Pakistan Army has not violated LOC Indian claims are false.

[BHarwana]

HAhahahahahahahahah

Topi Drama Nahi mukta India ka.

A new story by India: This is too much Bollywood. Stick to one statement lol

Fallen Indian soldiers might have walked into death trap


The Indian army patrol, whose two members were beheaded by Pakistani special forces today, might just have walked into a death trap laid by the enemy, official sources said.

The incident in Krishna Ghati sector along the Line of Control in Jammu and Kashmir occurred when a joint team of the army and BSF had gone to check the veracity of an intelligence report that landmines had been planted by Pakistani troops on the Indian side.

As they were looking for landmines, the patrol was taken by surprise by Pakistan's Border Action Team (BAT) which had laid an ambush over 250 metres deep inside the Indian territory.

While the Pakistani troops attacked two forward posts with rockets and mortar bombs, the BAT personnel lay in wait for their targets. The Indian army patrol too came under fusillade of gunfire, resulting in the death of two soldiers.

The BAT personnel quickly moved in and beheaded two fallen soldiers, official sources said in New Delhi.

It was still not known if landmines had indeed been planted in the area.

K K Sharma, the Director General of BSF, one of whose personnel was killed in the attack and decapitated, met Union home secretary Rajiv Mehrishi and briefed him on the incident.

"It was a pre-planed operation by Pakistan army. They had pushed in the Border Action Team over 250 metres deep inside Indian territory and set up the ambush for a long period to carry out the attack," a senior officer said in Jammu.

"Their target was a patrol party of 7-8 members, which had come out of a post," the officer said, adding that as the posts were engaged, the patrol team members ran for cover.

Two troopers--one of the army and another of BSF-- were targeted by the BAT.

Head Constable Prem Sagar of 200th Battalion of the BSF and Naib Subedar Paramjeet Singh of 22 Sikh Regiment of the army were killed and their bodies mutilated.

The BAT is specifically employed for trans-LoC action.

In Pakistan, the SSG (special services group) forms the core of BAT. Its primary task is to dominate the LoC by carrying out disruptive actions in the form of surreptitious raids.

There have been several BAT attacks in the past in which jawans have been beheaded or their bodies mutilated.

On October 28, 2016, militants attacked a post and killed an Indian army soldier and mutilated his body close to the Line of Control (LoC) in the Machil sector.

In January 2013, Lance Naik Hemraj was killed and his body mutilated by BAT. It also beheaded Lance Naik Sudhakar Singh. Constable Rajinder Singh of the BSF suffered injuries in the attack.

In June 2008, a soldier of the 2/8 Gorkha Rifles lost his way and was captured by BAT in Kel sector. His body was found beheaded after a few days.

During the 1999 Kargil conflict, Captain Saurabh Kalia was tortured by his Pakistani captors who later handed over his mutilated body to India.

In February, 2000, terrorist Ilyas Kashmiri had led a raid on the Indian army's 'Ashok Listening Post' in the Nowshera sector and killed seven Indian soldiers.

Even then, Kashmiri had taken back to Pakistan the head of a 24-year-old Indian jawan Bhausaheb Maruti Talekar of the 17 Maratha Light Infantry.

(This article has not been edited by DNA's editorial team and is auto-generated from an agency feed.)

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/repor...ers-might-have-walked-into-death-trap-2424217

 

[RISING SUN]

Ok, so let me understand this: A handful of Pakistani BATs were able to infiltrate heavily fenced LOC under full view of thermal cameras and drones, were able to kill two Indian soldiers, were able to mutilate them and were able to go home for drinks without being engaged by the Indians? - @Icarus

One more clueless person, obviously you wouldn't have gone through the posted news articles. Very much accepted.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/140139-Pak-Army-rejects-Indian-accusations-of-killings-soldiers

Will anyone every accept such kind of acts? That's like saying PA will accept genocide if they did it in past.

 

[Icarus]

As soon as they were in open, PA opened fire with rockets and mortars

Rockets and Mortars are terrible anti-personnel weapons. Seems terribly unlikely, its like trying to squat a bee with a bazooka. Doesn't work.

After this PA would had opened cover fire and BAT team would have come few meters inside India and mutilated two bodies lying there

Cover fire doesn't discriminate, you cant move in the same direction as the cover fire. Plus, like I said, these are not the few meters of a delhi park. This is virtually impassable terrain we are talking about. I'll see if I can find a picture to fully impress upon you the reality of how unforgiving the terrain is.

What I know that IA will payback with interest.

Since you seem to know fairly little about everything else, I hope you will allow me the leniency to assume that you don't know much about this either and are just parroting the NC.

 

[shahbaz baig]

Pak Army rubbishes India's claim of mutilating soldiers' bodies along LoC
By News Desk
Published: May 1, 2017
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Pakistan Army is a highly professional force and shall never disrespect a soldier even Indian, says ISPR. PHOTO: REUTERS/FILE

The Pakistan Army on Monday rubbished the allegations of mutilating Indian soldiers’ bodies, saying it would never disrespect a soldier’s body.

“Pakistan Army did not commit any ceasefire violation on the Line of Control or a BAT [Border Action Team] action in the Buttal sector (Indian Krishna Ghatti Sector) as alleged by India,” the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) said on Monday.

“Indian blame of mutilating Indian soldiers’ bodies are also false.
Pakistan Army is a highly professional force and shall never disrespect a soldier even Indian,” it maintained in a statement.

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https://twitter.com/x/status/859028246473658368

Earlier today, Indian army claimed that Pakistani forces killed two Indian soldiers and mutilated their bodies along the Line of Control, Hindustan Times report.

Indian firing along LoC injures two civilians

It said the Pakistani troops opened fire on Indian posts in the Krishna Ghati sector of Poonch district, and members of Border Action Team (BAT) attacked a patrolling party.

COAS visits Pak-Afghan border

Meanwhile, Army chief General Qamar Javed Bajwa said the writ of the state had largely been restored and Pakistan is progressing towards enduring peace and stability.

https://twitter.com/x/status/859017122516574208

Gen Qamar spent a day with troops deployed along the Pak-Afghan border in Khyber Agency wherein he was briefed about operational preparedness and improved border security measures, the ISPR said.

He was also briefed on the employment of newly raised Frontier Corps Khyber Pakhtunkhwa wings, the statement added.

Woman critically injured in Indian ‘unprovoked’ firing along LoC

The COAS appreciated effective border security arrangements which have enhanced control on cross border terrorist movement. He also hailed exceptionally high morale of the troops and their undaunted determination to eliminate terrorism.

Talking to the soldiers, Gen Qamar said the nation supports the Army due to the innumerable sacrifices made for the defence and security of the motherland.

Earlier, upon arrival, COAS was received by Commander Peshawar Corps Lieutenant General Nazir Ahmed Butt and IGFC K-P.

 

[RISING SUN]

Rockets and Mortars are terrible anti-personnel weapons. Seems terribly unlikely, its like trying to squat a bee with a bazooka. Doesn't work.



Cover fire doesn't discriminate, you cant move in the same direction as the cover fire. Plus, like I said, these are not the few meters of a delhi park. This is virtually impassable terrain we are talking about. I'll see if I can find a picture to fully impress upon you the reality of how unforgiving the terrain is.



Since you seem to know fairly little about everything else, I hope you will allow me the leniency to assume that you don't know much about this either and are just parroting the NC.

First point, clarity that IA posts would have been targeted by Mortars and rockets to allow BAT team the space to enter India. Two Indian soldiers might have gotten in the way or they might have suffered small arms fire.
Second point, cover fire doesn't mean firing on 9 member team, but rather cover fire in this context means firing on nearby Indian forces posts so that they are unable to render assistance to affected soldier. quite simple and clear strategy, don't you think.

Rest you can assume anything about me. I might not have been on Kashmir border, but I have known these strategies as my two immediate relatives including brother are in the field and are part of CI ops being part of special forces. Thank you very much.

 

[shahbaz baig]

DG ISPR Pakistan has not violated LOC Indian claims of Pakistan Army Mutilating Indian solders are false.

Pak Army rubbishes India's claim of mutilating soldiers' bodies along LoC

 

[Zarvan]

Ok, so let me understand this: A handful of Pakistani BATs were able to infiltrate heavily fenced LOC under full view of thermal cameras and drones, were able to kill two Indian soldiers, were able to mutilate them and were able to go home for drinks without being engaged by the Indians? - @Icarus

And we went 250 meters inside there territory sat there for hours waited for there patrol party to appear and than attacked and killed them and mutilated there bodies and than returned back to have tea this is what they are saying

 

[Icarus]

First point, clarity that IA posts would have been targeted by Mortars and rockets to allow BAT team the space to enter India

This idea rests on the assumption that:

1. The PA knew of the departure and schedule of the patrol.
2. The so-called "BAT" had either infiltrated earlier or was able to do so instantaneously. Since the latter is not possible, we will assume the former to be true.

In which case there is very possibly a mole on the Indian side and that is a cause for great concern.

Two Indian soldiers might have gotten in the way or they might have suffered small arms fire.

At which point, focus would have shifted back to the posts since those men posed no further risk but the posts and their mortar batteries did.

Second point, cover fire doesn't mean firing on 9 member team, but rather cover fire in this context means firing on nearby Indian forces posts so that they are unable to render assistance to affected soldier. quite simple and clear strategy, don't you think.

Indeed but as I said, cover fire doesn't discriminate and would endanger our men crossing over as well. Secondly, the whole things could be accomplished a lot more smoothly if no indication of an incursion (surgical strike in IA terms) had been given in the form of any fire which would have been completely superfluous and the men had simply ambushed the small patrol and retreated back to their own position. That would save a lot of ammunition and potential losses without foregoing the element of surprise.

Rest you can assume anything about me. I might not have been on Kashmir border, but I have known these strategies as my two immediate relatives including brother are in the field and are part of CI ops being part of special forces. Thank you very much.

My immediate relatives are cloth merchants but I don't get to tutor people on the fine differences between chicken, lawn and karandi. To me, everything is "cloth".

 

[Windjammer]

It's in Indian's nature to create hysteria as a diversionary tactic which has been previously busted by General Musharaf.

https://twitter.com/x/status/859060936451260416

 

[beijingwalker]

India says Pakistan killed 2 Indian soldiers in Kashmir

AIJAZ HUSSAIN
Associated PressMay 1, 2017

SRINAGAR, India (AP) — Two Indian soldiers were killed and their bodies mutilated Monday in an ambush by Pakistani soldiers along the highly militarized de facto border that divides the disputed region of Kashmir between the nuclear-armed rivals, the Indian army said. But Pakistan denied any such attack, calling the Indian claims false.

Separately, five police officials and two bank employees were killed when suspected rebels ambushed a bank van in Indian-controlled Kashmir, police said.

Pakistani soldiers fired rockets and mortars at two Indian positions southwest of the Line of Control in the Krishna Ghati sector, the army said in a statement.

It said Pakistani soldiers also ambushed an Indian patrol operating between the two posts and mutilated the bodies of two Indian soldiers.

The statement called the incident an "unprovoked" firing by Pakistani soldiers and said the "unsoldierly act" would be "appropriately responded."

The Pakistani army denied committing any cease-fire violation along the Line of Control. It said in a statement that Indian allegations of mutilating Indian soldiers' bodies were also false.

"Pakistani army is a highly professional force and shall never disrespect a soldier, even an Indian," it said.

In the past, both countries have accused the other of initiating border skirmishes leading to the deaths of soldiers and civilians on both sides.

Last year, Indian and Pakistani soldiers engaged in some of the worst fighting along the Line of Control since the two nations agreed to a cease-fire accord in 2003. India accused attackers from the Pakistani side of Kashmir of entering the Indian-held portion and mutilating the body of one of three slain Indian soldiers, leading to days of fighting along the frontier.

India and Pakistan have a long history of bitter relations over Kashmir, a Himalayan territory claimed by both. They have fought two of their three wars over the region since they gained independence from British colonial rule in 1947.

The Line of Control is guarded by the Indian and Pakistani armies and divides the two parts of Kashmir. Each country also has a separate paramilitary border force guarding the lower-altitude frontier separating Indian-controlled Kashmir and the Pakistani province of Punjab.

Also Monday, suspected rebels ambushed and sprayed gunfire at a bank van late in the southern Kulgam area, killing five police officials and two local bank employees, including a driver, senior top police officer Syed Javaid Mujtaba Gillani said.

He said the police were guarding the van and were returning to Kulgam after distributing cash to some bank branches.

There was no independent confirmation of the incident.

Rebel groups have been fighting since 1989 for Indian-controlled Kashmir's independence or merger with Pakistan.

Nearly 70,000 people have been killed in the rebel uprising and a subsequent Indian military crackdown.

The rebel groups have largely been suppressed by Indian forces in recent years. However, public opposition to Indian rule remains deep and is now principally expressed through street protests marked by youths hurling stones at government forces.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/india-says-pakistan-killed-2-indian-soldiers-kashmir-104013884.html

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

Reply Is Given ASAP

Like Always ISPR Never Tell you this

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[RISING SUN]

And we went 250 meters inside there territory sat there for hours waited for there patrol party to appear and than attacked and killed them and mutilated there bodies and than returned back to have tea this is what they are saying

You are making up stories.

 

[Mrc]

According to indian definition ... thats a surgical strike

 

[Tameem]

You are making up stories.

 

[#hydra#]

I want to start a war with Pakistan, enough with this humiliation. Either destroy them or destroy by thin. Let it be an end to this game.