OPINION: India is waging the wrong war and its bad for Europe

[Zarvan]

India is trying to lock horns but only issue is India has broken horns and China gas ever growing ones.

 

[KeyBORED Warrior]

Lets face it , a European professor with book knowledge, probably never been to China or India, is imparting wisdom to the countries without knowing the ground realities.
Even trolls on this site would have more indepth knowledge than him. His analysis was mostly shallow. Just a regurgitation of well known bullet points.

Lets wait for an article where he speaks highly of you guys then see if you still persist with your opinion of his 'shallow analysis'.

India is trying to lock horns but only issue is India has broken horns and China gas ever growing ones.

Who needs horns when you're spitting fire (Dragon )

 

[Dark1]

Lets wait for an article where he speaks highly of you guys then see if you still persist with your opinion of his 'shallow analysis'.



Who needs horns when you're spitting fire (Dragon )

I am sure you have a opinion of your own on the quality of his article ? Lets hear it rather than focusing on me.

 

[Dustom999]

Everyone is a expert now.
The reality of India is that in the present boundary conflict, the central government requistioned 12000 labourers to complete the border roads.
But the state Government, ruled by a opposition party, stopped the labourers from leaving.
India has become overly federalized and it effects efficiency everywhere.

Whoever fed you that load of crap. Opposition ruled State government preventing labourers! Wow.
Are there not many states governed by Modis party BJP, are those states so developed that they do not have labourers.
Moreover if one is really really serious , wouldn't one command army & paramilitary to get together with Border road organisation and get the roads build.
Are you telling me if a war breaks out, forces will have excuse that they couldn't find labour because state was ruled by opposition.
I don't know what are you guys high on these days. Apparently Modi has become bigger than country itself, to defend his incompetence people will conjure up all kinds of silly logics

 

[KeyBORED Warrior]

I am sure you have a opinion of your own on the quality of his article ? Lets hear it rather than focusing on me.

My opinion is simple. India has lost the plot but it'll take time for you guys to recover from the shock. The west is fast losing faith in india. China means business and there's nothing the Americans/Europeans can do about it.

 

[Dark1]

Whoever fed you that load of crap. Opposition ruled State government preventing labourers! Wow.
Are there not many states governed by Modis party BJP, are those states so developed that they do not have labourers.
Moreover if one is really really serious , wouldn't one command army & paramilitary to get together with Border road organisation and get the roads build.
Are you telling me if a war breaks out, forces will have excuse that they couldn't find labour because state was ruled by opposition.
I don't know what are you guys high on these days. Apparently Modi has become bigger than country itself, to defend his incompetence people will conjure up all kinds of silly logics

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.time...r-ladakh-project/amp_articleshow/76146193.cms
"Jharkhand cancels approval, won’t let BRO hire workers for Ladakh project"

This was a week back.
Resolved now as soon as other states started offering their labourers.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.time...000-road-workers/amp_articleshow/76270023.cms

 

[SD 10]

The tone is such that he wishes that India was able to compete, almost like a lament. I am not sure what the fear that is not also a part of India, in fact from many angles India is a far more terrible country to support than china. At least China is a meritocracy, diligently picking the best people for the role including the leadership, far more democratic than the theocracy that rules India, and is now a idealogy akin to the facists of Europe, both in their master race and hegemony views.

irony is hindus can never be master race!!!

 

[Dustom999]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.time...r-ladakh-project/amp_articleshow/76146193.cms
"Jharkhand cancels approval, won’t let BRO hire workers for Ladakh project"

This was a week back.
Resolved now as soon as other states started offering their labourers.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.time...000-road-workers/amp_articleshow/76270023.cms

As you said central government wanted 12000 labourer, Jharkhand denied permission to hold recruitment drive because of Covid-19.
Did you bring the opposition party angle just to hide the incompetence of government? Just because one recruitment drive got cancelled ( for reasons of covid spread), is BRO totally out of manpower? Did BRO or other agency officially request anyone/ any other state to provide manpower because roads in laddak is getting delayed ( allegedly) ,
Isn't national importance angle here just being used to target one state government just because its if opposition party.
Central government behaving like a thug is the reason that federalism is under stress these days. Term it national security and make anyone bow down to you, thats not how federation works.

 

[Dark1]

As you said central government wanted 12000 labourer, Jharkhand denied permission to hold recruitment drive because of Covid-19.
Did you bring the opposition party angle just to hide the incompetence of government? Just because one recruitment drive got cancelled ( for reasons of covid spread), is BRO totally out of manpower? Did BRO or other agency officially request anyone/ any other state to provide manpower because roads in laddak is getting delayed ( allegedly) ,
Isn't national importance angle here just being used to target one state government just because its if opposition party.
Central government behaving like a thug is the reason that federalism is under stress these days. Term it national security and make anyone bow down to you, thats not how federation works.

Atleast read the articles. You sound like..
The 12000 are not cancelled just unnecessarily delayed. When jharkhand government demurred, chattisgarh government immediately offered labourers.
Now jharkhand Government has taken a u turn and the Corona virus is no longer valid ?
Agreement has been signed now for the labour supply between the BRO & jharkhand government.

 

[LeGenD]

Thread moved to appropriate section.

 

[Dustom999]

Atleast read the articles. You sound like..
The 12000 are not cancelled just unnecessarily delayed. When jharkhand government demurred, chattisgarh government immediately offered labourers.
Now jharkhand Government has taken a u turn and the Corona virus is no longer valid ?
Agreement has been signed now for the labour supply between the BRO & jharkhand government.

I sure will read the article when you provide answers to few key questions!
1. Does the article suggests that jharkhand canceled the recruitment drive because its governed by opposition or you added that bit on your own?
2. Is BRO totally reliant on jharkhand labour for ladakh roads or could the road work be started without them too?

 

[rott]

India is waging the wrong war and that's bad for Europe
By JONATHAN HOLSLAG

BRUSSELS, 10. JUN, 07:11
China and India are locking horns: literally.

Border guards got involved in a scuffle in recent weeks and threw stones at each other. Fighter planes and helicopters were then dispatched to the border.

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  In the race for power between the two Asian giants, China is winning

When two nuclear powers fly into each other's heads, it is always serious, especially since they waged a brief border war in 1962.

But as India reigns over a protracted dispute over some stretches of a sparsely-populated border area, China is quietly winning the battle that really matters, the battle for prosperity and power. And that has major consequences for Europe.

This is immediately noticeable in the border region itself. In recent years, China has built, at lightning speed, modern infrastructure in Tibet. Last year alone, 2,000km of road, 150km of railway, and more than 100 bridges and tunnels were built.

Until a few years ago, places like Nyingchi, Shigatze, and Ngari were a meeting place for shepherds, yaks, and some traders.

Today they are large cities with an airport. Naturally, this civil infrastructure is also militarily relevant, in order to keep unrest among the Tibetans under control and to keep an eye on India.

President Xi Jinping summarised it as follows: "To govern the country, it is necessary to govern the borders, and to govern the borders one must first stabilise Tibet." China has succeeded in this.

However, things are more difficult on the Indian side. The 73 new roads that had to be built along the border have been delayed for 10 years.

The difference between the neat new cities in Tibet, with their rows of brand new apartments, artificial football pitches, and wide avenues on the one hand, and the Indian cities on the other hand is enormous.

That is not surprising. Although Tibet is one of the poorest areas in China, Indian people are on average three times poorer.

India is trying to bridge the gap. Prime minister Narendra Modi has accelerated building military power along the border. Just like during last year's Kashmir crisis, he showed his muscles.

But Indian troops are facing shortages. The 17th Mountain Corps, responsible for scaring China, has insufficient troops, artillery, helicopters and ammunition.

Plans to establish an additional corps were stowed away. While China has dozens of armed drones flying over Tibet, India has hardly any. China's official defence budget is already five times greater than India's today.

China is winning
China is also rapidly gaining influence in and around the entire Indian Ocean. Jawaharlal Nehru, the political father of modern-day India, once argued that whoever dominates the Indian Ocean determines first the future of maritime trade and then also the future of India itself.

Chinese shipping companies have become dominant players in the Indian Ocean. Chinese fishermen are active throughout the region. A handful of ports are controlled by China.

Several years ago, a Chinese investor bought a small island in the Maldives, Feydhoo, near the southern tip of India. Chinese dredgers made the island four times bigger, and the Chinese navy is permanently there.

In the race for power between the two Asian giants, China is winning.

Where economic production between China and India was more or less equal in 1990, the Chinese economy is now five times larger.

Although the world had high hopes for the economic reforms introduced by current prime minister Modi, the actual economic growth in India has been slower than the one in China during the past two years.

Last year, China still attracted three times more European investors.

That's the reason why, for the time being, India has benefited little from the trade war between Beijing and Washington. And this year again, European, Japanese and American investors are planning more projects in China.

It is doubtful that India will be able to respond to this change in the balance of power. Modi himself seems to realise that.

Europeans and Americans might be good at promising cooperation, but their companies are more easily deterred by corruption and instability in India than by Chinese authoritarianism.

While its soldiers flexed their muscles, India quietly accepted two major credit lines from the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank and the BRICS Bank, two institutions that have China as their main lender.

Modi has also not yet restricted the operations of the Chinese telephone company Huawei, despite American pressure.

India's relative weakness has immense consequences for Europe.

If India would be able to welcome as many investments as China, the balance of power in Eurasia would be much more in equilibrium, and China's growing influence would not be the threat it is today.

But as long as European companies continue to choose the certainty of the Chinese dictatorship over the volatility of India's fragile democracy, that is not going to change soon.

AUTHOR BIO
Jonathan Holslag teaches international politics at the Free University of Brussels.

DISCLAIMER
The views expressed in this opinion piece are the author's, not those of EUobserver

Good post bro. The author made a lot of sense.

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

Tum logo ki Bharat Mata to ek number ki randi hai. Even her previous client, Uncle Sam, does not want to anything to do with her. The Chinese f***d her doggy style and she didn't even get any payment in return. Be ready for more such humiliations of your Mata, LOL.

Heights of delusions! Or did I miss anything? Who fought the Soviet-Afghan war? Who fought USA's WOT? Not Bharat. So how can you tell that Uncle Sam is Bharat's client? And who has received CPEC loans from China? Not Bharat. So how can you tell that China f****d Bharat?

- PRTP GWD

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Both strategically placed to be inserted in one opening only.

hahahaha. Fantastic!

 

[Stannis Baratheon]

That'd be counterproductive imo. They want balance of power. Europe is too expensive and old to cater to manufacturing on a global scale. They need cheap but dependable labor and China provides that.

You have an entire continent right next to Europe where China buys a lot of its raw materials from. Africa is not only resource rich but also can offer much cheaper labour.