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PAF jets fly over Siachen

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LOL, PAF's AIM-120C's will eat these ducklings alive. Su-30's would be easy dinner for our jets armed with most advanced BVRs in the region.

USAF F-16s butchered Su-30's in redflag exercises precisely due to massive radar signature of Sukhois---radar signature that was pounded on by American pilots via their AMRAAM 120 missile series.

PAF has hundreds upon hundreds of AIMRAAM 120C series missiles in her arsenal..

PAF butchered iaf in previous wars, and would do the same again Inshallah!


They where in hiding in 99 when the northern light infantry was massacred by laser bombing and bofers artlliary.

Entire regiment wiped out and paf stood and watched mirage 2000 jaguars destroy the mountain ridges .

The f16 are sanction prone thanks to Indian ally the USA.

Your left with the Chinease third tier f7 and your new untested and unknown thunders
 
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They where in hiding in 99 when the northern light infantry was massacred by laser bombing and bofers artlliary.

Entire regiment wiped out and paf stood and watched mirage 2000 jaguars destroy the mountain ridges .

The f16 are sanction prone thanks to Indian ally the USA.

Your left with the Chinease third tier f7 and your new untested and unknown thunders
That was 1999....the year is 2017 as of today. Times have changed....
 
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That was 1999....the year is 2017 as of today. Times have changed....


your 100% correct times have changed because in 1999 IAF did not have
Phalcon Awacs
or even a single su30mki
Or Israeli supplied spyder Sams
or S300 abm system or indeed dedicated military satalites .
 
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your 100% correct times have changed because in 1999 IAF did not have
Phalcon Awacs
or even a single su30mki
Or Israeli supplied spyder Sams
or S300 abm system or indeed dedicated military satalites .
The PAF didn't have BVR missiles and AWACS aircraft as well. Now they do....with ECM jamming pods for the SAMs.

Also what does the JF-17 pic have to do with this topic ??
 
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They where in hiding in 99 when the northern light infantry was massacred by laser bombing and bofers artlliary.

Entire regiment wiped out and paf stood and watched mirage 2000 jaguars destroy the mountain ridges .

The f16 are sanction prone thanks to Indian ally the USA.

Your left with the Chinease third tier f7 and your new untested and unknown thunders
It's Indians who think Kargil was a "war" for Pakistan it was a small scale incursion with a mix of regulars and irregulars. Pakistan never had more than 500 to 600 troops involved in a limited incursion into India. No need to involve the PAF. It was India which had to mobilize 4 Divisions and its top line fighters to deal with the incursion. It was IAF that lost 4 aircrafts and not PAF. IAF was bombing its own territory and never dared to cross the LOC after the initial losses. A number of IAF planes were painted and stopped any desires on part of IAF to come even come close to the border. In the end Indian losses and casualties were much higher and Pakistan is still sitting on Indian peaks. BTW a regiment is not a fighting formation and NLI very much around kicking Indian butt.
 
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It's Indians who think Kargil was a "war" for Pakistan it was a small scale incursion with a mix of regulars and irregulars. Pakistan never had more than 500 to 600 troops involved in a limited incursion into India. No need to involve the PAF. It was India which had to mobilize 4 Divisions and its top line fighters to deal with the incursion. It was IAF that lost 4 aircrafts and not PAF. IAF was bombing its own territory and never dared to cross the LOC after the initial losses. A number of IAF planes were painted and stopped any desires on part of IAF to come even come close to the border. In the end Indian losses and casualties were much higher and Pakistan is still sitting on Indian peaks. BTW a regiment is not a fighting formation and NLI very much around kicking Indian butt.

Not to mention Pakistan was maintaining that its forces were not involved in the war. Why would PAF enter a war that was going in Indian occupied Kashmir & when the country was claiming it wasn't involved? This line of PAF being too scared to enter the conflict has been cooked up Indians and it's often repeated on this forum but it fails the most basic scrutiny.

PAF enjoys an excellent record against the IAF & this backed by international experts. It's PAF that has created aces etc. let the record speak for itself. Others can bark.
 
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Not to mention Pakistan was maintaining that its forces were not involved in the war. Why would PAF enter a war that was going in Indian occupied Kashmir & when the country was claiming it wasn't involved? This line of PAF being too scared to enter the conflict has been cooked up Indians and it's often repeated on this forum but it fails the most basic scrutiny.

PAF enjoys an excellent record against the IAF & this backed by international experts. It's PAF that has created aces etc. let the record speak for itself. Others can bark.

You can't have aces in 2017. With your current inventory
Look what you have equipped your air force with today.
A budget fighter from China third tier way behind fc20 and their huge flanker fleet.
Legacy f16 which USA will almost certainly sanction in war with India
And obsolete mirages and f7.

Compare the inventory of saudi Japan Korea south Taiwan Israel Uae or India who have bigger better more potent more modern fighters and a far more aggressive doctrine .

Paf has one squadron of block 52.fighters which are genuinely world class the rest adds up to modest defense fighters or obsolete bomb trucks .

Look around your area see what others inducting and compare what you have then tell others they are barking

You people opened the thread paf buzzing saichen.
 
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Not to mention Pakistan was maintaining that its forces were not involved in the war. Why would PAF enter a war that was going in Indian occupied Kashmir & when the country was claiming it wasn't involved? This line of PAF being too scared to enter the conflict has been cooked up Indians and it's often repeated on this forum but it fails the most basic scrutiny.

PAF enjoys an excellent record against the IAF & this backed by international experts. It's PAF that has created aces etc. let the record speak for itself. Others can bark.

Sir when we critisize PAF then its not about PAF pilots but about the decision makers at PAF and GHQ ...

Why they were friad of coming outfront when cat was out of the box ... NS had already accepted that boys were ours so at that time PAF and GHQ should have provide them air cover at the time they were retreating but contrary in order to save their ugly faces they let them butchered ...
 
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THIS IS SAICHEN TODAY......... I doubt a single PAF fighter will fly close TODAY with these beasts on patrol

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Although that image is not from Siachen, however elsewhere it was your MKI which was forced to turn turtle when an SD-10 armed JF-17 appeared on the scene.

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You can't have aces in 2017. With your current inventory
Look what you have equipped your air force with today.
A budget fighter from China third tier way behind fc20 and their huge flanker fleet.
Legacy f16 which USA will almost certainly sanction in war with India
And obsolete mirages and f7.

Compare the inventory of saudi Japan Korea south Taiwan Israel Uae or India who have bigger better more potent more modern fighters and a far more aggressive doctrine .

Paf has one squadron of block 52.fighters which are genuinely world class the rest adds up to modest defense fighters or obsolete bomb trucks .

Look around your area see what others inducting and compare what you have then tell others they are barking

You people opened the thread paf buzzing saichen.

The time of aces has gone. There is hardly any one on one engagement. Also its not only about hardware, it's also about strategy, tactics, training, integration, networking, operational readiness, intelligence etc. Combined with our non-nuke strategic capability PAF will be a very tough opponent to IAF and they know it hence the only thing that comes from India to Pakistan is a lot of chest thumping, false bravado, hot air and occasional #arts.
 
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Combined with our non-nuke strategic capability PAF will be a very tough opponent to IAF and they know it hence the only thing that comes from India to Pakistan is a lot of chest thumping, false bravado, hot air and occasional #arts.

The Indians did not boast about flying over Aachen. Thst fart or chest thumb came from pakistani.

Also please dispense with farting about nuclear weapons again it's boring especially to India who has true nuclear triad of
Arihant sub launched nukes
True ICBM nuclear tipped missles
And hydrogen thermo nuclear warheads.
 
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The Indians did not boast about flying over Aachen. Thst fart or chest thumb came from pakistani.

Also please dispense with farting about nuclear weapons again it's boring especially to India who has true nuclear triad of
Arihant sub launched nukes
True ICBM nuclear tipped missles
And hydrogen thermo nuclear warheads.
Actually the Indians have been fooling their public for over two decades about their Foxbat flying over Islamabad without fear and challenge.....that was until recently the bubble burst that it barely entered the border.
The PAF flew over Siachen only to neutralize a certain threat perception from India.
Hence, the Mirages particularly conducted that mission.
 
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