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Charlie Hebdo has done it again--with a cartoon of Prophet Mohammad--and this time in its latest edition. The cartoon has a weeping Prophet in white holding a sign reading 'Je Suis Charlie', and above him are the words 'Tout Est Pardone' meaning All is forgiven. Muslim extremists last week attacked the Paris offices of Charlie Hebdo and gunned down 10 of its staff, including 5 cartoonists, for 'disrespecting the Prophet'.

At one level the cartoon is a befitting reply to the extremist forces that cannot have a laugh and muzzle secular voices. What other way than a cartoon of a weeping Prophet to condemn the attack! As Luz, the cartoonist, explained to Libération's Isabelle Hanne, "With this cover, we wanted to show that at any given moment, we have the right to do anything, to redo anything, and to use our characters the way we want to. Mohammed has become a character, in spite of himself, a character in the news, because there are people who speak on his behalf." Yet, at another level, the cartoon --when Islamophobia is on the rise--is also saying, 'It's my freedom, little sympathies for you'.

The shootings have initiated a whole lot of discussion on freedom of expression--and whether there is a limit to this freedom. The answer to it depends on which side of the debate you stand for. Do we refrain from hurting Muslim sentiments since many (wrongly) believe that it is a taboo to portray the Prophet? Or, we exercise our right and defy this rigid interpretation propagated by extremists? Interestingly, the Quran forbids idol worship but not pictorial representations. Illustrations of the Prophet can be dated back to the 14th century in Iran and Turkey. Christiane Gruber, in a recent Newsweek analysis, says, "...the decree that comes closest to articulating this type of ban was published online in 2001 by the Taliban, as they set out to destroy the Buddhas of Bamiyan."

Richard Malka, a Charlie Hebdo lawyer, was quoted in the Telegraph as saying, "We mock ourselves, politicians, religions, it's a state of mind you need to have. The Charlie state of mind is the right to blaspheme." This is in line with what Britai's deputy PM Nick Clegg said about the 'right to offend' on LBC Radio.

The argument is not so much whether one has the right to free speech--it is a non-negotiable freedom. It is whether that right can be used in a more amiable manner.

Do we have to offend a minority community, which has not yet integrated with the mainstream, for the sins of a few extremists? In the recent years, the integration of Muslims into the mainstream has become one of the thorniest issues in the immigration debate in Europe. The bans on burqas in France or minarets in Switzerland or the criticism against Muslim councils in Germany are pointers to this uneasy debate.

Added to this existing unease is a growing Islamophobia, which attacks like the one in Paris increase by several notches. It is not a coincidence that a Pegida (Patriotic Europeans against the Islamisation of the West, a political group that is against Muslim immigration) rally called in Dresden, Germany, on Monday saw a record turnout of 25,000 people, some of whom were carrying banners that read: "Asylum seekers go home!"

Thus, it is not the theological unease that prompts one to question the cartoon(s) but this societal reality of a group being seen as what Edward Said has called 'the Other'. The unease with the Charlie Hebdo cartoons should be seen from this vantage.

On a larger context, this schism reflects Europe's unease with the 'outsider'. If from the Renaissance till up to about the mid of the 20th century Europe pointed its finger at the Jew, today it is pointed at the Muslim. Anti-Semitism was so prevalent in Europe that the cunning moneylender Shylock, who demands his pound of flesh in William Shakespeare's The Merchant of Venice, or Voltaire's anti-Semitic statements were not aberrations.

By the 19th century, because of the growth of nationalism, anti-Semitism had taken a racial colour. The works of theorists like Arthur de Gobineau (An essay on the inequality of human races) greatly contributed to this approach. The Jews, when compared to 'superior' Europeans, were seen as 'inferior' beings. Today, a similar streak of indifference is seen towards immigrants from North Africa and Eastern Europe--many of whom are Muslims.

Instances like these underline the importance of secular and democratic institutions. European leaders cannot let their minorities 'survive' on the margins of society if they really want them to integrate and prosper. The rise of the Right in many countries in Europe, from Britain to Germany to France, does not inspire hope about a seamless integration. A majority, by nature, is not a threat to a minority, but it becomes one when a group within that majority starts to impose its narrow, bigoted views on the minority. And that's not a cartoon. -

Nothing funny in Europe: Charlie Hebdo's 'right' to offend Muslims - Hindustan Times

@jamahir @SarthakGanguly @US_statedept_retired @Markus
 
these cartoons have suddenly become the new crusades...

i too condemn the paris killings but in all this crying why has the western bloc forgotten killings many more times than in paris... and the below killings were because of western invasions or support to criminal groups...

korea war... 1950-53... north korean dead about 4 million... invasion.
iraq... 1990-2010 approx... 2 million dead and 4 million refugees... invasion.
libya... 2011... 200,000+ dead... invasion.
syria... 2011-2015... 180,000+ dead... invasion by western proxies.
russia... 1991-2014... hundreds or thousands... invasion by western proxies.
china... date i don't know... many... bombings and killings by western proxies.
venezuela... 2011... dozens approx... acts and invasions by western proxies.
pakistan... approx 2004-2014... thousands... acts and invasions by western proxies.

where are western leaders marching for the above dead... where is the outrage...
 
these cartoons have suddenly become the new crusades...

i too condemn the paris killings but in all this crying why has the western bloc forgotten killings many more times than in paris... and the below killings were because of western invasions or support to criminal groups...

korea war... 1950-53... north korean dead about 4 million... invasion.
iraq... 1990-2010 approx... 2 million dead and 4 million refugees... invasion.
libya... 2011... 200,000+ dead... invasion.
syria... 2011-2015... 180,000+ dead... invasion by western proxies.
russia... 1991-2014... hundreds or thousands... invasion by western proxies.
china... date i don't know... many... bombings and killings by western proxies.
venezuela... 2011... dozens approx... acts and invasions by western proxies.
pakistan... approx 2004-2014... thousands... acts and invasions by western proxies.

where are western leaders marching for the above dead... where is the outrage...
unrelated
 
very related... i only point to the hypocrisy.

please do look at this simple and wonderful post of syrian-lion... ( Syrian Civil War (Graphic Photos/Vid Not Allowed) | Page 242 ).
it's the same people who they support against Syria who came back and stabbed them now.

I get the point about all the mistakes and blunders of NATO and 'the west' in the middle east etc but this Charlie Hebdo massacre was an act of terror in a civilized society.. satirical social commentary and aggressive foreign policy are 2 very different things.

people should stop with the strawmen already, there is no justification for murder and extremist Islam is the problem.
 
Please watch MEMRITV and then tell me the insults are all one way. And yes I know the channel has an agenda but the material they provide is real.
 
it's the same people who they support against Syria who came back and stabbed them now.

I get the point about all the mistakes and blunders of NATO and 'the west' in the middle east etc but this Charlie Hebdo massacre was an act of terror in a civilized society.. satirical social commentary and aggressive foreign policy are 2 very different things.

people should stop with the strawmen already, there is no justification for murder and extremist Islam is the problem.

islam is the sanest and most socialistic of all old religions... it is some modern muslims who misinterpret islam as being all about prayers and rituals.
 
Read the New Issue of Charlie Hebdo in English - The Daily Beast

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Philippe Wojazer/Reuters


Tracy McNicoll


Read the New Issue of Charlie Hebdo in English
No one is safe from France’s cartoonists: An Islamic cleric worries Charlie Hebdo's cartoonist martyrs will steal his virgins and the pope calls women ‘cocksuckers.’
Before dawn in Paris on Wednesday morning, and all over France, newsstands were overwhelmed with demand for the latest edition ofCharlie Hebdo, the survivors’ issue. It sold out within minutes. The presses are still whirring as the magazine tries to produce five million copies for delivery, up from the normal print run of 60,000, but there’s no need to wait, The Daily Beast has snagged a copy for you.

Under extraordinary circumstances, the surviving staff ofCharlie Hebdohas produced an issue that is perfectly true to type: defiant, uncompromising, funny, sometimes bittersweet, but with nary a hint of the melodramatic. None of the murdered staffers are left out and, just as they would have liked, no target for ridicule is spared.
 
islam is the sanest and most socialistic of all old religions... it is some modern muslims who misinterpret islam as being all about prayers and rituals.
one could make the same argument about any religion and how it's misinterpreted now etc

I'm with the people who have a problem with US policies in the ME and across the world but I won't pigeonhole 2 different issues here.. I don't care about the alleged misinterpretation, extremist Islam is the enemy of humanity.. fact.
 
one could make the same argument about any religion and how it's misinterpreted now etc

how is hinduism socialistic??

i don't want this thread to become a war but i only ask a valid question.

no mongols stood adopting hinduism, and that is a fact of history.
 
First steps towards international syndication perhaps?

Read the New Issue of Charlie Hebdo in English - The Daily Beast

1421252114730.cached.jpg

Philippe Wojazer/Reuters


Tracy McNicoll


Read the New Issue of Charlie Hebdo in English
No one is safe from France’s cartoonists: An Islamic cleric worries Charlie Hebdo's cartoonist martyrs will steal his virgins and the pope calls women ‘cocksuckers.’
Before dawn in Paris on Wednesday morning, and all over France, newsstands were overwhelmed with demand for the latest edition ofCharlie Hebdo, the survivors’ issue. It sold out within minutes. The presses are still whirring as the magazine tries to produce five million copies for delivery, up from the normal print run of 60,000, but there’s no need to wait, The Daily Beast has snagged a copy for you.

Under extraordinary circumstances, the surviving staff ofCharlie Hebdohas produced an issue that is perfectly true to type: defiant, uncompromising, funny, sometimes bittersweet, but with nary a hint of the melodramatic. None of the murdered staffers are left out and, just as they would have liked, no target for ridicule is spared.
 
Charlie Hebdo has done it again--with a cartoon of Prophet Mohammad--and this time in its latest edition. The cartoon has a weeping Prophet in white holding a sign reading 'Je Suis Charlie', and above him are the words 'Tout Est Pardone' meaning All is forgiven. Muslim extremists last week attacked the Paris offices of Charlie Hebdo and gunned down 10 of its staff, including 5 cartoonists, for 'disrespecting the Prophet'.

At one level the cartoon is a befitting reply to the extremist forces that cannot have a laugh and muzzle secular voices. What other way than a cartoon of a weeping Prophet to condemn the attack! As Luz, the cartoonist, explained to Libération's Isabelle Hanne, "With this cover, we wanted to show that at any given moment, we have the right to do anything, to redo anything, and to use our characters the way we want to. Mohammed has become a character, in spite of himself, a character in the news, because there are people who speak on his behalf." Yet, at another level, the cartoon --when Islamophobia is on the rise--is also saying, 'It's my freedom, little sympathies for you'.

The shootings have initiated a whole lot of discussion on freedom of expression--and whether there is a limit to this freedom. The answer to it depends on which side of the debate you stand for. Do we refrain from hurting Muslim sentiments since many (wrongly) believe that it is a taboo to portray the Prophet? Or, we exercise our right and defy this rigid interpretation propagated by extremists? Interestingly, the Quran forbids idol worship but not pictorial representations. Illustrations of the Prophet can be dated back to the 14th century in Iran and Turkey. Christiane Gruber, in a recent Newsweek analysis, says, "...the decree that comes closest to articulating this type of ban was published online in 2001 by the Taliban, as they set out to destroy the Buddhas of Bamiyan."

Richard Malka, a Charlie Hebdo lawyer, was quoted in the Telegraph as saying, "We mock ourselves, politicians, religions, it's a state of mind you need to have. The Charlie state of mind is the right to blaspheme." This is in line with what Britai's deputy PM Nick Clegg said about the 'right to offend' on LBC Radio.

The argument is not so much whether one has the right to free speech--it is a non-negotiable freedom. It is whether that right can be used in a more amiable manner.

Do we have to offend a minority community, which has not yet integrated with the mainstream, for the sins of a few extremists? In the recent years, the integration of Muslims into the mainstream has become one of the thorniest issues in the immigration debate in Europe. The bans on burqas in France or minarets in Switzerland or the criticism against Muslim councils in Germany are pointers to this uneasy debate.

Added to this existing unease is a growing Islamophobia, which attacks like the one in Paris increase by several notches. It is not a coincidence that a Pegida (Patriotic Europeans against the Islamisation of the West, a political group that is against Muslim immigration) rally called in Dresden, Germany, on Monday saw a record turnout of 25,000 people, some of whom were carrying banners that read: "Asylum seekers go home!"

Thus, it is not the theological unease that prompts one to question the cartoon(s) but this societal reality of a group being seen as what Edward Said has called 'the Other'. The unease with the Charlie Hebdo cartoons should be seen from this vantage.

On a larger context, this schism reflects Europe's unease with the 'outsider'. If from the Renaissance till up to about the mid of the 20th century Europe pointed its finger at the Jew, today it is pointed at the Muslim. Anti-Semitism was so prevalent in Europe that the cunning moneylender Shylock, who demands his pound of flesh in William Shakespeare's The Merchant of Venice, or Voltaire's anti-Semitic statements were not aberrations.

By the 19th century, because of the growth of nationalism, anti-Semitism had taken a racial colour. The works of theorists like Arthur de Gobineau (An essay on the inequality of human races) greatly contributed to this approach. The Jews, when compared to 'superior' Europeans, were seen as 'inferior' beings. Today, a similar streak of indifference is seen towards immigrants from North Africa and Eastern Europe--many of whom are Muslims.

Instances like these underline the importance of secular and democratic institutions. European leaders cannot let their minorities 'survive' on the margins of society if they really want them to integrate and prosper. The rise of the Right in many countries in Europe, from Britain to Germany to France, does not inspire hope about a seamless integration. A majority, by nature, is not a threat to a minority, but it becomes one when a group within that majority starts to impose its narrow, bigoted views on the minority. And that's not a cartoon. -

Nothing funny in Europe: Charlie Hebdo's 'right' to offend Muslims - Hindustan Times

@jamahir @SarthakGanguly @US_statedept_retired @Markus

Its not the right to offend, but THE RIGHT TO CRITICIZE WHOEVER YOU WANT! And if somebody feels offended by that.... well bad luck...


Ideals of freedom, democracy and secularism will prevail over backwardedness, fundamentalism and sheer ignorance and stupidity!
 
islam is the sanest and most socialistic of all old religions... it is some modern muslims who misinterpret islam as being all about prayers and rituals.
You are wrong on two counts -

a) Islam is probably the newest religion so please don't count it amongst the old religions.

b) how can you call a religion sane, when it is so easy to be misinterpreted/tweaked. When you find the most insane followers of Islam only.

Also if what you are saying is correct then why is history of so called sane religion mostly written in blood.. Its so easy to blame all your fallacies on misinterpretations but the fact is such so called misinterpretations are in existence since the times of Mohammed. So please excuse us if we laugh off your claim of Islam being sanest religion because in all reality it is nothing like that.
 
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