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OPINION - Galwan valley incident..a huge disappointment for pakistan

@Vikki

This thread has OPINION orientation. It should be highlighted as such.

I have fixed the title.
 
The chinese are great at lulling you into a false sense of security and then beating ten bells of crap out of u...mark my words this is the beginning.

Unless India changes strategic direction and embraces the CHina it is on the route to a whole lot of pain
 
Interesting argument and logic going on by Gangadaishis here:

Hmmmm let me get this straight: if someone puts his finger inside your 'private parts' (read accordingly) and you successfully able to get 99.8% of that finger out of yourself but 0.2% still hangs in there; so that is a victory for you? lols

On the other hand, the so called '99.8% Kashmir' which magically you guys have won; you might want to check the proper distribution who got 'what' percentage and since 'when' (read 1948).

Cheers!
COLORFUL.

I see what you did there...

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Many pakistanis on PDF were hoping there would be a war between india and china and they could use this opportunity to take kashmir.
Some of them even went to the extent of saying china wouldnt stop until they occupy ladakh and some were of the opinion that china would force modi to revoke the cancellation of article 370.
I was saying all along that there would be no war and both the countries would solve this amicably...because mature nations wont spoil their economies for some piece of barren land
But what surprised even people like me is chinese retreating...that wasnt something i expected...of course india retreated too but chinese were in a stronger position...it would have been interesting to see how things unfolded had china stood its ground.
Anyway , educated people like me who reads different international websites knows it is neither chinas victory nor indias.
But every indian( even the educated ones) thanks to indian media has now started believing china lost this battle thanks to modi jis veertha...this entire episode has suddenly skyrocketed the image of Modi again...this guy knows very well how to turn adverity into advantage.

We are capable of delivering any message we want to the public, whether sweet or sour, true of fake. Do you understand what I'm saying?

-Amit Shah
 
When is india avenging abhinandan,kuobushan yadav or ajmal kasab? :rofl::rofl:
Abhinandan - for what treating with hospitality and letting him go the next day with fanfare?

Kulbhushan Yadav - May be you forget you haven't still hanged him. You were forbidden to do so. Lol

Kasab - You know answer to that. If you are accusations are true, we have taken revenge many times over already. Lol.
 
Many pakistanis on PDF were hoping there would be a war between india and china and they could use this opportunity to take kashmir.
Some of them even went to the extent of saying china wouldnt stop until they occupy ladakh and some were of the opinion that china would force modi to revoke the cancellation of article 370.
I was saying all along that there would be no war and both the countries would solve this amicably...because mature nations wont spoil their economies for some piece of barren land
But what surprised even people like me is chinese retreating...that wasnt something i expected...of course india retreated too but chinese were in a stronger position...it would have been interesting to see how things unfolded had china stood its ground.
Anyway , educated people like me who reads different international websites knows it is neither chinas victory nor indias.
But every indian( even the educated ones) thanks to indian media has now started believing china lost this battle thanks to modi jis veertha...this entire episode has suddenly skyrocketed the image of Modi again...this guy knows very well how to turn adverity into advantage.
Few questions with my Indian fellows:
1) where is the Indian Gov official statement, Media is a very weak source to prove all this legitimacy
2) Where are the Satellite images confirm that China is not into Indian claim territory?
3) why the buffer zone(offer by Indian to china :-) craziest and wildest sanghis offer) created between two forces, Isn't china into Indian areas? Why both forces going back from the buffer zone, isn't china suppose to move back, It is more surprising for us that either you Indians are a fool or your Gov are making you guys fools, Why Indian forces are stepping back from their own areas?
4) China moves back, but how far? (China Two-step move forward into Indian territory and now one step back in same Indian territory , is this call Indian Victory?) The New Buffer zone is formulated on Indian captured land By china and as per your victory slogan china move back but he is still in Indian claim territories.
5) In the Buffer Zone, why India have no right anymore in Buffer Zone? Wow crazy, right? No power in my own area.
This statement from china looks simple, but disengagement of both forces means china was so many KM inside of Indian territories, and this statement proves that china still inside India unless India showed satellite images. https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1193236.shtml
technically PP-14, PP-15, PP-16, PP-17, and PP-17A used to be an Indian patrolling area and now become a buffer zone. So question with Indian fellow, which war you win with China so far claiming in Indian Media?
What is the benefit of Pakistan in India-China Skishirim? These are the point India almost agreed with china; rest issue will settle slowly
  • China made an explicit agreement with India, don't be a road blocker in CPEC and here India shows commitment with china. Is not good enough for Pakistan's victory over India stance
  • China made India on the table that no more Indian infrastructure on LAC and LOC to use against the CPEC project.
  • China also clear on point with India's no demographic change after the removal of article 370 from Kashimir. No more Change status of the majority into a minority and not allowing any mining in those areas.
On this Indian article, we can say it has a valid point but will take time
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...e-in-place-of-troops/articleshow/76821975.cms

This china new claim is like an Elm street of a nightmare for Indian who are enjoying for time being of their victory in Indian Media

Is Indian gov a facilitator of china's occupation in the Indian area? Why don't those agreements come to the public, which is Indian Gov accepted with china?
I think after reading it, we make you pretty much disappointment on your victory and gives you food of thoughts that your Gov did a bad with your nation secretly.
 
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of course india retreated too but chinese were in a stronger position

This is where it shows how stupid indians are. Chinese already captured alot of land, going back 2 km doznt change much but India going back 2 km????
It takes special kind of morons and idiots to believe india won or even remaoned a tie. The chinese must be laughing their *** off at the sheer stupidity of the indian people. You find no shame in the fact that indian army had to retreat 2km from their posts that were established after chinese incursions, ur forced to go back 2km while being in ur own territory. U ppl really are stupid.
 
"This is illustrated in the Galwan Valley, where India has pulled back from its own territory and created a “buffer zone” on its side of the Line of Actual Control (LAC). "

@Vikki

Brahma Chalaney . Indian defence analyst in Hindustan Times.
 
What is disappointment for Pakistan is achievement for Indians. Right?
 
Forget about opinion of pakistani PDF members. but pakistan establishment behaved very nicely with India during entire stand-up. No provocative statements or open support to china. Indian gov should remember this and maintain good relationship with pakistan. Long term it will help India to deal with china well.

Biggest loser in this entire episode is china. They are neither able to accept the strategic land gain nor accept the causality. Everyone knows that, it is impossible to gain strategic land without casualties.

For India, it would have been much better, if this happened before the loss of 20+ army man. It is very loud and clear for Indian people who is real enemy for India. Oneway it is good for India in long term.
 
40+ Indian soldiers got butchered with sticks and China confiscated land. Somehow Pakistan is supposed to be disappointed? LOL Stupid Indians trying to save face. These Indians live in a different dimension.

This is only the beginning LOL Pakistan and China are going to corner India.
 
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