NOW NO NEED TO FEAR from Chinese or Pakistani missiles

[graphican]

how did you know that S 400 purchase was a response to Nasr missile ?

May be it is not, but it doesn't make India any safer against Nasr either.

You're yet to have an operational triad.

I am no insider, but tube launched version of Babur was tested several years ago. I like to think its ready than not. There was also some news from PN that Pakistan has completed its tirade. Just out of memory.

 

[aanshu001]

Pakistan has gliding bombs with 180KM range. In order to be safe, India would have to deploy S400 some 200 KM inside the Indian territory. Nasar would start and land within 60KM radius while in order to counter it, S400 would need to travel minimally 140KM and then it would have a chance to neutralize it just before Nasr lands - but if Nasr is targetting something 30-40KM inside Indian territory or if S400 intends to intersept it in the middle of its flight path - S400 would have to cover 170KM. So Nasr has a challange to complete 30-60KM while S400 would have to cover 140-170 Kilometres just to give itself a chance.

So good luck with your calculations.. if S400 are meant to save you from Nasr and its Nuclear Treatment, you are not safe against it. In my humble opinion.

180 KM glide bomb against a system capable of tracking upto 600 KM and shooting upto 400 km good luck and all our Migs, Su MKI, Mirage, will be resting so your plains can come & destroy our sites

1. India had it's own capable satellite spy and navigation system ( not dependent on others)
2. India had superior AWACS platform ( You are free to contradict in favor of Chines system)
3. India had multi layered radar & SAM system and rapidly adding more power
4. India had more number of attack helicopters to support Armed division
5. India had more number of higly mobile MBRL system
6. India had more BVR capable 4.5+ generation fighters with long range missile

why you guys always claim that your systems are going to destroy both numerical & technological superior systems without any casualties, half of the time Pakistani members says Pakistani forces will be in defensive role so it will be in better position but destroying SAM sites is a pure offensive exercise were you need to overcome both IA & IAF systems

 

[krash]

lol seriously against nasr? even if it is placed 150km away from border 80% of u r airforce stations will be covered by it most of u r cities as well will be no fly zone and on mercy of it

Yea it will be, for a total of 10min until it is taken out by the airfoce or the cruise missiles or the short range ballistic missiles or any other stand-off weapon.

Sometimes I wonder what plane of thought do you Indians operate on.

 

[Joseph Goebbels]

Yea it will be, for a total of 10min until it is taken out by the airfoce or the cruise missiles or the short range ballistic missiles or any other stand-off weapon.

Sometimes I wonder what plane of thought do you Indians operate on.

Same one deu to which every time you started a war your ended up pleading UNO/USA & west to save your nation

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

One missile defense system wouldn't defend from all kind of missiles.
Israel's missile defense for example (from upper tier to lowest tier)
exoatmospheric interception system. (Arrow 3)
System against very long range ballistic missiles. (Arrow 2)
System against medium to long range ballistic missiles. (David Sling)(Patriot)
System against low range missiles.(Iron Dome)
Laser system.(Iron Beam)
Most likely the system against medium to long range missiles will serve as a system against various threats such as Aircrafts,UAV's,Cruise missiles and so on.

No expert here but can people stop mentioning the israeli missile defence system. It's true capability hasn't been tested by even a 0.0001% capable missile. Shooting down a garden shed toy made by Hamas is not a missile. Even I can bring them down by throwing a cricket ball at them.

 

[DavidSling]

No expert here but can people stop mentioning the israeli missile defence system. It's true capability hasn't been tested by even a 0.0001% capable missile. Shooting down a garden shed toy made by Hamas is not a missile. Even I can bring them down by throwing a cricket ball at them.

Most of the missile defense systems in the world wasn't tested in real life scenarios.
Israelies were the first to shoot low range missiles, before then, this capability wasn't around.
I can insure u tho, that those missile defense systems passed harsh field trials before went into service, and continue to improve with every day passing.
The latest test of Arrow 3 missile interception, was against Sparrow target missile, which is designed to simulate an improved Shahab 3 missile. The test was a success in 100% according to Israeli and American officials.
David Sling and Arrow 2 are also JV between Israel and USA and keep geting improvements with the latest technology.
Trophy APS was tested again vide wariety of rockets and missiles before it entered service and still get improvements (rumor has it that the next version will include anti kinetic countermeasure).
So u see, the ability to Intercept even low cost low range missiles, is a breakthro, Iron dome keeps gettin upgrades, and
the new upgrades designed to expand and improve performance capabilities of the system.
Besides, even uncostly missile can cause high number of casualties and Iron Dome manage to shoot Hamas made rockets and Iranian made rockets that could get to jerusalem and tel aviv.
Trophy managed to take down Kornet missiles and RPG 29.

 

[knight11]

Yea it will be, for a total of 10min until it is taken out by the airfoce or the cruise missiles or the short range ballistic missiles or any other stand-off weapon.

With 18 F-16 block 52 you area going to achieve that. Hats off.

Sometimes I wonder what plane of thought do you Indians operate on.

Our intention are clear, we don't bother any friendship just wanted all the mess not to cross our border. We are happy here and each day developing.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Most of the missile defense systems in the world wasn't tested in real life scenarios.
Israelies were the first to shoot low range missiles, before then, this capability wasn't around.
I can insure u tho, that those missile defense systems passed harsh field trials before went into service, and continue to improve with every day passing.
The latest test of Arrow 3 missile interception, was against Sparrow target missile, which is designed to simulate an improved Shahab 3 missile. The test was a success in 100% according to Israeli and American officials.
David Sling and Arrow 2 are also JV between Israel and USA and keep geting improvements with the latest technology.
Trophy APS was tested again vide wariety of rockets and missiles before it entered service and still get improvements (rumor has it that the next version will include anti kinetic countermeasure).
So u see, the ability to Intercept even low cost low range missiles, is a breakthro, Iron dome keeps gettin upgrades, and
the new upgrades designed to expand and improve performance capabilities of the system.
Besides, even uncostly missile can cause high number of casualties and Iron Dome manage to shoot Hamas made rockets and Iranian made rockets that could get to jerusalem and tel aviv.
Trophy managed to take down Kornet missiles and RPG 29.

Yes, but you still can only validate it's REAL success against a competent determined enemy who has counter measures that you are not necessarily aware. If the americans and israelis had a truely effective missile shield against Iranian missiles then be sure the americans and israelis would do what they have wanted for the last 15 years. Launch a massive combined invasion/assault of Iran.

Like I said Hamas garden made flying toys ARE NOT missiles.

 

[DavidSling]

Yes, but you still can only validate it's REAL success against a competent determined enemy who has counter measures that you are not necessarily aware. If the americans and israelis had a truely effective missile shield against Iranian missiles then be sure the americans and israelis would do what they have wanted for the last 15 years. Launch a massive combined invasion/assault of Iran.

Like I said Hamas garden made flying toys ARE NOT missiles.

Lol, U didn't read my comment at all eh
Firstly, Hamas has iranian made missiles and weaponry including russian made.
Secondly, the systems were tested against wide variety of threats and scenarios.
Thirdly,the consequences of Iranian nuclear bomb are deterrant for any nation to impose sanctions against Iran (political power), and by that take their agenda further including massive armament of Hamas and Hizballah but not just. it will also cause a nuclear arms race all over the middle east (the first will be the gulf states). their are many ways to deliver nuclear bombs and there's no garuantee u'll be able to intercept it even if it's possible (no system offers 100% interception rate)
Moreover, EVEN cheap rockets are HARD to intercept (u can't softkill the missile since it has no sensors whatsoever, it has to be hardkill), if it was that easy everyone would have countermeasures against them.
I'll give u a task - try to shoot down a lot of mortar shells effectively (a low cost weapon system which can cause high amount of casualties)

 

[Joseph Goebbels]

Yes, but you still can only validate it's REAL success against a competent determined enemy who has counter measures that you are not necessarily aware. If the americans and israelis had a truely effective missile shield against Iranian missiles then be sure the americans and israelis would do what they have wanted for the last 15 years. Launch a massive combined invasion/assault of Iran.

Like I said Hamas garden made flying toys ARE NOT missiles.

since you are so spectical about Israeli systems why not help friends in Gaza and west bank supply them with babur and NASR trust me all arab nations after your success will fall in line behind pakistan for the final war between believers and non believers

 

[xyxmt]

3 against Pak and only 2 against China. looks like they are afraid of us.
But what about "andar ghus k marengey" ???

the whole world knows their entire defense system is against Pakistan, they are no match for China

 

[Joseph Goebbels]

the whole world knows their entire defense system is against Pakistan, they are no match for China

point is why should we go for TOT for TAT with china with respect to matching them with weapon to weapon we have enof to keep them at bay with your nation its a different game altogether .

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Lol, U didn't read my comment at all eh
Firstly, Hamas has iranian made missiles and weaponry including russian made.
Secondly, the systems were tested against wide variety of threats and scenarios.
Thirdly,the consequences of Iranian nuclear bomb are deterrant for any nation to impose sanctions against Iran (political power), and by that take their agenda further including massive armament of Hamas and Hizballah but not just. it will also cause a nuclear arms race all over the middle east (the first will be the gulf states). their are many ways to deliver nuclear bombs and there's no garuantee u'll be able to intercept it even if it's possible (no system offers 100% interception rate)
Moreover, EVEN cheap rockets are HARD to intercept, if it was that easy everyone would have them.
I'll give u a task - try to shoot down a lot of mortar shell effectively (a low cost weapon system which can cause high amount of casualties)

Okay. Point taken. But you do know that those Iranian and Russian made missiles are obsolete barely 1950s and 1960s technology that even ordinary military powers stopped using in 1988. Thing about the Iranian military is that they would never give any of their top of the line produced military equipment to anyone even their own allies. By the way, Hamas and Iran don't particularly like eachother. Iran supplies Hezbollah with weaponary not Hamas.

 

[PakSword]

One thing is implied in the OP. India was fearing Pakistan and China before buying S400 system. But hey, before S400, they were saying that Pakistani missiles are s h i t at most and yet they are deploying 3 of the 5 systems on Western border! Were they lying before that Pakistani missiles are nothing or they are lying now?

 

[Ghazwa e Hind]

How many Babur missile do Pakistan license manufactured and when will Nasr is going to be inducted in Pakistani army active service. How many shaheen and gauri do pakistan have to have deterance against india.

aray lala jee! yeh to ab aap ghussa kar gaye hain!