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It is probably too early to sense the shape of the post-COVID world. But there are some early hints of how international partnerships might be shaped by the crisis. Recently, senior officials of the four “Quad” countries (Australia, India, Japan and the United States) teleconferenced about how to respond to the pandemic.

Quad meetings are no longer unusual. But this one was special because it included three additional Indo-Pacific powers: NewZealand, South Korea and Vietnam. The call, reportedly initiated by the US Deputy Secretary of State Steve Beigun, was intended to exchange notes on how these powers were tackling the COVID-19 pandemic.[1]

But it also raises a broader question: Is this is a sign of possible expansion of the Quad mechanism, and how might such an expansion be feasible?

Indeed, whether this was even a “Quad-Plus” meeting is an open question. It appears that only the Indian government formally announced that this meeting was held, and true to fashion, New Delhi did not reference the Quad at all.

The Indian Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) in a readout of the March 20 meeting only said that these countries had a telephonic conference to share best practices and collaborate in their efforts to contain the spread of the virus.[2] It will reportedly occur on a weekly basis, and covering a range of issues including cooperative vaccine development, addressing questions around stranded citizens, and minimising economic impacts.

However, a press report from a prominent Indian foreign affairs correspondent was more direct, stating that the meeting was also an

“attempt to keep the Quad-plus countries within a certain sphere of influence and strategic direction.”[3]

The Quad-plus countries have held subsequent meetings, discussing not just battling the current pandemic situation but also sharing of technologies, and more importantly, ways to get the global economy back on track without significant setback.[4] They also appear to have agreed on the need to initially focus on the public health dimension of the crisis, and therefore will first target the development of vaccines, manufacture of equipment and calibrating treatment options.

Each of the “plus three” parties are an important partner the Quad countries. Vietnam is an important strategic partner for all four Quad members.[5] South Korea is also, despite the latter’s somewhat troubled relations occasionally with Japan and the US. Importantly, Seoul has managed COVID-19 successfully in comparison to other regional governments.

Perhaps the most surprising country in the list is New Zealand. Its inclusion is noteworthy because, despite being one of the Five Eyes nations, Wellington has generally been reluctant to be perceived as targeting China in any way. It did not initially endorse the Indo-Pacific concept, presumably because it may have strained ties with China. At the 2018 Shangri La Dialogue, the New Zealand Defence Minister Ron Mark stuck to the old formulation of Asia-Pacific and resisted the term Indo-Pacific.[6] In October 2018, speaking at the MFAT@75 Conference in Wellington, Ben King, Deputy Secretary Americas and Asia Group at Ministry of Foreign and Trade Affairs (MFAT), defended and emphasised its preference for the term Asia-Pacific.[7] Given New Zealand’s heavy economic dependence on China, its positioning was probably understandable.[8]

However, New Zealand’s view has changed recently, with the country formally adopting the Indo-Pacific formulation in February 2020, presumably the result of Wellington’s growing security concerns about China.[9] New Zealand appears to have taken yet another step forward in joining the telephone diplomacy along with other key Indo-Pacific powers.

New Zealand’s path to the Quad mirrors the evolution in Indian thinking. Like New Zealand, India too had traditionally shied away from choosing between the United States and China. But China’s aggressive behaviour in attempting to deny India the strategic space it seeks in the Indo-Pacific, as well as in global platforms such as the Nuclear Suppliers’ Group (NSG) has propelled New Delhi to shift increasingly towards partnerships with others in the Indo-Pacific.

Like others, India had been somewhat uncomfortable with the Quad because of the perception that it was a containment effort against China. But it appears now, in light of recent developments, to be fully invested.

All of this is a big advance for the Quad. Initially labelled the Quadrilateral Security Dialogue (QSD), the Quad made a comeback in November 2017 when officials from the foreign ministries of India, Australia, Japan and the US met in Manila on the sidelines of the ASEAN and East Asia Summits to discuss areas of common interest in the regional and global context.[10] This was the first time that the officials from these countries met after the initial efforts to form the Quad fell apart a decade back.

According to the MEA’s press release, discussions focused on the

“converging vision and values for promotion of peace, stability and prosperity in an increasingly inter-connected region that they share with each other and with other partners.”[11]

Subsequent meetings amongst officials in 2018[12] and 2019[13] have concentrated on similar concerns. In a sign of further progress and political commitment, in 2019 Quad meetings were elevated to the foreign minister level.[14]

These institutional developments indicate that the concerns that gave rise to the formation of the original Quad in 2006-07, and its revival in 2017, not only remain relevant but have deepened.

The strategic consequences of China’s rise, its aggressive military posturing and the tendency to use threat of force have become more prominent in the Indo-Pacific. If the Quad’s progress has been somewhat hesitating, the reason is not hard to find: most countries in the region have significant economic exposure to China. This dependence constrained their capacity to participate in a mechanism which the Chinese government has expressly opposed.[15]

But as China’s behavior has become increasingly assertive, many governments' strategic calculus have begun to change. The very fact that there are more countries over the last year endorsing the Indo-Pacific concept is an indicator of things to come. ASEAN’s adoption of an Outlook on the Indo-Pacific in 2019, following previous reticence to explicitly use the Indo-Pacific formulation, is a telling example.[16]

The slow but steady institutionalisation of the Quad suggests that its future expansion is a real possibility.

Efforts to coordinate responses to COVID-19 by the Quad-Plus countries may be a means to expand the original formulation at a pace that would be comfortable to potential new members and without eliciting a Chinese rebuke. It would be hypocritical for China to oppose countries collaborating on COVID-19 when it has itself made precisely such calls.[17] But such cooperation
also sets the stage for further Quad dialogue on other problems these countries face, potentially including security problems.

Indeed, a Quad-Plus expansion makes sense for a number of reasons. One is the common security concern these countries share regarding China’s behaviours. Each have faced Chinese pressure plays in recent years, and harbor concerns regarding China’smilitaryand political expansion into areas they consider their ‘neighbourhood’. Additionally, none are in a position to effectively challenge China on a bilateral basis, making minilateral cooperation with like minded partners a better approach.

Together, these factors provide a pragmatic path to greater security cooperation via a Quad-Plus arrangement in future years. Expanding the Quad is not going to be easy, and will bring with it challenges of divergent concerns and burden sharing problems. But there is clearly an impetus for Quad expansion that will begin to find expression in coming months.

https://www.orfonline.org/research/towards-a-quad-plus-arrangement-65674/
 
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It's funny how they have endless meetings, endless boasting, but when the time comes to put up or shut up like in this pandemic, they fold like a cheap gambler trying to bluff his way in Vegas.
 
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sea.jpg

The Quad ships sailing through the Bay of Bengal

It is probably too early to sense the shape of the post-COVID world. But there are some early hints of how international partnerships might be shaped by the crisis. Recently, senior officials of the four “Quad” countries (Australia, India, Japan and the United States) teleconferenced about how to respond to the pandemic.

Quad meetings are no longer unusual. But this one was special because it included three additional Indo-Pacific powers: NewZealand, South Korea and Vietnam. The call, reportedly initiated by the US Deputy Secretary of State Steve Beigun, was intended to exchange notes on how these powers were tackling the COVID-19 pandemic.[1]

But it also raises a broader question: Is this is a sign of possible expansion of the Quad mechanism, and how might such an expansion be feasible?

Indeed, whether this was even a “Quad-Plus” meeting is an open question. It appears that only the Indian government formally announced that this meeting was held, and true to fashion, New Delhi did not reference the Quad at all.

The Indian Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) in a readout of the March 20 meeting only said that these countries had a telephonic conference to share best practices and collaborate in their efforts to contain the spread of the virus.[2] It will reportedly occur on a weekly basis, and covering a range of issues including cooperative vaccine development, addressing questions around stranded citizens, and minimising economic impacts.

However, a press report from a prominent Indian foreign affairs correspondent was more direct, stating that the meeting was also an

“attempt to keep the Quad-plus countries within a certain sphere of influence and strategic direction.”[3]

The Quad-plus countries have held subsequent meetings, discussing not just battling the current pandemic situation but also sharing of technologies, and more importantly, ways to get the global economy back on track without significant setback.[4] They also appear to have agreed on the need to initially focus on the public health dimension of the crisis, and therefore will first target the development of vaccines, manufacture of equipment and calibrating treatment options.

Each of the “plus three” parties are an important partner the Quad countries. Vietnam is an important strategic partner for all four Quad members.[5] South Korea is also, despite the latter’s somewhat troubled relations occasionally with Japan and the US. Importantly, Seoul has managed COVID-19 successfully in comparison to other regional governments.

Perhaps the most surprising country in the list is New Zealand. Its inclusion is noteworthy because, despite being one of the Five Eyes nations, Wellington has generally been reluctant to be perceived as targeting China in any way. It did not initially endorse the Indo-Pacific concept, presumably because it may have strained ties with China. At the 2018 Shangri La Dialogue, the New Zealand Defence Minister Ron Mark stuck to the old formulation of Asia-Pacific and resisted the term Indo-Pacific.[6] In October 2018, speaking at the MFAT@75 Conference in Wellington, Ben King, Deputy Secretary Americas and Asia Group at Ministry of Foreign and Trade Affairs (MFAT), defended and emphasised its preference for the term Asia-Pacific.[7] Given New Zealand’s heavy economic dependence on China, its positioning was probably understandable.[8]

However, New Zealand’s view has changed recently, with the country formally adopting the Indo-Pacific formulation in February 2020, presumably the result of Wellington’s growing security concerns about China.[9] New Zealand appears to have taken yet another step forward in joining the telephone diplomacy along with other key Indo-Pacific powers.

New Zealand’s path to the Quad mirrors the evolution in Indian thinking. Like New Zealand, India too had traditionally shied away from choosing between the United States and China. But China’s aggressive behaviour in attempting to deny India the strategic space it seeks in the Indo-Pacific, as well as in global platforms such as the Nuclear Suppliers’ Group (NSG) has propelled New Delhi to shift increasingly towards partnerships with others in the Indo-Pacific.

Like others, India had been somewhat uncomfortable with the Quad because of the perception that it was a containment effort against China. But it appears now, in light of recent developments, to be fully invested.

All of this is a big advance for the Quad. Initially labelled the Quadrilateral Security Dialogue (QSD), the Quad made a comeback in November 2017 when officials from the foreign ministries of India, Australia, Japan and the US met in Manila on the sidelines of the ASEAN and East Asia Summits to discuss areas of common interest in the regional and global context.[10] This was the first time that the officials from these countries met after the initial efforts to form the Quad fell apart a decade back.

According to the MEA’s press release, discussions focused on the

“converging vision and values for promotion of peace, stability and prosperity in an increasingly inter-connected region that they share with each other and with other partners.”[11]

Subsequent meetings amongst officials in 2018[12] and 2019[13] have concentrated on similar concerns. In a sign of further progress and political commitment, in 2019 Quad meetings were elevated to the foreign minister level.[14]

These institutional developments indicate that the concerns that gave rise to the formation of the original Quad in 2006-07, and its revival in 2017, not only remain relevant but have deepened.

The strategic consequences of China’s rise, its aggressive military posturing and the tendency to use threat of force have become more prominent in the Indo-Pacific. If the Quad’s progress has been somewhat hesitating, the reason is not hard to find: most countries in the region have significant economic exposure to China. This dependence constrained their capacity to participate in a mechanism which the Chinese government has expressly opposed.[15]

But as China’s behavior has become increasingly assertive, many governments' strategic calculus have begun to change. The very fact that there are more countries over the last year endorsing the Indo-Pacific concept is an indicator of things to come. ASEAN’s adoption of an Outlook on the Indo-Pacific in 2019, following previous reticence to explicitly use the Indo-Pacific formulation, is a telling example.[16]

The slow but steady institutionalisation of the Quad suggests that its future expansion is a real possibility.

Efforts to coordinate responses to COVID-19 by the Quad-Plus countries may be a means to expand the original formulation at a pace that would be comfortable to potential new members and without eliciting a Chinese rebuke. It would be hypocritical for China to oppose countries collaborating on COVID-19 when it has itself made precisely such calls.[17] But such cooperation
also sets the stage for further Quad dialogue on other problems these countries face, potentially including security problems.

Indeed, a Quad-Plus expansion makes sense for a number of reasons. One is the common security concern these countries share regarding China’s behaviours. Each have faced Chinese pressure plays in recent years, and harbor concerns regarding China’smilitaryand political expansion into areas they consider their ‘neighbourhood’. Additionally, none are in a position to effectively challenge China on a bilateral basis, making minilateral cooperation with like minded partners a better approach.

Together, these factors provide a pragmatic path to greater security cooperation via a Quad-Plus arrangement in future years. Expanding the Quad is not going to be easy, and will bring with it challenges of divergent concerns and burden sharing problems. But there is clearly an impetus for Quad expansion that will begin to find expression in coming months.

https://www.orfonline.org/research/towards-a-quad-plus-arrangement-65674/
Trump's quad plus is just like Obama's TPP deal. The purpose is to make more factories leave CN and use VN as manufacturing hub for the bloc ( quad, TPP).

Trump seem admit that cancelling TPP is the biggest mistake( making hundred thousands US ppl die due to lack of PPE, thats would not happen if US PPE factories moved to VN due to TPP deal), so Trump has to use Quad plus to replace TPP deal.

When TPP or Quad plus kick in, more factories will leave CN ( to VN) making more million Cnese lost jobs.
 
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I doubt India will join any global "military" alliances especially the one including the US. It might be an mechanism for yearly exercises, taking joint decisions on world politics, trade, joint intelligence sharing, even some joint defence products. But military? Even SCO started as a kinda military org. Where it is now.
 
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Trump's quad plus is just like Obama's TPP deal. The purpose is to make more factories leave CN and use VN as manufacturing hub for the bloc ( quad, TPP).

Trump seem admit that cancelling TPP is the biggest mistake( making hundred thousands US ppl die due to lack of PPE, thats would not happen if US PPE factories moved to VN due to TPP deal), so Trump has to use Quad plus to replace TPP deal.

When TPP or Quad plus kick in, more factories will leave CN ( to VN) making more million Cnese lost jobs.
Everything is now in progress. China will find itself in a very difficult situations in the years to come. So just relax and watch.:-)
 
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Everything is now in progress. China will find itself in a very difficult situations in the years to come. So just relax and watch.:-)
True, ID govt should not miss the chance to join Quad plus ( or TPP if Joe bidden win the election) to become another manufacturing hub for the bloc.

Recently, many VN products got Zero tax when exporting to US. Trump seriously wanna replace all made in CN's products ASAP.
 
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Quad?? Quad-Plus??? LMAO...
So you mean this Quad:
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And Quad-Plus?
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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

BTW, I want to know what drive those aboriginal indonesians mad these days? Anyone knows the answer pls tell me? since I just come back recently...

Clever imagery.

But as the role of JMSDF and IN increase, the less of a "dog" they are. With a greater role comes a greater capacity to put at stake in negotiations with the US, so a bigger voice.

As long as the PRC keeps claim on the 9 dash line, claim on Taiwan, and claim on the Senkaku islands, then the JMSDF will sail with the US.

Of the three new ones, ROK is unfortunately would likely through history-politics in the middle of joint-training. Vietnam would be a nice addition though. New Zealand would be a plus as well.
 
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Clever imagery.

But as the role of JMSDF and IN increase, the less of a "dog" they are. With a greater role comes a greater capacity to put at stake in negotiations with the US, so a bigger voice.

As long as the PRC keeps claim on the 9 dash line, claim on Taiwan, and claim on the Senkaku islands, then the JMSDF will sail with the US.

Of the three new ones, ROK is unfortunately would likely through history-politics in the middle of joint-training. Vietnam would be a nice addition though. New Zealand would be a plus as well.
VN is always be the manufacturing hub in TPP deal or in Quad plus.

As u can see, Samsung factories in VN havent closed even 1 day during the pademic.
 
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