On foreign policy, Imran Khan, establishment were not on one-page: Elahi

[Wood]

No, they need to follow orders of civilian govt

Glad to see that you want establishment to follow orders from Shahbaz

 

[Bilal9]

Don't want to hijack the thread, but in hindsight it is pretty clear that the 'establishment' was responsible for the breakup of Pakistan. The day Ayub Khan unseated Suhrawardy was the day this whole 'situation' started. If you disagree, let's start a new thread. Otherwise ignore me and move on.

 

[Norwegian]

Glad to see that you want establishment to follow orders from Shahbaz

Shahbaz is imported civilian by Bajwa so no

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Foreign policy is prerogative of Prime Minister & elected cabinet, if establishment wants to do foreign policy, then impose martial law but hybrid government is not acceptable.


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This is a fake quote

Need to get rid of establishment role in politics altogether

This anti-revolutionary has deceit written on his sunken face.

Additionally, any national institution other than the government should have NO authority on foreign policy. The electorates’ representatives by definition have a right to be wrong on any matter and should be guided by our Islamic Principles. Unlike pseudo-patriotic architects of the current crises, the government (on paper) is directly accountable to the populace.

Proposing anything less than a complete upheaval of this rotten system is futile and only works against the national interest

Establishment (certain elements) on US behest removed IK fullstop. Blacksheeps are in the establishment, it is a fact. How can they afford to send their kids to study in expensive western institutions and afford to buy land/properties in the west. "Kutte choron se mile hoye hay".

In major world powers foreign policy is a collective decision of different Institutions. Not just a president..
In Pakistan s case we are a security state...our case is much more dependent on its survival before any devolution.

 

[SD 10]

Don't want to hijack the thread, but in hindsight it is pretty clear that the 'establishment' was responsible for the breakup of Pakistan. The day Ayub Khan unseated Suhrawardy was the day this whole 'situation' started. If you disagree, let's start a new thread. Otherwise ignore me and move on.

no anyone who read history knows this. there is nothing to be disagree about here!

 

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

This is a fake quote





In major world powers foreign policy is a collective decision of different Institutions. Not just a president..
In Pakistan s case we are a security state...our case is much more dependent on its survival before any devolution.

This quote is present on Gov.pk websites.

After independence on 14th August 1947, Quaid-e-Azam asked Pakistan army to liberate Azad Kashmir, the British Commander in Chief of PA, Douglas Gracey at that time refused to fight. Then tribesmen (Qabaili) and Kashmir mujahideen were requested, and they liberated the Azad Kashmir that is part of Pakistan now.

So this quote is pretty much authentic and genuine and aligns with the history

 

[Olympus81]

We have seen the mess Pakistan is in today thanks to establishment constant role in politics and foreign policy.

Martial law or hybrid regimes have been a complete failure.

Complete/0/null involvement of establishment (and their cohorts) in politics.

Nothing less is acceptable.

If Imran Khan makes a deal with the establishment, I will be his biggest opponent.

 

[TNT]

This scumbag is also an establishment pittu, IK should kick him away as well. The only solution to all the problems of Pakistan is to completely eliminate the role of establishment. These low IQ donkeys need to be put in their place.

 

[El Sidd]

Doesn't take an einstein to determine why a politician hell bent on polarisation inside the country wouldn't export it externally.