Pakistan finally becoming a nation state?

[Zarvan]

Zarvan bhai, youth is angry, I am angry too and want to do more but we have our concerns of very own survival.

How can we forget the famous reply of Hazrat Abdul Muttalib: "I am the owner of the camels. The House too has a Master who looks after it."

I think we have a lesson hidden in the event of Aamul Feel as we are in worst condition than that.

This anger if not dealt with and best way to deal is solve Palestine and other issues. Otherwise it will only make ISIS and AL Qaeda and other groups stronger and whole world will soon start to feel the heat off the lava which is about to explode and burn down everything which stand in its way

 

[Gunsnroses]

This anger if not dealt with and best way to deal is solve Palestine and other issues. Otherwise it will only make ISIS and AL Qaeda and other groups stronger and whole world will soon start to feel the heat off the lava which is about explode and burn down everything which stand in its way

Then we have to rectify our issues first to strengthen our country. We are more than helpless than the Meccans of Aamul Feel time. This is what everybody is saying here.

 

[Mercenary]

There is nothing wrong with Pakistan taking a moral stand towards the Palestinian people or sending aid and helping the Palestinians in their hour of need.

But Pakistan also has to look at its own strategic interests and those interests are not served by making an enemy out of Israel. Our bellicose nature towards Israel has propelled India to forge close relations with Israel and buying advanced Israeli weaponry.

Israel would love to have strong diplomatic relations with a major muslim power like Pakistan and we should exploit that. We can act as an arbiter in the Israeli-Palestinian dispute like Egypt is doing with Hamas and Israel.

 

[livingdead]

ignoring the fake title....
pakistan can do both, take care of issues at home while still taking a stand on the gaza.. there is a difference between doing what is possible and shouting from rooftop without doing anything.
Anyway, the possible reason could be nearly no response from KSA and secret deals with israel.

 

[A.M.]

There is nothing wrong with Pakistan taking a moral stand towards the Palestinian people or sending aid and helping the Palestinians in their hour of need.

But Pakistan also has to look at its own strategic interests and those interests are not served by making an enemy out of Israel. Our bellicose nature towards Israel has propelled India to forge close relations with Israel and buying advanced Israeli weaponry.

Israel would love to have strong diplomatic relations with a major muslim power like Pakistan and we should exploit that. We can act as an arbiter in the Israeli-Palestinian dispute like Egypt is doing with Hamas and Israel.

I wish my friend....i wish....

 

[Luffy 500]

The poison of nationalism. There is no difference between nationalism and tribalism. Btw how is PAK ills blamed on the muslim ummah? PAK is just another case of a muslim country ruled by corrupt thugs. Much of PAK history have been ruled by seculars NOT islamic parties not to mention PAK is very a secular state ruled by secular laws not to mention the ethnic politics by secular parties.Who was bhuttu? A power hungry secular feudal. Btw i m not a nationalist BD anyway. My country is also a corrupt shit hole ruled by thugs just like the rest of the muslim world.

 

[A.M.]

The poison of nationalism. There is no difference between nationalism and tribalism. Btw how is PAK ills blamed on the muslim ummah? PAK is just another case of a muslim country ruled by corrupt thugs. Much of PAK history have been ruled by seculars NOT islamic parties not to mention PAK is very a secular state ruled by secular laws not to mention the ethnic politics by secular parties.Who was bhuttu? A power hungry secular feudal. Btw i m not a nationalist BD anyway. My country is also a corrupt shit hole ruled by thugs just like the rest of the muslim world.

Pakistan's trajectory as a secular nation changed after General zia in the 80s and our involvement in the mujahadeen. You can make the case that it's been all downhill from there.

 

[Zarvan]

There is nothing wrong with Pakistan taking a moral stand towards the Palestinian people or sending aid and helping the Palestinians in their hour of need.

But Pakistan also has to look at its own strategic interests and those interests are not served by making an enemy out of Israel. Our bellicose nature towards Israel has propelled India to forge close relations with Israel and buying advanced Israeli weaponry.

Israel would love to have strong diplomatic relations with a major muslim power like Pakistan and we should exploit that. We can act as an arbiter in the Israeli-Palestinian dispute like Egypt is doing with Hamas and Israel.

No relationship with Israel can take place mr until this issue is solved

 

[rockstar08]

we are going to see a long line of Pakistani , out side hell , in the day of Judgement day

 

[Hiptullha]

Pakistan's trajectory as a secular nation changed after General zia in the 80s and our involvement in the mujahadeen. You can make the case that it's been all downhill from there.

Downhill ever since? What was different in the 1950s and 1960s? There was still great poverty, lack of civil rights and instead of religious fundamentalist movements, separatist movements out there.

The poison of nationalism. There is no difference between nationalism and tribalism. Btw how is PAK ills blamed on the muslim ummah? PAK is just another case of a muslim country ruled by corrupt thugs. Much of PAK history have been ruled by seculars NOT islamic parties not to mention PAK is very a secular state ruled by secular laws not to mention the ethnic politics by secular parties.Who was bhuttu? A power hungry secular feudal. Btw i m not a nationalist BD anyway. My country is also a corrupt shit hole ruled by thugs just like the rest of the muslim world.

This is what everyone forgets.
Would there be any Taliban if those glorious liberal-secular leaders tried to bring change and development to the Northern Areas so that unemployed men wouldn't turn to the Taliban for their bread and butter?
Would we have countless madrassas across the country which injected sectarian hate into the minds of the youth if our public schooling wasn't so inefficient, corrupt, and expensive?
Would there be any bomb blasts or terrorist attacks if our security wasn't so heavily politicized and thus made completely toothless and inefficient?

 

[hunter_hunted]

Those are your problem Mr most Jihadis are Jihadis because off that issue that issue and always will be our problem until it gets solved

So tell me Mr. What are Talibans your brethren and also do tell us about ISIS and if you have time please do tell us BLA and if you still have time please do tell us about Boko Haram.

You can take your Jihad and go fight with Israhell yourself dont drag Pakistan in everyone's affair.

 

[Zarvan]

So tell me Mr. What are Talibans your brethren and also do tell us about ISIS and if you have time please do tell us BLA and if you still have time please do tell us about Boko Haram.

You can take your Jihad and go fight with Israhell yourself dont drag Pakistan in everyone's affair.

You will keep getting dragged until goverments keep betraying Islam and Muslims

 

[hunter_hunted]

You will keep getting dragged until goverments keep betraying Islam and Muslims

Betraying ??????? Are you serious. We helped Afghanistan and Arab countries and tell me who come for Pakistan in hour of need ...... none

 

[Zarvan]

Betraying ??????? Are you serious. We helped Afghanistan and Arab countries and tell me who come for Pakistan in hour of need ...... none

O mr after nuclear tests it was Arabs who were giving you money and free oil 65 and 71 you got funding and little bit military helped although there military sucked Indonesia in one war sent ship in Swat after operation its UAE government who has helped you establish hospitals and schools

 

[hunter_hunted]

O mr after nuclear tests it was Arabs who were giving you money and free oil 65 and 71 you got funding and little bit military helped although there military sucked Indonesia in one war sent ship in Swat after operation its UAE government who has helped you establish hospitals and schools

Free or fucking Kidding me Arabs and free. These two things don't go hand in hand.