Pak PM Imran Khan and Subramanian Swamy tussle on twitter

[N.Siddiqui]

Well Done. IK. IK is targeting the Indian state, not this two penny Swiny.

Seems as though PM IK is the real opposition to the BJP bigotry controlled by a more racist/fascist RSS ideologue of hatred and supremacist ideas. The Congress has gone for a hiding...and Rahul and ministers will say a few points against Modi economic policies, 45 year high joblessness and all that but they will not utter a single word against Swami, Yogi and Pragya and others hateful rhetoric against Muslims...on the fear of loosing Hindu votes..

So Pakistan and PM IK seems to be fighting it out for Indian Muslims/Indian seculars(if there is any) and highlighting this issue in intl' forums...UN speech, many other interviews he talked about hateful ideology taken over India.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1499293

 

[xyxmt]

I got few things to say here.

1. Modi has never responded to IK's twitter tirade so far and i don't see him doing it in future.

2.Susu(pun) Swamy is a different creature all together and if you gonna charge at him, he will do counter attack that will make your ears bleed.

3. Susu Swamy had been a bete noire of RSS for most part of his life.

he is not capable of doing it, if he does it will yet become another humiliation for him

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

We are not secular because we never claimed that we would be one. Not even when Pakistan wasn't created

You are secular on paper only and you have shoved that paper in the rear side of each and every minority group in past 70 plus years. You have used that piece of paper to f*ck oppressed and minority groups

As I said we are an Islamic Republic but still treat minorities than your so called secular country because we are not hypocrites like you

We didn't use false promise of secularism to capture more and more land

We would not only criticize your chai wala pm or his nazi party but we would humiliate that chamar everywhere we get a chance to

Sorry, complete wrong!

If you do deep analysis than you will understand that " why is India a secular country "

1. Anyone can be pm or president in India and we have good examples. Can possible in Pakistan?

2. Do any company select anyone based on the religious? Fvcking no...

3. Do have we separate national identity cards based on the religious? Fvcking no..
Yaar lists can on.... I can give so many examples.

Coming to current situation, yes modi and bjp is hard liner when comes to religious. So definitely, there will be more challenges for Muslims in India.

Hindu sena, vhp, bajrang bal or any hind organization will get more political support and confidence to act against Muslims.

However, does it change India secular image?
And is yes, it will give some wrong impression to the world. But it is very much temporary...

I would say that 100s, modi or Amit will come and go but we will be a secular country. We will live together, work together, eat together and fight together against any enemy

(sometimes we fight within in house against each other. But it happens in a common family)

 

[SIPRA]

A good attack by IK against this Hindutvadi gang of criminals, murderers, scoundrels and rascals.

 

[SIPRA]

Your post is another example why India is called the most ignorant nation in the world

This Hindutvadi lot is master in fabricating and concocting things out of thin air. Their lies and deceptions know no limits. These people are really the scum of the earth.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

All you're left with is so many bla bla bla... The biggest difference of all is IK is PM of Pak. Modi is PM o India. Thankfully he can read and write in three languages afaik that'd make him a literate, who am I talking about the definition of literacy, lol lucky 3 of 5 where 2in 5 are illiterates.

Remarkable isn't it, the amount of abuse Khan gets from Indians is a hundred times greater than anything Sharif or Benazir used to get. Even Musharraf, who shagged your nation on Tiger Hill, didn't get half of what Khan gets.

Khan must therefore be doing something right.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Thought and read India is a super power in its own right...a league of its own.

It was a dream of our greatest scientist, leader and a man.

As you are aware that he was a Muslim. I really feel pain when anyone make fun of him. He is my ideal after my parents, along with Mr. Atal bihari Vajpayee.

 

[Balbir]

Bhai, Hindustan is de facto Hindu rashtra. Its secularist citizens are simply butt hurt about it. There's little Pakistan can do to help these secularists. They need to help themselves and stop drinking the koolaid first of all.

I'm proud of the fact that India is a secular country. And would fight till my breath to keep it that way.

But wHy Muslim Rastra Pakistan is so bothered whether Hindustan is Hindu rastra or secular country? This question will certainly to minds of neutral thinkers.

Muslim rastra Pakistan is already theocratic state for last 70 year while no RSS/BJP manage to change Indian Constitution to turn into a Hindu rastra.

And even if India becomes a Hindu rastra, it will be a mirror image of Muslim rastra Pakistan. Then Hindu rastra will decide who is a true Hindu like muslim rastra Pakistan decide who true muslim e,g the case of Ahmadis.

So don't worry pakistan, If India decide to be Hindu rastra in future, it will be much familiar and predictive for Muslims rastra Pakistanis.

 

[crankthatskunk]

I am pretty sure that even some Muslims (Ahmadi, Shia, Sufi) are not equal among Muslims in Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Its mind-boggling, the irony.

All Muslims and with them all non-Muslims are equal in the Pakistani law. Do you see anyone saying anything different here!
Those who do, we criticise them.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Pakistani members: It’s been reiterated multiple times that attacks on a faith of abusing a member are not acceptable. Please refrain from violating forum rules - you can make your point without resorting to such language.

Indian members: There is nothing to defend in Swamy’s comments in the OP. They are disgusting and hate-mongering. Only those of you who are bigots could sit here and defend or justify them. When the offense is as clear cut as it is here, it wouldn’t be unpatriotic or anti-national of you to just condemn them and take the opportunity to build bridges with Pakistanis or your own Indian Muslims.

 

[notorious_eagle]

Let me try to understand!

Is Pakistan chaukidaar of all Muslims in the world?

If yes then, why no words if it comes to China?

So that's your counter, just because Pakistan does not say anything against the Uighur treatment by the Chinese, the Indian Government should be allowed to discriminate and continue its subjugating policies against the Muslims in India.

You sir deserve an award, justifying horrible behavior with equally horrible behavior.

I stand with my words that after almost 2 years ( imran tenure) and including modi (6 years), modi is not feasible towards relationship with pak and he does not show any interest to improve relationship as well.

To be honest, that's fine. Pakistan demonstrated on Feb 27 that India is toothless when it comes to punishing Pakistan militarily, so if there is no relationship that is perfectly fine.

After 5 years, what imran will have on his plate when people will ask for Kashmir status? Anyone can frustrated and same reason I told, yes I accept that modi is Hitler for him.

Unfortunately, its not only Imran but Indian muslims consider Modi a Nazi too. Feel free to read the commentary of Indian Muslims on this forum. You have successfully isolated 20% of your population. So far your fellow Hindu brothers have been butchering Indian Muslims, what will happen when India's 200 million Muslims also start picking up arms to defend themselves.

India is a constitutionally secular country unlike Pakistan and does not legally discriminate against its minorities. At the social level India has always had issues between different religious groups and that has increased under Modi rule for the past 6 years . But India constitutionally still remains secular. At the social level, Pakistan also has incidents of mistreatment of its minorities . Google will easily throw up all the information required on that front.

Who gives a sh** if India is constitutionally a secular country or not? India can call itself whatever it wants as per its constitution, but the reality does not change it. There is a slow pogrom towards Indian Muslims and its very obvious. This is why Indian Muslims are yelling at the top of their lungs but nobody is listening. Just look at the opinions of the Indian Muslims on this forum. I get you as a Hindu would give less of a rats arse, but does not change the reality for Indian Muslims.

The only difference is, mistreatment of minorities in Pakistan is not at the scale that we see in India and it certainly not backed by the State. In fact, just recently when a Hindu doctor was abused and mistreated, politicians and civilians across party lines condemned it. Can you say the same about India? The CM of your biggest State and Amit Shah openly are hostile against Muslims, and that can be seen with with what we saw in Delhi and the lynching of Muslims across India.

I have never seen Amit Shah or Swamy call for genocide of Muslims. They may be anti Muslim but they are not calling for genocide of anyone. So that's a pure lie you just wrote there. Modi also has never "proudly called himself the butcher of Gujarat". This another pure lie.

You yourself admit that they are Anti Muslim . Imagine if their counterparts in Pakistan were openly Anti Hindu, you would be yelling at the top of your lungs. And they are not stupid to openly call for their genocide, they are smart and letting their policies speak for themselves.

Go back and see the election of 2013. Modi proudly said that he would do the same with Pakistan with what he did in Gujrat. What did he do in Gujrat? Allowed the butchering of 2000 Muslims. Stop playing dumb please.

The moment a person pleads allegiance to a constitutionally discriminatory country like Pakistan that legally discriminates against its minorities they lose the right to criticize India or at least be taken seriously about it.

You can call India a secular country, or a martian country or a SU30MKI country. Does not matter. Look at your policies, not what you call yourself. People like Modi, Yogi, Amit Sha, Subram (who you admit are Anti Muslim) would never be leaders of Secular Countries, so please stop.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Remarkable isn't it, the amount of abuse Khan gets from Indians is a hundred times greater than anything Sharif or Benazir used to get. Even Musharraf, who shagged your nation on Tiger Hill, didn't get half of what Khan gets.

Khan must therefore be doing something right.

heh we don't care who your PM is. IK, Sharif, or Bhutto they're all the same to us. We know who holds the real power in Pakistan. Of all the ones in PMs in Pakistan, IK and his cabinet are the only ones who are acting out. Neither of them has a clue on how to handle diplomacy, all you're doing is burning the bridges. Forget domestic policy, has IK achieved anything in foreign policy?

Just because he tweets a lot about India that garner attention from some Indians and politicians doesn't make him a better PM.

 

[notorious_eagle]

I'm proud of the fact that India is a secular country. And would fight till my breath to keep it that way.

But India is not a secular country. If it was, people like Yogi, Subram, Modi and Amit Shah would never be in the positions where they are today. So i guess you lost your battle. And Indian members on this forum certainly seems to think that too.

 

[BL33D]

All Muslims and with them all non-Muslims are equal in the Pakistani law. Do you see anyone saying anything different here!
Those who do, we criticise them.

You dont even consider them muslims and you ar saying you treat them equal. They cant even become PM in your country. Discriminated by constitution. We have a problem of implementation in India.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

So that's your counter, just because Pakistan does not say anything against the Uighur treatment by the Chinese, the Indian Government should be allowed to discriminate and continue its subjugating policies against the Muslims in India.

You sir deserve an award, justifying horrible behavior with equally horrible behavior.



To be honest, that's fine. Pakistan demonstrated on Feb 27 that India is toothless when it comes to punishing Pakistan militarily, so if there is no relationship that is perfectly fine.



Unfortunately, its not only Imran but Indian muslims consider Modi a Nazi too. Feel free to read the commentary of Indian Muslims on this forum. You have successfully isolated 20% of your population. So far your fellow Hindu brothers have been butchering Indian Muslims, what will happen when India's 200 million Muslims also start picking up arms to defend themselves.



Who gives a sh** if India is constitutionally a secular country or not? India can call itself whatever it wants as per its constitution, but the reality does not change it. There is a slow pogrom towards Indian Muslims and its very obvious. This is why Indian Muslims are yelling at the top of their lungs but nobody is listening. Just look at the opinions of the Indian Muslims on this forum. I get you as a Hindu would give less of a rats arse, but does not change the reality for Indian Muslims.

The only difference is, mistreatment of minorities in Pakistan is not at the scale that we see in India and it certainly not backed by the State. In fact, just recently when a Hindu doctor was abused and mistreated, politicians and civilians across party lines condemned it. Can you say the same about India? The CM of your biggest State and Amit Shah openly are hostile against Muslims, and that can be seen with with what we saw in Delhi and the lynching of Muslims across India.



You yourself admit that they are Anti Muslim . Imagine if their counterparts in Pakistan were openly Anti Hindu, you would be yelling at the top of your lungs. And they are not stupid to openly call for their genocide, they are smart and letting their policies speak for themselves.

Go back and see the election of 2013. Modi proudly said that he would do the same with Pakistan with what he did in Gujrat. What did he do in Gujrat? Allowed the butchering of 2000 Muslims. Stop playing dumb please.



You can call India a secular country, or a martian country or a SU30MKI country. Does not matter. Look at your policies, not what you call yourself. People like Modi, Yogi, Amit Sha, Subram (who you admit are Anti Muslim) would never be leaders of Secular Countries, so please stop.

Do you think Indians realize that in a democracy no rule is permanent, and its the rule of the majority. Rules can be broken or made once you have majority. This is what Jinnah said. No amount of constitutions or clauses can save once the majority turns against you.