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First question is with those brothers saying JF17 is better than F16 and etc
Do you really see actual production alteast one sqr minimum of 4 to 5 year, There big no block 3 still on intial trials its already too late will be late futher .. claim will become only actual reality when these plan came and face the air. (Thander block 3 claims)
I agree these are good birds but .. still to young to gian actual confidence of PAF pilots not Babas running project or earning.

Secondly Project AZM
Its right now only on papers, i hope it becomes reality but still it take a dacade or dacade and half (10 to 15 year) to run prototype.. so production you can have idea ..

Final question
Do you think our enemy will wait for final induction of project AZM to be materialized than thay will go some misadventure untill thay will wait see
Please wakeup.. we have enemy on our head ready for other misadventure we are discussing that will project have best way/option for few internal people self financing
 
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First question is with those brothers saying JF17 is better than F16 and etc
Do you really see actual production alteast one sqr minimum of 4 to 5 year, There big no block 3 still on intial trials its already too late will be late futher .. claim will become only actual reality when these plan came and face the air. (Thander block 3 claims)
I agree these are good birds but .. still to young to gian actual confidence of PAF pilots not Babas running project or earning.

Secondly Project AZM
Its right now only on papers, i hope it becomes reality but still it take a dacade or dacade and half (10 to 15 year) to run prototype.. so production you can have idea ..

Final question
Do you think our enemy will wait for final induction of project AZM to be materialized than thay will go some misadventure untill thay will wait see
Please wakeup.. we have enemy on our head ready for other misadventure we are discussing that will project have best way/option for few internal people self financing
The JF17A block 3 is supposed to be a worthy equal to the F16 fleet we have in service, in my eyes it's a way better option than the F16 for geopolitical reasons and expenses. I mean the block 2 aircraft certainly proved it's worth during Op Swift Retort so it's also a combat proven aircraft.

As for Project Azm, it is supposed to take that long, we shouldn't rush on it and give it some time, things like these require baby steps and I'd say it's worth the effort to be able to indigenously build Next generation Aircraft as well as Drones.

P.s PAF very well knows the enemy can strike anytime, once again inshallah we will be ready to meet them and rout them again.
 
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The JF17A block 3 is supposed to be a worthy equal to the F16 fleet we have in service, in my eyes it's a way better option than the F16 for geopolitical reasons and expenses. I mean the block 2 aircraft certainly proved it's worth during Op Swift Retort so it's also a combat proven aircraft

Sir can please what actually jf done during Feb 27 except escorting them other plans, all is done by F16 and Mirage 5 along 3 with help of others

Please first understand 27 th operation in detial its participants and there role, thandars was just escorting
 
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Very well said!!
He is a talker..j15...loool yes we have requirement for a carrier aircraft with no carrier. You want to believe him go ahead. Men who seek fame seldom tell the truth. He didnt break the news re the V70 early. He just made up a story and lit the fire and Pakistani fan boys turned it into and inferno
 
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He is a talker..j15...loool yes we have requirement for a carrier aircraft with no carrier. You want to believe him go ahead. Men who seek fame seldom tell the truth. He didnt break the news re the V70 early. He just made up a story and lit the fire and Pakistani fan boys turned it into and inferno
You are such a bore. Give it a rest!
 
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Sir can please what actually jf done during Feb 27 except escorting them other plans, all is done by F16 and Mirage 5 along 3 with help of others


Please first understand 27 th operation in detial its participants and there role, thandars was just escorting
Who stated that they were only escorts? Strike Formation Wg Cdr. Adnan was Awarded Tamgha-e-Basalat.

Timestamped for you. Kindly watch & listen to what Sqn Ldr. Sibtain says and see the images shown 17:28


Here is an image from the same footage in case you missed out.

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So, perhaps you should put the whole 'Escort only' narrative to bed.
 
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Who stated that they were only escorts? Strike Formation Wg Cdr. Adnan was Awarded Tamgha-e-Basalat.

Timestamped for you. Kindly watch & listen to what Sqn Ldr. Sibtain says and see the images shown 17:28


Here is an image from the same footage in case you missed out.


So, perhaps you should put the whole 'Escort only' narrative to bed.
Please go to PAF
Who stated that they were only escorts? Strike Formation Wg Cdr. Adnan was Awarded Tamgha-e-Basalat.

Timestamped for you. Kindly watch & listen to what Sqn Ldr. Sibtain says and see the images shown 17:28


Here is an image from the same footage in case you missed out.


So, perhaps you should put the whole 'Escort only' narrative to bed.
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Who stated that they were only escorts? Strike Formation Wg Cdr. Adnan was Awarded Tamgha-e-Basalat.

Timestamped for you. Kindly watch & listen to what Sqn Ldr. Sibtain says and see the images shown 17:28


Here is an image from the same footage in case you missed out.


So, perhaps you should put the whole 'Escort only' narrative to bed.

All the main action are done by By marriage 5 and then 3 to hit targets
Shooting of indian jet was done by F16.


Remaining come publicity of thandars we all remember what ISPR said intially killing was by JF thunders .. later we all came to know actual story .


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Who stated that they were only escorts? Strike Formation Wg Cdr. Adnan was Awarded Tamgha-e-Basalat.

Timestamped for you. Kindly watch & listen to what Sqn Ldr. Sibtain says and see the images shown 17:28


Here is an image from the same footage in case you missed out.


So, perhaps you should put the whole 'Escort only' narrative to bed.
Please go to PAF
Who stated that they were only escorts? Strike Formation Wg Cdr. Adnan was Awarded Tamgha-e-Basalat.

Timestamped for you. Kindly watch & listen to what Sqn Ldr. Sibtain says and see the images shown 17:28


Here is an image from the same footage in case you missed out.


So, perhaps you should put the whole 'Escort only' narrative to bed.
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Please go to PAF
All the main action are done by By marriage 5 and then 3 to hit targets
Shooting of indian jet was done by F16.


Remaining come publicity of thandars we all remember what ISPR said intially killing was by JF thunders .. later we all came to know actual story .
Okay, whatever you say. I suppose the Documentary by the PAF is false too, right?

There have been many who have come here in the past & got burned/schooled for attempting to prove their point.

I'm NOT gonna go :offtopic: as Members & Mods take it seriously. I urge you to do the same, rookie.

There is a Topic where you can take this conversation if you need further clarification....

27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/27-f...fts-inside-pakistani-airspace-dg-ispr.604031/

Note: Attaching images of the Monument at Mushaf Base does not prove anything in regard to the roles of the Mirages OR JF-17, those Tails are kills of the F-16.

@waz @Side-Winder
 
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First question is with those brothers saying JF17 is better than F16 and etc


Being better and advanced in Pakistani context is a relative term. A 60 or so years old Pakistani mirage would beat a Pakistani block 52 f16 in land and naval warfare hands down . Similarly a block 2 thunder takes the lead over all existing paf assets in every dimension - - - - - - - - As I said f16 and it's technical edge is now reduced to a token of loyalty /neutrality
 
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