OPEN LETTER TO Mr. Recep Tayyip Erdogan from Zoroastrian Kurds

[Deliorman]

It’s funny how many people actually reply to that troll and extended his meaningless thread to almost 6 pages.

ME Section is really turned into a total mess.

 

[padamchen]

You claim to have Turkish friends, well then im sure you also know you wont make friends with Turks when you have eyes on their soil.
Turkey has no problem with Kurds, you just have to check out who is the biggest trading partner of KRG but when you support/turn a blind eye Turkeys enemies, take actions triggering unrest in Turkey then there will be consequences which KRG found out this year.

Can you point to ONE post where I've even alluded to Zoroastrians (Kurd or Iranian or Indian) having eyes on your soil?

In fact on more than one occasion I have said and even conceded that Turkey was too big and stable and a military power for anything like that to even be possible. Same as Iran.

But you will also concede that there is really no Iraq or Syria left anymore. The whole region is run over by violence from all sides.

An independent Kurdistan is only a matter of declaration and recognition.

It is already a military reality.

And a very small percentage of the Kurds there are really Zoroastrian. Most are still Muslim.

A Zoroastrian homeland therefore is currently just a pipedream.

A Kurd homeland is not.

Hope that explains.

Cheers, Doc

 

[xenon54 out]

In fact on more than one occasion I have said and even conceded that Turkey was too big and stable and a military power for anything like that to even be possible. Same as Iran.

This sentence alone says you dont just because Turkey is too strong, if one day things change then you will, this is why Turkey must eliminate threats such as this.
Turks made a similar experince in WWI where some stabbed from back as soon as the opportunity came.

 

[padamchen]

This sentence alone says you dont just because Turkey is too strong, if one day things change then you will, this is why Turkey must eliminate threats such as this.

What do you mean by "you".

1) I am ethnically Persian. Not Kurd.

2) The Kurds fighting in Iraq and Syria are not the same as the Kurds in Iran and Turkey.

Cheers, Doc

 

[xenon54 out]

1) I am ethnically Persian. Not Kurd.

Anyone supporting actions threatening Turkeys integrity, race, ethinicity and religion doesnt matter.

2) The Kurds fighting in Iraq and Syria are not the same as the Kurds in Iran and Turkey.

They are the same with different name.

 

[dBSPL]

I just wonder, If Zoroastrians decided to establish an organization and put its name as - the party of workers and peasants- Then this organization kill thousands of civilians without separating the baby, woman, teacher, peasant in all of India. Until Zoroastrian Öcalan is captured as a terrorist head, he has done more than a hundred massacres and intimidate the people. ( just a little list in turkish but u can translate : https://eksisozluk.com/pkknin-gerceklestirdigi-toplu-katliamlar--2260157 )

Then, even in the regions where they are very small minorities, if they claim to be dominated by a dream map. Of course It transforms it into a perception operation with the support of the internationally anti-Indian states.

Also if they have fully retained the drug trade and border trafficking in India,

Moreover, if Zionism(Arz-ıMevud) is used to this organization as a spearhead for the total destruction of India and its three neighboring states,

What would the Indian state and army do? What would the general public of India think?

The fire is burning down where it fell. We know the pain we have suffered, and this will create some results for KCK-PKK-YPG-PEJAK etc.. Not Kurds... I think you should stop taking the issue unilaterally.

Never underestimate neither Iran nor Turkey's state tradition. Your some relatives have been in holly alliance with some imperials that has been here just for 80-100 years.

But what most of Kurds in Iran and Turkey who have the honor and glory ,did not fall into this game. They will clean the traitors in them. Just wait and see. Not by splitting more,We will defeat the big enemy together. And ofc the elephants are not responsible for the grass to be crushed in the process.

 

[padamchen]

Anyone supporting actions threatening Turkeys integrity, race, ethinicity and religion doesnt matter.

Those fighting you are your own Kurds. Persians are not.

Therefore I will protest you lumping me with them.

Or even Zoroastrian Kurds of KRG with them.

They are the same with different name.

Ethnically yes. Not politically. We have already established that they are all fighting each other as well. Other posts on another thread with @T-123456 ...

Cheers, Doc

 

[xenon54 out]

Those fighting you are your own Kurds. Persians are not.

Therefore I will protest you lumping me with them.

Or even Zoroastrian Kurds of KRG with them.

I am not generalizing whole population what im saying is: pkk, ygp, ypj, pjak, kck or whatever they are called are working for the same goal in different lands, they are the same with different name and the cooperation of them between eachother is a proven fact!

Ethnically yes. Not politically. We have already established that they are all fighting each other as well. Other posts on another thread with @T-123456 ...

Lol tell me when one of the mentioned above fought eachother, you are living in a fantasy world.

 

[padamchen]

Never underestimate neither Iran nor Turkey's state tradition. Your some relatives have been in holly alliance with some imperials that has been here just for 80-100 years.

Please explain this statement to me?

We have done nothing till very recently. When the Kurds CAME TO US - NOT the other way around.

Have you guys wondered something.

The Kurds have been fighting for nearly 40 years now.

WHAT has changed suddenly over the past 5-10 years for them to start reverting to Zoroastrianism?

And why should Indian Zoroastrians not support ancestral cousins reverting to their ancestral faith?

Would Muslims have done any less in our place? Would Jews?

Cheers, Doc

Lol tell me when one of the mentioned above fought eachother, you are living in a fantasy world.

@T-123456

Both of you are Turks.

With diametrically opposite views!

Cheers, Doc

 

[xenon54 out]

@T-123456

Both of you are Turks.

With diametrically opposite views!

Cheers, Doc

If you say so...

 

[padamchen]

If you say so...

I'm tagging him for his rebuttal man. Why intolerant of a different view?

He also lives in the same country as you. Or rather, both originate from the same country.

Cheers, Doc

 

[xenon54 out]

I'm tagging him for his rebuttal man. Why intolerant of a different view?

Where is the intolerance here?

 

[padamchen]

Where is the intolerance here?

I thought you were disagreeing by me calling him into the discussion.

Forget it.

Summary is, we (Parsi Zoroastrians) are the keepers of the ancient faith.

ANYONE from the old Zoroastrian bloodlines who want to revert are welcome to our support in any way.

Many of us believe that this "could" possibly culminate into a Zoroastrian homeland eventually.

Till such time as (and if and when) Iran reverts. Specifically, Persian Iranians.

This is not to say that there would be a wholesale exodus from India.

But eventually we will see how it develops. The lure of a homeland is strong for a community displaced for 1300 years.

Will it happen. What form and size will it be. Will it be landlocked or have sustainable access to the outside world. The military bit is a given. As is the funding and ready supply of young men and women. Will it eventually merge with Iran. Will Iran become Zoroastrian, or will there be another small pocket of revival there. These are all questions no one has answers to today.

All we know is that from approximately half a million Zoroastrians for the past 2-3 centuries (mainly the last 2) we have suddenly gotten a 100% growth in less than 2 years.

Its not a small start for a very small group of worshipers. And as long as they are not troubling anyone and doing their own thing, I do not see why the countries around them should have a problem. But then, this is not an ideal world, and if Erdogan as head of state can have and hold such views, then I can imagine it will not be an easy road.

But then neither was leaving Persia and the past 1300 years.

Cheers, Doc

 

[kartal1]

What makes you think Indian Zoroastrians are not already fighting alongside the Kurds?

Simple question.

This in spite of the fact that EACH born Zoroastrian today is a priceless receptacle of our unbroken ancient heritage that needs to be passed on.

The "teaching" your Erdogan is talking about. He's not off the mark at all.

There is a regular flow of priests and trainee navars and mobeds between India and Iraq.

And each priest we train here, trains 10 there. Each Navjote we perform here or in the West, is repeated 100 times as the Sudreh Pooshi ceremony for new reverts there.

Cheers, Doc



Cool.

Cheers, Doc

I am encouraging more and more to come. This world needs some population regulation. If you have the same ideas for India I think more Indian friends will be happy to send your kinds to the Turkish-Iraqi border. As I said we know very well how to welcome such guests... WITH FIRE

 

[padamchen]

I am encouraging more and more to come. This world needs some population regulation. If you have the same ideas for India I think more Indian friends will be happy to send your kinds to the Turkish-Iraqi border. As I said we know very well how to welcome such guests... WITH FIRE

Looking at the responses of most of you here, I can see it has become a national narrative to hate Zoroastrians.

I see a lot of similarities in Erdogan and Turkish society polarizing with anti minority hatred and the same happening here in India with Modi.

Cheers, Doc