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Exactly and also needs to diversify and plus local productionIt's a good start but needs to continue at pace and scale up.
oh what stringent economic conditions? Their budget is the least effected.Army is performing well even with the stringent economic conditions and constant politcal instability.
Hilux are being armoured up.
New MRAP induction now.
New drones with TOT.
Whatever anyone says the boys get things done.
Why wasting money on this to fight american war in Pakistan and Afghanistan using our tax money ?
Are you a retard or something??Why wasting money on this to fight american war in Pakistan and Afghanistan using our tax money ?
Why not to invest this money on health, education and well being of Pakistanis so to stop them from becoming terrorist ?
With the current events it appears that pakistan army top leadership dont want peace in Pakistan as this will reduce there importance hence can threaten power of generals ...
The peaceful world exists only in books. In fact one smart man said that the time difference between two wars is mistaken as peace. Ukraine wanted to live in peace so was stupid enough to give away nukes. Now they are getting lot of peace by loosing hundreds daily. Yes I have serious issue with current military leadership and their role in politics, and imposing monsters like Nawaz and Zardari on us. Still I don't have any delusion that not investing in weapons would bring peace. No it won't !!!! Humanity since start has been killing each other. So either you are ready to eliminate your enemy or your enemy will eliminate you.Why wasting money on this to fight american war in Pakistan and Afghanistan using our tax money ?
Why not to invest this money on health, education and well being of Pakistanis so to stop them from becoming terrorist ?
With the current events it appears that pakistan army top leadership dont want peace in Pakistan as this will reduce there importance hence can threaten power of generals ...
To be fair to his point. TTP and BLA won't have existed if Musharraf would have not adopted disastrous policies of getting involved with US and taking U turn and entering Tribal areas the way he did. And for Baluchistan well Bugti matter could have been handled differently.Are you a retard or something??
TTP and BLA are killing our people so how is this America's war??
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Are these the latest Chinese Humvees or do you have some newer vehicles as well? Do they have V shaped hull?
Agreed but there has to be a balance ... Our balance is tilted alot in favor of armed forces ...The peaceful world exists only in books. In fact one smart man said that the time difference between two wars is mistaken as peace. Ukraine wanted to live in peace so was stupid enough to give away nukes. Now they are getting lot of peace by loosing hundreds daily. Yes I have serious issue with current military leadership and their role in politics, and imposing monsters like Nawaz and Zardari on us. Still I don't have any delusion that not investing in weapons would bring peace. No it won't !!!! Humanity since start has been killing each other. So either you are ready to eliminate your enemy or your enemy will eliminate you.
To be fair to his point. TTP and BLA won't have existed if Musharraf would have not adopted disastrous policies of getting involved with US and taking U turn and entering Tribal areas the way he did. And for Baluchistan well Bugti matter could have been handled differently.
Still people stay on topic. If you want to discuss politics and history go to those sections. We have plenty such sections on this great forum.
We don't have balance due to corruption civilian side. Let say today we get oil, plus lithium and our yearly earning gets 1500 billion dollars each year and 150 billion dollars is spend on defence. Trust me the other 1350 billion dollars still won't do any good if corruption on civilian side is not controlled. Problem is our incompetent civilian leaders like Nawaz and Zardari. You give them 100000 billion dollars each year and still no good will come out of that and only they would rob all of it.Agreed but there has to be a balance ... Our balance is tilted alot in favor of armed forces ...
And if u really believe its the current military leadership only responsible of current chaos then i totally disagree ... Chief cant do it without support from core commanders ...
Military equipment are necessary but are of no use if we have hungry masses ... Military leadership is treating us like slaves born to pay tax for their power ... This has to stop ... Pakistan and its military are for people of Pakistan its not the other way around
Didnt you see the whole Video the dude said the tank was destroyed and Ukraine took the ERA plates to put on its own tanks.Not happy with these ERA Plated armour result is devastating in Russia Ukraine war
Russia using in place of Expensive ERA with Rubber filled on those plate for cheap options
Proof of the live video captured Russian tanks
Pakistan army must not go for such era but go for new active protection system for all round protection better than VT 4 GL 5 design new one
Sorry my friend ... Who brought these nawaz and zardari ?We don't have balance due to corruption civilian side. Let say today we get oil, plus lithium and our yearly earning gets 1500 billion dollars each year and 150 billion dollars is spend on defence. Trust me the other 1350 billion dollars still won't do any good if corruption on civilian side is not controlled. Problem is our incompetent civilian leaders like Nawaz and Zardari. You give them 100000 billion dollars each year and still no good will come out of that and only they would rob all of it.
And who put Nawaz and Zardari back in charge and ousted the one individual and party that was actually trying to change the status quo and enact reforms?We don't have balance due to corruption civilian side. Let say today we get oil, plus lithium and our yearly earning gets 1500 billion dollars each year and 150 billion dollars is spend on defence. Trust me the other 1350 billion dollars still won't do any good if corruption on civilian side is not controlled. Problem is our incompetent civilian leaders like Nawaz and Zardari. You give them 100000 billion dollars each year and still no good will come out of that and only they would rob all of it.
thousands of soldiers lives and limbs late20 years late![]()