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Pakfa analysis by me!

Thanks for the reply!

there is NO OFFICIAL value of RCS by Dassault & others
its all the predicted RCS


as for how Rafale has such a reduced RCS & IR signature, its a combination of many things
i tried to explain some in that thread...
http://www.defence.pk/forums/650413-post1315.html

the whole theory of Rafale is just three points

"there is NO OFFICIAL value of RCS by Dassault & others its all the predicted RCS"

Which is exactly why I said i will give you the "benefit of the doubt

I read somwhere that the Rafale has a 2m2 RCS again which is why I said I doubt the
validity of that doc. The rafale, EF or the SH are very my much conventional 4 gen designs. Even if I were to believe those figures, they have got to be in clean config - given the missiles carried by these planes would have a min of .1m2 RCS and with all the firepower on these planes that RCS has gotta be much more.
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The second T-50 is already finished.

[http://www.argumenti.ru/army/n261/81886/


The first flying prototype fifth-generation fighter, Sukhoi T-50, who has performed several dozen operations, will soon add a second. This will greatly speed up the testing of the airplane.
plane is almost assembled and take off, perhaps in November. Followed her from Moscow to Komsomolsk-on-Amur flew the host team of specialists. The second board is equipped with facilities to be installed on combat aircraft. Although his full kit - all radars, defense system and armament control system be installed only on the third and fourth T-50. They raise the air in 2011.
Following the first four aircraft will be assembled boards of pre-party. Its size is estimated to be between 6 to 10 aircraft. These cars will complete a cycle of flight tests, and then pass the state and army trials, which will begin in 2013.

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К первому летному экземпляру истребителя пятого поколения «Сухой» Т-50, который выполнил уже несколько десятков полетов, скоро добавится второй. Это сильно ускорит испытания самолета.
Машина уже практически собрана и взлетит, возможно, в ноябре. За ней из Москвы в Комсомольск-на-Амуре вылетела принимающая бригада специалистов. Второй борт оснащен оборудованием, которое будет установлено и на боевом самолете. Хотя полный его комплект – все радары, комплекс обороны и систему управления вооружением установят только на третьем и четвертом Т-50. Их поднимут в воздух в 2011 году.
Следом за первыми четырьмя бортами будут собраны самолеты предсерийной партии. Ее размер ориентировочно составит от 6 до 10 самолетов. Эти машины завершат цикл летных испытаний, затем пройдут государственные и войсковые испытания, которые начнутся в 2013 году.
 
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Russia, India to begin design of 5G-fighter in December

Russia, India to begin design of 5G-fighter in December | Defense | RIA Novosti


Russia is planning to sign in December an agreement with India on the preliminary design of a joint fifth-generation fighter aircraft, a senior Russian aircraft industry official said on Wednesday.
Russian Sukhoi holding and Indian Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) agreed in early 2010 to jointly develop a fifth-generation fighter jet, tentatively dubbed PAK FA.
"An agreement with India on the pre-design of the PAK FA will be signed in December," said Alexei Fyodorov, head of Russia's United Aircraft Corporation.
The sides agreed to develop both a single-seat and a two-seat version of the aircraft by 2016, focusing on the single-seat version in the initial stages of development.
The new aircraft will most likely be based on Russia's T-50 prototype fifth-generation fighter, which has already made several test flights and is expected to join the Russian Air Force in 2015.
Russia has been developing its fifth-generation fighter since the 1990s. The current prototype, known as the T-50, was designed by the Sukhoi design bureau and built at a plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur in Russia's Far East.
Russian officials have already hailed the fighter as "a unique warplane" that combines the capabilities of an air superiority fighter and attack aircraft.
 
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