Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[iLION12345_1]

I Know. But there has been much talk of PA using f16s(or other air assets) without committing itself completely against IA especially those f16s in bholari and Northern sindh.

PAF assets can and will be used for ground strikes (at the moment the mirages are more dedicated to such ops), that is how combined arms warfare works. But against armored formations Multiple rocket systems like Nasr, Fatah and A100 are more effective, plus attack helicopters are specifically for that purpose, hunting armor.
For the last 3 decades or so Pakistan had a decisive edge over India when it came to Attack helicopters, Pakistan had a large fleet of cobras while India had a few Mi24s, we built on that by also getting Fennecs and Mi35Ms, but then it kind of came crashing down when the AH1Zs were blocked and the Indian apaches were delivered, as those AH1Zs were supposed to help us keep that edge. Now with the T129 being blocked as well, we are at a disadvantage there, one that hopefully we can balance soon with a new acquisition from China or elsewhere.

 

[arjunk]

There are better, cheaper, efficient and deadlier ways to handle an Indian armored division.

Like cluster bombing them to hell using JF-17? Or "terrorist locusts"...

 

[Sinnerman108]

Upgraded Mirage-2000s are on par with F-16C/Ds

OK, True. But in what scenario and Duty ?

The Mirage is by design optimized to intrude and bomb really fast.
Once those perimeter are removed, then Mirage has problems that F-16 solves.
But as a design compromise, F-16 is not the best / fastest intruder

 

[Cookie Monster]

There are better, cheaper, efficient and deadlier ways to handle an Indian armored division.

@PanzerKiel sir mujhe CBU105 eidee mein de dein.

 

[Raja Porus]

Which anti-tank cluster munition is used by PAF?

 

[nomi007]

It is the right time to play the Afghan peace card if we want to upgrade our F-16s to block 72 standards and also get Ah-1z.

 

[Blacklight]

Interesting layout - obviously a pure BVR layout with a FLIR/IRST mounted pod?

Mounted Pod = Sniper Pod
4 Aim120C & 2 AIM-9 Sidewinders

 

[Blacklight]

Which anti-tank cluster munition is used by PAF?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1099945128687529984

 

[Goritoes]

Its sad that such a beauty and beast machine, and PAF can not get their hands on its latest models, F-16's always kept the balance of Power in S.Asia , I hope America and PAF works towards some sort of deal for 18-36 F-16V's with option of upgrading PAF existing Fleet to V Standards.

 

[Waterboy]

Mounted Pod = Sniper Pod
4 Aim120C & 2 AIM-9 Sidewinders

Sir any updates on new Block 72 vipers for PAF?

 

[Blacklight]

Sir any updates on new Block 72 vipers for PAF?

Sir @PanzerKiel knows their status better

On another note, (just my opinion) all NEW builds will be Blk70's and not 72's, in light of this:
GE Aviation awarded four F110 engine contracts worth $707m

 

[Blacklight]

There are better, cheaper, efficient and deadlier ways to handle an Indian armored division.

By telling them, that you are on the job?

 

[Deltadart]

Its sad that such a beauty and beast machine, and PAF can not get their hands on its latest models, F-16's always kept the balance of Power in S.Asia , I hope America and PAF works towards some sort of deal for 18-36 F-16V's with option of upgrading PAF existing Fleet to V Standards.

It seems highly unlikely that any of the above will ever come to fruition. However, in case we still have that uncontrolled desire or just desperate to acquire more F16s, or upgrades to the existing fleet, well then it will all depend on what we have to offer in return, (think of musharraf days), and you will have your answer. Let's put it this way; the price will be very steep in national dignity and sovereignty.

 

[WiderMan]

Sir @PanzerKiel knows their status better

On another note, (just my opinion) all NEW builds will be Blk70's and not 72's, in light of this:
GE Aviation awarded four F110 engine contracts worth $707m

Incorrect.

 

[mingle]

Incorrect.

He is correct all Blk70 are standard version you can't add anything decided by then Sec Asper there will be no blk72 unless PAF opted V upgrades on used Airframes