Obama's speech in the UN: Against the Palestinian Initiative for a UN Seat

[Meengla]

That clearly prove what are the real intentions of the Palestinians and the Arabs - a Palestinian state in the 1948 borders. Why you continue with this charade and deny it???

As I said, the current government of Israel is supporting the establishment of a Palestinian state, this is its official policy. But you constantly do not let reality to confuse you.

Official policy in contradiction with the Manifesto? Ummm. Have your heard of forked-tongue? Now, we are not talking about a 'failed' 'backward' 'fanatic' 'terrorist' like Hamas here. We are talking about a party whose Prime Minister is in power and got--gasp!--29 standing ovations by the legislature of the mightiest power in the world! One one think they would at least speak in one voice?
Nah, you don't convince. I don't think Netanyahu wants a Pal state unless it becomes a crippled Bantustan.

PS. Again, building settlements in strategic, choice land as an answer to 'terrorism' is an excuse. Thiefs need to lie better.

 

[lem34]

Your support in a barbaric Anti-Semite terrorist as Ahmed Yassin is disgusting. You and your kind are the real threat for humanity!

Reap what you sow, you and your zionist pals create fertile ground for the responses you get

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Ok sir. We will see who disappear from face of earth.

What kind of comment is that. if you are wiped how will you see?

 

[*Awan*]

Your lies should be add to the dictionary under the entry Anti-Semitism.

which lies exactly you are talking about?


dear when people say there are two ideological nations on earth then this means some thing.
most of people don't even know what exactly zionism is.
so my dear things are identified from it "antis"
moral of the story
you are cancer to earth and we are its cure

 

[Zabaniyah]

I don't think so. India is not like any small country which can be used so easily. Today also, We have
better relation with many countries than US. US don't have any foot print in India. We already faced war 4 times, So 5th time also possible. US has issue with China, so they want to make good relation with us and not use. Good relation with US is good. No problem.

Off-topic:
Having good relations with all countries is optimal.

The reality is that the US are trying to get that very footing in India. The Cold War ended over 20 years ago. And things changed ever since, especially after 9/11.

Otherwise, they would not have sold you those P-8Is or tried to sell F-16s or F-18s. American equipment nearly always have certain strings attached. Surprising considering India used to be Cold War foe.

Senior American politicians regardless of party are scared $hit of China. Sure, they would never imply this directly, but that is done just to look good. They are afraid and paranoid of The Dragon.

They'll use every lance they can possibly get against China. And usually, they try to wage wars through proxies, never directly. India is a big country, and a vast one at that. It is a feasible proxy for the US against China.

Sure, India and the US are not currently allies, but they do hold interests of strategic value - especially with regards to China. And besides China doesn't necessarily see India as an enemy, but just cautious.

India is a member of BRICS after all, and an observer state of The Shanghai Cooperation Council (SCO), along with Pakistan. I hope those two expand and strengthen and that my country gets a piece of that.

But the US is trying and trying hard to bring India on its side against China. It is all about the broad picture in perspective of the US.

A Sino-Indo War is Uncle Sam's wet dream. I hope that never happens.

Irregardless, India must not allow American interests to dictate South Asian affairs. Otherwise, we'll all lose. And it'll make the Russians and the Chinese unhappy, and despite the 'issues' we have in the neighborhood, I have complete faith in those two.

Note: You see how different the issues of the Middle East and South Asia are?

 

[RockyX]

What kind of comment is that. if you are wiped how will you see?

Don't dream too much. Before,You will be wiped out from earth. If you have any doubt, Try your Nuke against us and we will reply in no time. 1 attack and their won't be any Pakistan afterwards and peace will prevail in whole world.

 

[*Awan*]

Your support in a barbaric Anti-Semite terrorist as Ahmed Yassin is disgusting. You and your kind are the real threat for humanity!

the person who fight for his home is anti-semite and terrorist?
or the one who occupied some ones home?

 

[RockyX]

@ Zabanya

I don't think It's possible. I also think it's west wet dream. If there won't be any Indo-China war, then it's good for both countries.

As far as Pakistan, very much possible. But we have to prepare for worst and we doing that only. Every country has right to improve her defence for any kind of possible threat. We are doing because we can afford and not something which is hurting our economy. We only spending some 2%-2.5% on defence of our GDP which 90% countries follow.

 

[nirreich]

Official policy in contradiction with the Manifesto? Ummm. Have your heard of forked-tongue? Now, we are not talking about a 'failed' 'backward' 'fanatic' 'terrorist' like Hamas here. We are talking about a party whose Prime Minister is in power and got--gasp!--29 standing ovations by the legislature of the mightiest power in the world! One one think they would at least speak in one voice?
Nah, you don't convince. I don't think Netanyahu wants a Pal state unless it becomes a crippled Bantustan.

PS. Again, building settlements in strategic, choice land as an answer to 'terrorism' is an excuse. Thiefs need to lie better.

You did not deny all my arguments: all the Arabs wants to eliminate Israel eventually and their so-called concern with the settlements is just a mean to weaken Israel and de-legitimise it. Nothing more, nothing less. So, you are hardly concern about the Palestinians as long as you cannot use them to hurt Israel.

In Israel what is more important is the official government policy and not some election propaganda. Convince the Palesitnians to withdraw from their goal to eliminate Israel with 'the right of return' and to live with it in peace and security and Israel will be happy to help them to establish their own state. Agreed?

 

[Meengla]

The 'Most recommended' Comments in the New York Times. More 'anti Semites'. 'Self Hating Jews'. 'Leftists'. Or may be from the 'Failed States'? Nah, these are average Americans who have long been disgusted with the Congress and now disgusted with the Congress' cowardice in face of the Lobby.

Here is one. This is history unfolding before our eyes. Slowly but surely, the world, even America is awakening. Bravo to the new wave.


Obama Rebuffed as Palestinians Pursue U.N. Seat - Readers' Comments - NYTimes.com

I'm both Jewish and a fervent supporter of Israel but let's get real here.

Obama knows what needs to happen and he's said it as clearly as an American president has or probably ever will - Israel needs to get serious about reaching a deal with the Palestinians along the lines that anyone on either side willing to think clearly knows have already been laid out (and which were just thoughtfully summarized by former prime minister Olmert in this publication).

But Netanyahu and his Republican allies in congress aren't interested in reaching a settlement. They are intersted, as always, in pandering to their right wing supporters. The future of Israel is now in the hands of politicians on both sides who are beholden to some literal interpretation of the Bible by their fanatic supporters. That's the reality of the situation.

To make matters worse, and despite our historic tendency toward bi-partisan foreign policy, the Republicans are doing everything they can to disrupt Obama's efforts by colluding directly with a foreigh head of state.

If you really care about Israel, it's time to speak up. I suggest you seriously consider supporting J-Street!

 

[*Awan*]

You did not deny all my arguments: all the Arabs wants to eliminate Israel eventually and their so-called concern with the settlements is just a mean to weaken Israel and de-legitimise it. Nothing more, nothing less. So, you are hardly concern about the Palestinians as long as you cannot use them to hurt Israel.

In Israel what is more important is the official government policy and not some election propaganda. Convince the Palesitnians to withdraw from their goal to eliminate Israel with 'the right of return' and to live with it in peace and security and Israel will be happy to help them to establish their own state. Agreed?

why you are doing propaganda and misleading the members?

every one want two state solution,and borders will be of 1967

 

[nirreich]

the person who fight for his home is anti-semite and terrorist?
or the one who occupied some ones home?

This terrorist wrote the charter of Hamas and was head of this terror organisation. This charter is equivallent to the Nazi ideology. If this beast is not an Anti-semite, then who is?!

And you glorify this barbaric terrorist who is responsible for the murdering of innocent civilians including babies, women and children.

Shame on you!

 

[lem34]

This terrorist wrote the charter of Hamas and was head of this terror organisation. This charter is equivallent to the Nazi ideology. If this beast is not an Anti-semite, then who is?!

And you glorify this barbaric terrorist who is responsible for the murdering of innocent civilians including babies, women and children.

Shame on you!

killimg of innocent children and women has been perfected by your zionist idf

 

[nirreich]

Reap what you sow, you and your zionist pals create fertile ground for the responses you get

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What kind of comment is that. if you are wiped how will you see?

You Anti-Semites are always the victims, never responsible for anything, always blaming others for you own mistakes and incompetence.

Because of people like you the Muslim world is in its degraded situation and cannot get out of its mad-hole.

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killimg of innocent children and women has been perfected by your zionist idf

When you support barbaric terrorist you lost your ground to blame anyone else in terrorism.

Shame on you!

 

[Meengla]

In Israel what is more important is the official government policy and not some election propaganda. Convince the Palesitnians to withdraw from their goal to eliminate Israel with 'the right of return' and to live with it in peace and security and Israel will be happy to help them to establish their own state. Agreed?

@Nirreich,
What argument to deny? You are just speculating about 'wiping off the map' based on the Hamas position and they too, according to some are offering a 20 year 'Hudna' or even recognition based 1967. Of course you will also completely ignore the Saudi Peace Plan and the Pal. Authority's positions, won't you. You see: You harp on Hamas while you try to downplay the Likud agenda as 'election' posturing. Not convincing.

Also, I think I have mentioned in another topic that the Olmert plan is a good one, as per his NY Times article yesterday. And that does not accept the right of return. It is a no-go and, sad to say, Pals. are going to either be compensated to stay in other countries or go back to the W. Bank once Palestine is established.

Let's build upon the Olmert Plan then. But, looking at the unanimous anger against him in YNET News today, it is a non-starter. You may want to look up what your countrymen think about giving any reasonable concessions to Palestinians.

Bantustan is not acceptable. Get that right. If it was then there would be a Palestine in 2000 in Camp David.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Quite frankly, I am blown away by the fact that the world's biggest proponent of democracy can oppose a tiny nation's dream to become officially recognized as a people of the world, when 83% of its population supports it...

Palestine is an undeniable reality.


it is unfortunate that the aforementioned "proponent" of democracy has now in fact become the world's biggest obstructor of democracy.

George Washington presciently said, "Nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that, in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges towards another an habitual hatred, or an habitual fondness, is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest."

USA's unhealthy and habitual fondness for israel has devolved to the point where they frequently place their interests (or perceived interests of their inept leaders) above their own and declare as enemies of theirs any enemy of israel's. The founding fathers of America (some of the finest men to have ever lived and breathed on earth) would be appalled by the fact that the USA meddles so frequently in the affairs of other nations and obstructs democracy as a matter of daily routine.