Opinion: Providing Firepower to Palestinian Resistance

[BRAVO_]

many members in this thread are thinking emotionally rather than rationality, every muslim want to see the end of Palestinian crises and their miseries but pakistan should work together with other muslim countries to deal with crises, single handedly attacking israel could look simple to many forum members but it would be very difficult to handle the aftermath, because western countries will make sure to set a example out of it and in our case we have many fault lines within

 

[Azadkashmir]

combine forces of all muslim countries to move to remove imf world bank and return to sunna money but printing your own currency debt free is gud enuff and barter international. cut out jew bankers. it be downfall of the western jew empire.

 

[jamal18]

The best way forward is for Hamas to disarm, renounce violence and accept Israel's right to existence. This is how they will gain international sympathy and hopefully this will pressurize Israel to scale its operations back.

The Palestinian leadership has only itself to blame for this BTW. They were offered peace, not once but five times and quiet generous terms by the Israelis. Guess what, the Palestinian leadership rejected it every time. Now bear the consequences for your decisions. They certainly won't get the same terms offered before, but again, something is better then nothing.

Palestinians renounce violence? Where have you been, this crisis was caused by the Israelis using violence, the Palestinians simply responded. If they disarm then international pressure will make Israel behave? Well it hasn't worked for the last 70 years.

Ever heard of the Oslo accord? All Arabs accept Israel's right to exist. It was the Israelis who didn't fulfill their part of the deal. If they did, you would see an independent Palestine now. I see you're parroting the western media version of events. Did you read the last peace deal? The Palestinians were being given less than the Apache Indians.

 

[notorious_eagle]

If they disarm then international pressure will make Israel behave? Well it hasn't worked for the last 70 years.

That's the only option they have. They possibly cannot hope to win the fight against the Israelis or inflict enough damage for the Israelis to reconsider their approach. The only offensive weapons Hamas had, Rockets and Tunnels have been largely neutralized by the Israelis. There is literally nothing in the Palestinian tool kit that they can use to pressure the Israelis for a settlement. There best bet is to disarm and hope there is enough international pressure on the Israelis to force a settlement.

Ever heard of the Oslo accord? All Arabs accept Israel's right to exist. It was the Israelis who didn't fulfill their part of the deal. If they did, you would see an independent Palestine now.

What world are you living in? It were the Palestinians who killed the Oslo Accords, not the Israelis. While i agree the terms were harsh on the Palestinians, but that was the best they could have gotten at that time. Guess what, the terms Israelis will offer now would be even harsher. Here go read this up, that should refresh your memory:

Who killed the Oslo Accords?

Failure of Palestinian leadership to read political realities and Israel’s culture of impunity ended Oslo long ago.

www.aljazeera.com

I see you're parroting the western media version of events.

And you're acting stubborn with a massive ego like the Palestinians had, and look where they landed. Its important to read the reality on the ground. The Arabs have largely abandoned Palestine, they are in the process of normalizing diplomatic relations with Israel. They are largely becoming irrelevant only due to their stubbornness and not realizing what reality looks like, just like you, so by all means, keep crying.

The Palestinians were being given less than the Apache Indians.

Its better then what they have now or what they will have in the future. So by all means, don't disarm but don't cry as the Israelis pound them with absolute impunity. Only a fool fights a battle they know they can't win.

 

[Sayfullah]

The best way forward is for Hamas to disarm, renounce violence and accept Israel's right to existence. This is how they will gain international sympathy and hopefully this will pressurize Israel to scale its operations back.

The Palestinian leadership has only itself to blame for this BTW. They were offered peace, not once but five times and quiet generous terms by the Israelis. Guess what, the Palestinian leadership rejected it every time. Now bear the consequences for your decisions. They certainly won't get the same terms offered before, but again, something is better then nothing.

You serious right now? You want them to accept Israel and disarm while Israel is attacking our first qibla masjid al aqsa?
Hope you have this same excuse on the day of judgment when you answer to Allah SWT.
Doesn’t matter what weapons Israelis have we have Allah SWT on our side and those who fight for truth will always get victory in sha Allah. Hamas and Palestinian resistance groups last hope against israel all the other shameless Muslim leaders sold out you want our last hope to be disarmed too?
Also doesn’t matter who broke what agreement israel illegally occupies Palestine no peace with occupiers Israelis have no right over any inch ofPalestine.

 

[VCheng]

You serious right now? You want them to accept Israel and disarm while Israel is attacking our first qibla masjid al aqsa?
Hope you have this same excuse on the day of judgment when you answer to Allah SWT.
Doesn’t matter what weapons Israelis have we have Allah SWT on our side and those who fight for truth will always get victory in sha Allah. Hamas and Palestinian resistance groups last hope against israel all the other shameless Muslim leaders sold out you want our last hope to be disarmed too?
Also doesn’t matter who broke what agreement israel illegally occupies Palestine no peace with occupiers Israelis have no right over any inch ofPalestine.

What ruling mandates the we must control the first qibla that we no longer use as a qibla?

 

[Sayfullah]

If Pakistan doesn’t help Palestinian resistance groups right now than we should change our name to republic of Pakistan remove the Islamic and never said Pakistan ka matlab kya, La Illaha Illal Allah and give up on Kashmir too. No reason for us to call our self a Islamic republic or try to advocate for Kashmiris if we can’t help Palestinian resistance groups and can’t defend our first qibla masjid al aqsa.
it’s a shame we’re the only Muslim nation with nukes and we can’t even threaten Israel which attacked al aqsa.
we should worry about how we’ll have to reply to Allah SWT.
No one cares about economy or fatf this is a matter of our first qibla masjid al aqsa the third most holiest site inIslam!

What ruling mandates the we must control the first qibla that we no longer use as a qibla?

Still is the third holiest site in Islam still is very important to us still is one of the most blessed places on earth.

What ruling mandates the we must control the first qibla that we no longer use as a qibla?

The significance of al aqsa has been mentioned in the Quran and Hadith. That’s more then enough for us to die defending al aqsa

 

[Mav3rick]

It's time Pakistani establishment and government grows balls and show guts and demand Egypt and Jordan to give us route to supply Palestinians with weapons with which they can unleash hell on Israel. It's very clear that Israel will use every chance to attack us through use of our neighbor India. It's time to return the favor and it's time to defend Qibla e Awwal.

Pakistan needs to equip the resistance with cruise missiles and other weapons and also help them improve their rockets and their speeds. Plus provide them with latest Anti Tank and other weapons. We have to face ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW have some shame. I wonder with which face we are going to face ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW

I totally agree, when Israel can arm the Indian state, why can't we arm the Palestinians with means to protect themselves; not just weapons but we must also train them so that they are able to protect themselves.

We cannot give them SAM as we are neither self reliant nor able to target all Israeli Aircraft with SAM's (especially the F-35's). However, we must provide the Palestinian Government with the means to be able to attack the airfields from where the Jets take off to target Palestinian civilians. Further, we should provide the Palestinian Government with small arms such as AK-47's, RPG's (especially those that can target and take down Israeli Armour), mines, IED knowhow, urban warfare training etc.

For every Palestinian killed, there should be atleast 1 Israeli Soldier killed; for every Palestinian house demolished, there should be atleast 1 Israeli Tank/Military outpost destroyed. And for escalations, the Palestinians should be able to target Israeli civilians with impunity whenever Palestinian civilians are targeted!!!!

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

If Pakistan doesn’t help Palestinian resistance groups right now than we should change our name to republic of Pakistan remove the Islamic and never said Pakistan ka matlab kya, La Illaha Illal Allah and give up on Kashmir too. No reason for us to call our self a Islamic republic or try to advocate for Kashmiris if we can’t help Palestinian resistance groups and can’t defend our first qibla masjid al aqsa.
it’s a shame we’re the only Muslim nation with nukes and we can’t even threaten Israel which attacked al aqsa.
we should worry about how we’ll have to reply to Allah SWT.
No one cares about economy or fatf this is a matter of our first qibla masjid al aqsa the third most holiest site inIslam!


Still is the third holiest site in Islam still is very important to us still is one of the most blessed places on earth.

The significance of al aqsa has been mentioned in the Quran and Hadith. That’s more then enough for us to die defending al aqsa

If we are to help the Palestinians then can we AT LEAST do it discreetly.

 

[Mav3rick]

Pakistan is Islamic Republic of Pakistan. How about you read Pakistan full name over and over again.

You are expecting too much from a name; ask yourself how Muslim we really are, how many of us really follow Islam and the instructions of the Holy Quran and the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)? We are bad, bad humans let alone bad Muslims!

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

That's the only option they have. They possibly cannot hope to win the fight against the Israelis or inflict enough damage for the Israelis to reconsider their approach. The only offensive weapons Hamas had, Rockets and Tunnels have been largely neutralized by the Israelis. There is literally nothing in the Palestinian tool kit that they can use to pressure the Israelis for a settlement. There best bet is to disarm and hope there is enough international pressure on the Israelis to force a settlement.



What world are you living in? It were the Palestinians who killed the Oslo Accords, not the Israelis. While i agree the terms were harsh on the Palestinians, but that was the best they could have gotten at that time. Guess what, the terms Israelis will offer now would be even harsher. Here go read this up, that should refresh your memory:

Who killed the Oslo Accords?

Failure of Palestinian leadership to read political realities and Israel’s culture of impunity ended Oslo long ago.

www.aljazeera.com

And you're acting stubborn with a massive ego like the Palestinians had, and look where they landed. Its important to read the reality on the ground. The Arabs have largely abandoned Palestine, they are in the process of normalizing diplomatic relations with Israel. They are largely becoming irrelevant only due to their stubbornness and not realizing what reality looks like, just like you, so by all means, keep crying.



Its better then what they have now or what they will have in the future. So by all means, don't disarm but don't cry as the Israelis pound them with absolute impunity. Only a fool fights a battle they know they can't win.

If the Palestinians disarm unilaterally, then their fate will be EXACTLY the same as that of the Bosnian Muslims at the hands of the Serbs.

 

[VCheng]

Still is the third holiest site in Islam still is very important to us still is one of the most blessed places on earth.

Yes, it is important. Yes, it most blessed. But where is the requirement that we must rule over it?

The significance of al aqsa has been mentioned in the Quran and Hadith. That’s more then enough for us to die defending al aqsa

Yes, it is significant as mentioned. But where is the requirement that we must rule over it?

 

[BATMAN]

If Israel help indian with arms we should help palestian

If Iran help India with intelligence on Pakistan defense and handover Pakistani centrifuge and missile making blue prints than what shall Pakistan do?

Exactly Poor Plaestinians will suffer the most.

Of course, i doubt any one on this earth would expect IDF to ignore 1000's of missiles being fired upon them.
They are the same evil minds who planned to take out Mecca.

Houthis fire ballistic missile toward Mecca – DW – 10/28/2016

Yemen's Houthi Shiite rebels have fired a ballistic missile toward Mecca. It would be the insurgents' deepest strike yet into the kingdom as the country's stalemate civil war drags on.

www.dw.com

 

[BATMAN]

Some slow and benign ways to help the Palestinian cause maybe...
1)Private fundings and donations.
2)Armed Volunteers.
3)Providing Technical know-how of weaponry.
4)Providing ample raw materials and chemicals for prolonged warfare.
5) Dedicated SM teams for propaganda.
6) Rallies to support and convince regimes in their own countries.
7)Boycott products of Israel.
8)Regular protests outside Israeli missions.
9)Maybe HARASS Israeli interests Worldwide.
10) Wake up the head of the Islamic Army, General Raheel Shareef!

Palestine is the biggest winner of Arab aid and this has been going on from decades.
You think you are better than Rahil Sharif... and rest of what you wrote is already undertaken by IRGC with support of puppies in Pakistan, which is nothing but crime and more.

 

[Sayfullah]

Yes, it is important. Yes, it most blessed. But where is the requirement that we must rule over it?



Yes, it is significant as mentioned. But where is the requirement that we must rule over it?

You want anti Islam zionists to rule al aqsa and quds the city which Umar RA and Salahudeen Ayubi freed for us?
It’s gonna be in Muslim hands again one day ISA AS will kill Dajjal, jews fake messiah, there