Outstanding(Rated) Schools of Birmingham

[313ghazi]

Interesting how people want to have all the benefits of a tolerant and inclusive society but without really changing themselves into tolerant and inclusive individuals.

Children need to understand differences in people so they are tolerant when they grow up. They don't just suddenly become gay. Number of factors involved. Tolerance is important and children need to given deep understanding how people are different so they don't judge when they grow up.

This is idiocy of radicalized undesirables living in birmingham who should all be shipped out, no place for these types in Britain.

Nobody has an objection to this. Having grown up in the UK at a time where people weren't able to openly express their sexual orientation, i can see how society has changed, and adults as well as children need to understand these different identies to avoid causing offence/friction.

The problem is the content is not being defined centrally, it's upto the school and some schools are not taking parents into consultation. This creates suspicion. The new legislation clearly states that parents have to be taken into consultation and that content delivered has to be age appropriate.

Look at the news article below.

Are they really going to teach this to children?

This is a mainstream UK newspaper - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...olchildren-taught-latest-victory-transgender/

school children will be taught that "all genders" can have periods in new sex education lessons, in a victory for transgender rights campaigners.

The advice to teachers was approved by Brighton & Hove City Council as they try to tackle stigma around menstruation.

The new advice follows a council report which said: "Trans boys and men and non-binary people may have periods", adding that "menstruation must be inclusive of all genders".

Now at my school girls were taught about periods from a young age, 9 or 10 i think. At that age, children don't know about sexuality, i don't think it's appropriate for them to be confused with this extremely unlikely edge case. Now if my childrens school had a girl or boy attending who was trans, i think it would be imperative for the kids to learn about this, so that child is not stigmatised - but in a situation where that is not the case, is it appropriate for 9 year old to be taught this? If they were teaching it to 13 year olds, i don't mind. At that point kids have enough information to process this correctly.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Children need to understand differences in people so they are tolerant when they grow up. They don't just suddenly become gay. Number of factors involved. Tolerance is important and children need to given deep understanding how people are different so they don't judge when they grow up.

This is idiocy of radicalized undesirables living in birmingham who should all be shipped out, no place for these types in Britain.

When EDL rant on about Muslims and how Britain should not be multicutural they fly against British values of being intolerant. Those very values that go against EDL and their ilk also mean we [Muslims] must show tolerance to those we don't agree with.

You can't cry tolerance at EDL but then show intolerance to LGBT .....

 

[Azadkashmir]

Today this, tomorrow something else, all in small incremetal steps. then one day they want sex change becuase it is normal now.

 

[Death Professor]

Today this, tomorrow something else, all in small incremetal steps. then one day they want sex change becuase it is normal now.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

It is good for children to be inclusive(be a member of the society you live in),learning about LGBT doesnt make you gay or lesbian( fear of many Muslim parents) because of the exclusive communities( ''getto's'') all over Europe,there is already a ''paralel society'' situation which has led to many trouble(terrorist cells,acts,sharia like laws in some neigborhoods etc) all over Europe.

Notice. Of all the UK, Of all the schools. Of all the communities. Of all the Sikhs, Hindu's, Christians, Rasta, Buddhists etc Whose making waves about being 'intolerant'?

*Muslims*.

 

[Azadkashmir]

even white people are against it read the comment on the youtube video. comments like white man has been castrated, only muslims left to fight against this agenda.

 

[313ghazi]

I'm involved in a project called Stop RSE. https://stoprse.com/

The aims of the group are stated here - https://stoprse.com/index.php/about-2/
It's setup by Dr. Kate Godfrey-Faussett, a chartered psychologist and psychotherapist.

I am personally involved in the group to be aware of what RSE is. I don't think stopping it altogether is the appropriate answer, but I feel the group is doing a great job of mobilising parents to get involved with their childrens school and actively participate in how and when RSE is delivered.

Like I said - i've no objection with my children being aware of different types of sexuality, rather than they become aware of it at an appropriate age. To this extent i'm getting involved with other parents at my childrens school to contribute towards what parents think is appropriate.

I encourage other people to do the same. As other people have rightfully stated; knowing about alternative sexual behaviours doesn't make you gay. Those of us who grew up in the UK as Muslims knew not to eat pork, we knew not to drink alchohol, we knew not to do drugs or have girlfriends/boyfriends. As children we'd read the ingredients on packets of foods to check if it was suitable for Muslims to eat. Your children are intelligent and resiliant - you are their ultimate guide of what is right and wrong.

When they grow up, they'll make up their own mind regardless, but whilst they are children, your job as a parent is to educate them and guide them, not hide them.

Notice. Of all the UK, Of all the schools. Of all the communities. Of all the Sikhs, Hindu's, Christians, Rasta, Buddhists etc Whose making waves about being 'intolerant'?

*Muslims*.

Wrong, not surprised though. The most effective lobbying group has been the Jewish community. They're the model to follow.

https://humanism.org.uk/2018/02/14/...n-for-homophobic-teaching-in-english-schools/

They actually wrote an excellent letter to the government - https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...-avoid-lessons-on-gay-relationships-68wj898jt

 

[Azadkashmir]

I have been to Birmingham Indus, alum rock is disgusting. EDL is an extreme and for sure the majority of people who live in Birmingham are also an extreme. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Normal integrated Brit Pakistanis living in London should serve as a benchmark. Anyone that came to UK after 1980s from Pakistan is utter dross and here which lies the problem and we are painted with the same brush.

normal integrated brit Pakistanis in London like Nawaz Sharif and altaf bhai. They never seem to be intergrated in Pakistan, when they over there.

 

[313ghazi]

normal integrated brit Pakistanis in London like Nawaz Sharif and altaf bhai. They never seem to be intergrated in Pakistan, when they over there.

Good point. Nobody ever mentions white flight - ie white people deliberately leaving areas where other ethnic communities settle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_Birmingham#Asian

Check out these maps. They are excellent. They'll show how black, Asian (including Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Indian), Arab and even Irish communities of Birmingham have no problem living in areas that overlap. The only people who move out of those areas are white people. If they had included eastern European in these maps they'd show the same - they'd live in the same areas as everyone else - apart from the goray.

Even when we people move out into the nice suburbs, these people up sticks and move somewhere else.

 

[Azadkashmir]

Good point. Nobody ever mentions white flight - ie white people deliberately leaving areas where other ethnic communities settle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_Birmingham#Asian

Check out these maps. They are excellent. They'll show how black, Asian (including Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Indian), Arab and even Irish communities of Birmingham have no problem living in areas that overlap. The only people who move out of those areas are white people. If they had included eastern European in these maps they'd show the same - they'd live in the same areas as everyone else - apart from the goray.

Even when we people move out into the nice suburbs, these people up sticks and move somewhere else.

some of them want to live broad with good climate and tax free.

 

[313ghazi]

The campaign to prevent this is gaining success.

The new Education Secretary is gutting plans for compulsory sex and relationship education in all schools, amid pressure from faith groups.

Damian Hinds became Secretary of State for Education last month, taking the post from out minister Justine Greening – who had launched a review of government guidance on sex and relationship education (SRE).

Ms Greening had backed plans for compulsory, LGBT-inclusive SRE to be taught all schools – but pressed on the issue over the weekend, Mr Hinds said he would champion the right of parents to withdraw their kids from lessons they object to.

Speaking to the Times, Hinds said he would maintain the current rule that parents can withdraw their children from SRE classes.

He told the BBC: “There’s already an established right to take your children out of sex education lessons.

“What we’re doing is bringing in relationships education in primary school and relationship and sex education in secondary schools.

“Those lessons will be in all schools… it will be compulsory to have them in all schools, but as I say there’s an established right which will continue for parents to be able to withdraw their children from the sex education bits of relationships and sex education.

“That right exists and will continue.”

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/02/...usive-sex-ed-amid-pressure-from-faith-groups/

You see this is what people do in a free and democratic society - exercise their democratic rights and demand change.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Today this, tomorrow something else, all in small incremetal steps. then one day they want sex change becuase it is normal now.

I saw a ghost of white Victorian in my dad's grand old house. It's a huge mansion in sprawling gardens built around 1850s. What did the White Victirian ghost say? What the hell are you darkies doing in my country? What the hell are you doing in my house?

And I told him "my mean man the world changed. Women are equal to men, darkies are equal to you, gays are equal to you".

 

[Azadkashmir]

I saw a ghost of white Victorian in my dad's grand old house. It's a huge mansion in sprawling gardens built around 1850s. What did the White Victirian ghost say? What the hell are you darkies doing in my country? What the hell are you doing in my house?

And I told him "my mean man the world changed. Women are equal to men, darkies are equal to you, gays are equal to you".

good for you now wear a dress.

 

[Menace2Society]

I have an ideal society in mind where everyone is treated with equality and respect and this begins in the classroom at a young age.

I don't believe in faith schools. Schools should be build on logic, reason and science.

My ideal society can't be achieved with faith schools and their dogmas coming in the way regardless if they are white or ethnic.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

They're the model to follow.

Agreed. But they do have advantages.

Like I said - i've no objection with my children being aware of different types of sexuality, rather than they become aware of it at an appropriate age.

The problem you will find is that what is exactly 'appropriate' is going to be markedly differant from the majority in the country. Most indigenous British are athiest in all intents and purposes and just go along with Christian rituals few times a year.