even conducted thermonuclear test.

India has much a more massive stockpiles of fissile material than Pakistan i.e. can assemble a lot of nuclear weapons in very short period of time.

Pakistan has just 5 more atomic bombs than India and even then is far behind jn total yield if nuclear stockpile.

India has a true nuclear triad.. Pakistan has a jugaad.

Pakistan which does not even have satellite launching capabilities( where as India has launched 100s in single flight), tried test its hand MIRV for public consumption ..but it turned out to be a massive failure. It has been almost 4 years since first and last Ababeel test and no has heard anything more on this project since then.

Blah Blah Blah.

The fact is Ababeel was a grand success hence Pakistan does not need to test again and again like your failed Indian missiles.

None sense ..India tested 4 fission bombs and 1 thermonuclear bomb.

All fission bombs were a complete success.
Even if accept your assumption that Indian fusion bomb fizziled instead going thermonuclear.(which has been proven by Indian government, that it didn't)

India acquired tonnes of data from the test and corrected any mistake in its fusion bombs design.

Where as Pakistan has only tested low yield atomic devices and never tested any thermonuclear devices..has no data to design or improve a thermonuclear device.

Pakistan has only 5 atomic devices more than India (Indians nuclear devices have much bigger yields)..India has more than 4 times the land mass and 6 times the population of Pakistan.

So the amount damage India can inflict on Pakistan in nuclear terms is much more than, what Pakistan can do to India as a nation.

Indian Nuke test was a grand failure. It was accepted by Indian scientists themselves.

 

[Osiris]

Blah Blah Blah.

The fact is Ababeel was a grand success hence Pakistan does not need to test again and again like your failed Indian missiles.


Indian Nuke test was a grand failure. It was accepted by Indian scientists themselves.

So if Ababeel was a grand success in its first launch itself, never needs another testing ..why has it not been inducted as of yet..it has been 4 years.

 

[crankthatskunk]

If you genuinely believe in all the crap you have written, you are certainly a self aggrandizing idiot. India has 3 decades lead on Pakistan in nuclear research and development. India tested its first nuclear device in 1974 .. Pakistan in 1998.

Pakistan has never even conducted thermonuclear test.

India has much a more massive stockpiles of fissile material than Pakistan i.e. can assemble a lot of nuclear weapons in very short period of time.

Pakistan has just 5 more atomic bombs than India and even then is far behind jn total yield if nuclear stockpile.

India has a true nuclear triad.. Pakistan has a jugaad.

Pakistan which does not even have satellite launching capabilities( where as India has launched 100s in single flight), tried test its hand MIRV for public consumption ..but it turned out to be a massive failure. It has been almost 4 years since first and last Ababeel test and no has heard anything more on this project since then.

Well, idiot does what he does. It is written on the tin.

India also have experience of producing Arjun after 40 years of experience.
Try if you can, only way to find out, like you did in Feb 19.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Exactly.

Once a dumb person always a dumb person. That is India for you.

Pakistan is miles ahead of India both in the number of nuclear weapons and delivery systems.

Pakistan has MIRV tech while India does not.

 

[Osiris]

Well, idiot does what he does. It is written on the tin.

India also have experience of producing Arjun after 40 years of experience.
Try if you can, only way to find out, like you did in Feb 19.

Indians have produced, what Indians have produced, but what have you produced on your own, which Chinese haven't gifted you.

Your indigenous tank is a copy Chinese tank, your indigenous aircraft is designed and produced by the Chinese, your indigenous drone is a ditto copy of the Chinese drone.. even your ballistic missiles are of North Korean and Chinese origin.

Your cruise missile is a copy American missiles which fell on your heads and were then sent to China of reverse engineering.

Even your nuclear programme is based upon centrifuge design stolen by AQ Khan from his employers when he was working in Holland.

Why don't you name a few of your successful projects, which are your own.





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[crankthatskunk]

Indians have produced, what Indians have produced, but what have you produced on your own, which Chinese haven't gifted you.

Your indigenous tank is a copy Chinese tank, your indigenous aircraft is designed and produced by the Chinese, your indigenous drone is a ditto copy of the Chinese drone.. even your ballistic missiles are of North Korean and Chinese origin.

Your cruise missile is a copy American missiles which fell on your heads and were then sent to China of reverse engineering.

Even your nuclear programme is based upon centrifuge design stolen by AQ Khan from his employers when he was working in Holland.

Why don't you name a few of your successful projects, which are your own.

Well, you keep scoring own goals.
Now India produced what India produced.
Pakistan got Chinese help , right!!
Ok lets list what India produced which is 100% its.

I think there are plenty of threads, which tells in details what Help and Equipment India got for everything it produced. You were even given experts to launch your products, from design stage upward.

 

[Osiris]

Well, you keep scoring own goals.
Now India produced what India produced.
Pakistan got Chinese help , right!!
Ok lets list what India produced which is 100% its.

I think there are plenty of threads, which tells in details what Help and Equipment India got for everything it produced. You were even given experts to launch your products, from design stage upward.

No you got it wrong .. Pakistan does not just take Chinese help. Pakistani takes the entire Chinese product and then calls it, as it's own or joint development, but without ever contributed to anything to it development.

I have already given so many examples defence equipment..but here is another cringeworthy example.. "PAKVAC" covid vaccine.

A Chinese vaccine which is not only completely developed in China but also produced in China.

But since Pakistan got the rights to just package it. The Chinese developed and produced vaccine became PAKVAC, with a big Pakistani flag in the middle.

Chinese are buisness men , they don't care who claims the laurels for their products as long as they are getting the money.

Where as, all Pakistan cares for them to be equated in same league as India, even if it mean claiming others achievement as their own.

 

[crankthatskunk]

No you got it wrong .. Pakistan does not just take Chinese help. Pakistani takes the entire Chinese product and then calls it, as it's own or joint development, but without ever contributed to anything to it development.

I have already given so many examples defence equipment..but here is another cringeworthy example.. "PAKVAC" covid vaccine.

A Chinese vaccine which is not only completely developed in China but also produced in China.

But since Pakistan got the rights to just package it. The Chinese developed and produced vaccine became PAKVAC, with a big Pakistani flag in the middle.

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Chinese are buisness men , they don't care who claims the laurels for their products as long as they are getting the money.

Where as, all Pakistan cares for them to be equated in same league as India, even if it mean claiming others achievement as their own.

You need to update your knowledge.
Like I said, quote a product you think is Indigenous to India. Open an new thread and make your claim in bold letters that you are daring members here to prove you wrong.
See the result. Now don't be afraid my friend, you said India is far ahead of Pakistan in nuclear and etc.
The fact is despite getting free hand from the West and NSG, India has not left Pakistan behind in nuclear technology.
I am certain if Pakistan had that opportunity, India would have been crying to the world.
No more tittle tattle, prove it.